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    Post by Del Cap Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:08 pm

    BREAKING: EU foreign affairs chief @JosepBorrellF announces that the 27 foreign ministers have agreed a package of €450 million in lethal arms to #Ukraine, plus €50 million for non-lethal supplies like fuel.
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:08 pm

    Kod najveće onlajn ruske banke i druge po veličini po broju izdatih kreditnih kartica prodajni kurs dolara je u jednom trenutku bio 171 (2,2 puta veći od kupovnog!!!), sad je 120.


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    Post by Zus Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

    Filipenko wrote:Meni je jedan od najvecih utisaka koliko Ukrajinci lazu. Rusi bar cute. Ovi su povratili aerodrom, poobarali silne avione (najcesce prepune trupa), unistili stotine tenkova, slomili neprijatelja, ocekuju konacnu pobedu za dan-dva, 13 heroja se mucenickom smrcu oprostilo na usamljenom ostrvu, u Kijevu im nema neprijateljskih vojnika, na zvanicnim kanalima ministarstva odbrane kace video iz igrice kao dokaz da su oborili avion, pomlatili su Cecene i ubili cecenskog komandanta i Kadirovljevog licnog prijatelja itd. itd. Apsolutno im se nista ne moze verovati. Sve sto kazu ispadne suprotno najdalje sutradan. Naravno, pre ili kasnije ce reci i nesto istinito, ali ovoliko ludilo je potpuno neverovatno.
    Pa najbolje bi bilo da govore istinu. Posto nije fer borba (nikada nije) ni izvestavanje slabije strane nece biti takvo
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    Post by MNE Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:17 pm

    Filipenko wrote:Meni je jedan od najvecih utisaka koliko Ukrajinci lazu. Rusi bar cute. Ovi su povratili aerodrom, poobarali silne avione (najcesce prepune trupa), unistili stotine tenkova, slomili neprijatelja, ocekuju konacnu pobedu za dan-dva, 13 heroja se mucenickom smrcu oprostilo na usamljenom ostrvu, u Kijevu im nema neprijateljskih vojnika, na zvanicnim kanalima ministarstva odbrane kace video iz igrice kao dokaz da su oborili avion, pomlatili su Cecene i ubili cecenskog komandanta i Kadirovljevog licnog prijatelja itd. itd. Apsolutno im se nista ne moze verovati. Sve sto kazu ispadne suprotno najdalje sutradan. Naravno, pre ili kasnije ce reci i nesto istinito, ali ovoliko ludilo je potpuno neverovatno.
    zaboravio si i gađanje civilnih ciljeva i raketu koja pogađa zgradu za koju se kasnije ispostavilo da je PVO raketa, jbg tako su ih naučili sa zapada jer time programiraju NPCove koji stavljaju ukrajinske zastave na svoje profilne slike na fb, nego iz tog razloga zapad i dobija medijski rat tako da što bi mijenjali strategiju kad funkcioniše
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:20 pm

    rumbeando wrote:Kod najveće onlajn ruske banke i druge po veličini po broju izdatih kreditnih kartica prodajni kurs dolara je u jednom trenutku bio 171 (2,2 puta veći od kupovnog!!!), sad je 120.


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    Posto su jedan narod, red je da se izjednace sa platama sa Ukrajinom na oko 200 evra.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:22 pm

    Čuj, učili ih tako sa zapada da lažu. Ko je Putina učio da priča o narkomanima i nacistima (ustaśama) sa protivničke strane, i da je Ukrajina lažna država? To je 1/1 naučio od naših devedesetih.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:23 pm

    Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Čuj, učili ih tako sa zapada da lažu. Ko je Putina učio da priča o narkomanima i nacistima (ustaśama) sa protivničke strane, i da je Ukrajina lažna država? To je 1/1 naučio od naših devedesetih.

