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    bemty

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    Post by bemty Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:05 pm

    ja i ne kacim ove statistickije tekstove na koje nailazim. ali nasla sam da mu je npr neki antropolog razvalio podatke o smrti u 'pre-state societies'. tipa, ubacio je u podatke dva puta isto groblje jer nije znao da se vodi pod dva naziva u literaturi (ali je naveo razlicite brojke jer nije ukacio da se kriterijumi za ukljucivanje u podatke razlikuju)... i tako to.


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    Post by Erős Pista Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:11 pm

    Da, da, toga se sećam. (Kažem ti, opsesivno sam tražio.)

    R. Brian Ferguson, professor of Anthropology at Rutgers University–Newark, has challenged Pinker's archaeological evidence for the frequency of war in prehistoric societies, which he contends "consists of cherry-picked cases with high casualties, clearly unrepresentative of history in general."[26] Whereas "[b]y considering the total archaeological record of prehistoric populations of Europe and the Near East up to the Bronze Age, evidence clearly demonstrates that war began sporadically out of warless condition, and can be seen in varying trajectories in different areas, to develop over time as societies become larger, more sedentary, more complex, more bounded, more hierarchical, and in one critically important region, impacted by an expanding state." Ferguson's examination contradicts Pinker's claim that violence has declined under civilization, indicating the opposite is true.

    AKo se dobro sećam, nešto ga je i Taleb penalio oko statistike, ali tu već nisam mogao da procenim ko je u pravu, a nisam se baš ni udubljivao.


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    Post by bemty Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:41 pm

    hm, ovo sto sam ja videla nije potpisano imenom i prezimenom, i nema taj tekst, tako da evo, cisto da uzivas: http://primarydeposits.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/pinker-and-archaeology.html?m=1


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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:01 pm

    dobar Gutting, sve mu verujem  Pinker pred andjelima bolje prirode - Page 11 4101625831
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:55 pm

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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:58 pm

    Par crtica o DžP Pinker pred andjelima bolje prirode - Page 11 1399639816

    https://twitter.com/kevinbaker/status/977756255337971712?s=19
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:21 pm

    koja je njegova veza sa roganom?
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    Post by bemty Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:28 pm

    https://twitter.com/thosjleeper/status/1002928065872388097


    hocu da embedujem tvit, a ne umem Pinker pred andjelima bolje prirode - Page 11 1949538119

    a carski je!! i tvit nekoliko narednih (u threadu)


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    Post by bela maca Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:42 pm



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    Post by Guest Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:46 pm

    Bokte
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    Post by Guest Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:51 pm

    au koja faca
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    Post by bemty Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:31 pm

    bela maca je definitivno faca, ali kako je embedovala tvit??


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    Post by bela maca Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:04 am

    odeš na strelicu pored dugmeta follow (ili unfollow?), pojavi se "more" kada hoveruješ, klikneš na nju, odeš na embed tweet i kopiraš sadržaj, zatim ga ovde samo pejstuješ


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    Post by bemty Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:17 am

    hvala Pinker pred andjelima bolje prirode - Page 11 3274312807

    mislim uradila sam to, ali u 'preview' modu mi je pokazalo nesto sto nije licilo na ovo tvoje. sad znam da ignorisem preview.


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:12 pm



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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:25 pm

    Bullshit overload



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    Post by bjesomučje Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:49 am

    "... you know it also seems that there's a certain amount of resentment that is driving that as well and that would go along with the status competition because there's anger i suppose if you're a member of an elite group to see that your paradigm let's say isn't leading the charge forward"


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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:02 pm

    Ne znam gde drugo




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    Post by bemty Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm

    yep.


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    Post by Guest Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 am

    Much of what Pinker writes about the humanities would be a comical caricature if it did not represent a
    coherent ideological offensive that is reshaping higher education and research.
    16 Like general systems theory in
    the 1950s or logical positivism in the 1920s, the cognitive sciences are yet another pipe dream of unification
    of the social and the natural sciences, with the humanities now thrown in for good measure. Like these prior
    attempts, they will probably fail, but in the process of reshaping the intellectual and academic landscape, they
    are imposing a new standard in the construction of what counts as knowledge. This standard is based on an
    increasingly seamless integration between cognition and economics that in large part reflects a new social
    organization of knowledge. Under this new regime, data points and factoids gleaned on the internet, evidence
    and visual effects, scientific proof and a TED Talk, and validity and celebrity often risk getting hopelessly
    blurred. There is nothing wrong with “evidence-based” research, which is why Steven Pinker should be held
    to its demanding standards, including the very Kantian one of understanding its limitations (Kant called it the
    “critical” use of reason—something Pinker does not seem to like very much). Not all important questions can
    be answered in such terms. Evidence is not always easy to define, nor is it always quantifiable. Bringing the
    issues of life and death, war and peace, population and poverty, race and inequality into a PowerPoint-like
    narrative of universal and linear human progress that dispenses with the complexities of history and politics is
    meaningless. Suggesting that these complexities must be dispensed with because they prevent us from seeing
    progress is a fraud. Yet, one quickly realizes that Pinker’s Enlightenment is made of plasterboard and that the
    progress that runs through it is one mile wide only because, like Enlightenment Now, it is one inch deep.
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    A remarkable feature of Enlightenment Now is indeed its history without historical agents and without
    power, in which “science,” “reason,” “capitalism” or “industrialism” dispense their benefits to an ungrateful
    mankind. It is not the organized working classes that wrested concessions from capital but “capitalist societies” that spent on welfare; it is not the conquest of social and economic rights but “industrial capitalism”
    that “launched the Great Escape from universal poverty in the 19th century and is rescuing the rest of
    humankind in a Great Convergence in the 21st” (364). The result is a warped vision in which those who do
    not partake in the benefits of progress are simply not seeing things as they should and any politics based on
    them would not be “evidence-based” and thus flawed. In the heydays of Stalinism, such considerations where
    denounced as ‘subjectivism’—and so, it seems, under high neoliberalism. If you are an Alabama mother who
    lost her child because of the social effects of economic and racial inequality in a dysfunctional health care
    system, it may be too bad, but in the great scheme of things you should find solace in the beautiful trade-off
    of which you are the losing end. If you have just lost your home to a foreclosure, you are probably too
    emotional to see that “we” have globally become wealthier. Or could it be that it is because you are irrational
    in the first place that the market—the greatest natural selector of all for Hayek and, it seems, Pinker
    himself—has selected you out? Who knows? And who cares? You cannot stop progress.
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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:39 am

    Au, razbijanje.


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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:39 am

    Even this review is the result of a bias exposed on page 48: “Experiments have shown that a critic who pans a book is perceived as more competent than a critic who praises it.” Having failed to enroll in a debiasing program, I hope the reader will pardon my incapacity to raise above my own cognitive limitations.

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