    Ma to je sovjetska skola
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    Post by MNE Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:24 pm

    ne kažem da su Ukrajinci cvjećke ali mi je prilično očigledno da je ukrajinska kampanja jako sinhronizovana sa zapadnom (što nije ništa čudno obzirom da su saveznici), bukvalno svaka lažna glupost se automatski objavi na skoro svim zapadnim medijskim stanicama, "duh Kijeva" koji je oborio 64 ruska aviona, pomenuta gađana zgrada itd. sve to ide odmah na YT kanale vodećih zapadnih medija, i onda vidiš zombije kako komentarišu vau slava Ukrajini i slično
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:25 pm

    To je sve u ratu za ocekivati
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    Post by MNE Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:25 pm

    inače i mi smo objavljivali skoro isto kao oni kad nas je NATO gađao(srušeno 150 aviona i ostalo), samo što nismo imali taj luksuz da se to objavljuje na zapadnim medijima, jbg
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:26 pm

    Rusi ne objavljuju nista (a inace jesu majstori u laznim vestima) jer hice da drze low profile u svojoj javnosti za sve u ve,i sa ovom "specijalnom operacijom"
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    Post by Zus Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:28 pm

    Doturanje vojne pomoci EU za UKR jeste logicno sada, ali ujedno podriva sanse da se agonija relativno brzo zavrsi nekom podelom, zidom.
    I finansijsko odsecanje sankcijama sto bude imalo veci efekat naterace ludaka da podivlja I uradi neku vecu glupost,
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:30 pm

    Zus wrote:Doturanje vojne pomoci EU za UKR jeste logicno sada, ali ujedno podriva sanse da se agonija relativno brzo zavrsi nekom podelom, zidom.
    I finansijsko odsecanje sankcijama sto bude imalo veci efekat naterace ludaka da podivlja I uradi neku vecu glupost,

    Nece ako rusi izadju na ulice u nekom relevantnom broju. To je osnovna ideja ovih mera.
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    Post by fikret selimbašić Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:32 pm



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    Post by Zus Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:34 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Zus wrote:Doturanje vojne pomoci EU za UKR jeste logicno sada, ali ujedno podriva sanse da se agonija relativno brzo zavrsi nekom podelom, zidom.
    I finansijsko odsecanje sankcijama sto bude imalo veci efekat naterace ludaka da podivlja I uradi neku vecu glupost,

    Nece ako rusi izadju na ulice u nekom relevantnom broju. To je osnovna ideja ovih mera.
    Da to je cilj ali to moze da potraje. Mogu rusi dosta da trpe
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:35 pm

    Moscow braces for market meltdown Monday as new sanctions hit
    Rouble expected to plunge in first day’s trading since Swift ban and other unprecedented measures enforced
    Moscow is bracing for economic panic as markets open on Monday morning, with the value of the rouble expected to plummet after the US and European Union announced unprecedented sanctions over the weekend.
    Those measures targeted the Russian central bank, which has intervened to prop up the value of the rouble following Vladimir Putin’s order to invade Ukraine. They also marked the first time Russian banks have been excluded from the Swift international payments system.
    Top Russian banks such as Sberbank and VTB Bank have assured their customers that they’ll be able to access their rouble deposits and make exchanges into foreign currencies like dollars and euros.
    But the economic turbulence will mark a key moment when the gravity of the crisis in Ukraine hits home for many ordinary Russians.
    “It will be something we have not seen before,” said Sergei Guriev, economics professor at France’s Sciences Po and former European Bank for Reconstruction and Development chief economist.
    Videos circulated on social media of long lines at some Russian ATMs on Sunday morning, although the rush for currency is expected to begin in earnest on Monday as markets open.
    There are already signs that the value of the rouble has tumbled. By Sunday evening, Russia’s Tinkoff Bank was buying dollars for 89 rubles and selling them for 154 roubles, nearly double the price just three weeks ago.
    The sanctioning of Russia’s central bank, which experts called “unprecedented”, could halt or limit interventions to prop up the value of the currency, making it harder to insulate Russians from the economic backlash of the invasion.
    “Sanctioning the central bank is unprecedented,” said Maria Shagina of the Finnish Institute of International Affairs and the Geneva International Sanctions Network. “I think for one of the largest economies in the world – the size matters here. Previously it was only Iran, Venezuela, Syria that were under a maximum pressure campaign.”
    Some details of the sanctions remain unclear, and it is possible that western governments will make exceptions for oil and gas payments.
    But the sanctions on the Russian central bank, which could see a significant portion of its $630bn (£470bn) in reserves frozen in G7 countries, mark a quantum leap in the west’s sanctions campaign over the Russian invasion into Ukraine.
    “There’s a psychological and reputational effect because now everyone just doesn’t want to deal with Russia in general,” said Shagina.
    Elina Ribakova, deputy chief economist of the Institute of International Finance, predicted earlier this week that sanctions on the central bank would have drastic consequences for Russia.
    “Apart from creating a domestic financial and economic crisis in Russia (massive dollarisation and destruction of the domestic financial sector), it will also make trade with Russia so difficult that it will be nearly impossible for some,” she wrote. “Energy and oil prices massively impacted.”
    International financial institutions and other organisations have also started to reduce offices or cut ties with Russia due to the sanctions and reputational risk.
    That has impacted industries far from the banking sector.
    An events planner for a Moscow entertainment firm said simply: “It’s dead.”
    “Everything is being cancelled,” the person said, asking not to be named because their firm organised government events. “I’ve basically written off all of my events ordered by international clients. Those that haven’t been cancelled yet will be soon. All I can count on are government contracts.”
    Companies that sell popular goods also appear to be limiting their exposure to the Russian market. Automakers including Mercedes Benz, Audi, General Motors and Jaguar Land Rover have reportedly halted shipments of goods to Russia.
    Shops selling iPhones and other products have told Russian reporters they were not receiving further shipments, although the reason was not immediately clear.
    On Sunday morning, things still appeared calm in Moscow. Sberbank, Russia’s largest bank, had taken the unusual step of keeping its branches open over the weekend. But several had no queues, with cashpoints stocked with roubles and ample supplies of dollars for sale for around 100 roubles.
    By Sunday evening, Russian state TV hosts were exhorting their listeners to hold the line despite the tough economic times ahead, describing a period of economic isolation and autarky that recalls some of the world’s most trouble pariah states.
    “I know some of you are finding this tough,” said Vladimir Solovyov, a Russian TV host who was sanctioned last week. “We’ll overcome it all, we’ll endure it all. We’ll rebuild our own economy from scratch, an independent banking system, manufacturing and industry. We’ll rely on ourselves.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/27/ukraine-moscow-braces-for-market-meltdown-monday-as-new-sanctions-hit
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    Post by Filipenko Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:35 pm

    https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1498029624273825792?s=21


    The Spectator Index
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    BREAKING: EU states to provide Ukraine with fighter jets



    Sto vise obecavaju Ukrajini, sve sam ubedjeniji da je raspad ukrajinske vojske sve blizi, zato i obecavaju toliko. Sat vremena pre kapitulacije ima da im obecaju 2 nosaca aviona i 10 hiljada tenkova.
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    Post by Mr.Pink Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:39 pm

    Jao brt ovo kad procitam o iou i centralnim bankama ko da citam bitcoin trololo rudare

    Kae bp ce proda 20 posto nekog nefta

    Pa bolje da prodaju nego da im nacionalizuju

    Nista narod to nece osetiti, mozda za par godina


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    Post by rujofil Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:39 pm

    Zus wrote:Doturanje vojne pomoci EU za UKR jeste logicno sada, ali ujedno podriva sanse da se agonija relativno brzo zavrsi nekom podelom, zidom.
    I finansijsko odsecanje sankcijama sto bude imalo veci efekat naterace ludaka da podivlja I uradi neku vecu glupost,
    Ideja USA i jeste sto duza agonija. Tome i ovo slanje buljuka oruzja sad.
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:40 pm

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    Post by Mr.Pink Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:42 pm

    Pa u srbiju s300 samo sto nije stigo, i tako od 99


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:42 pm

    Filipenko wrote:https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1498029624273825792?s=21


    The Spectator Index
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    BREAKING: EU states to provide Ukraine with fighter jets



    Sto vise obecavaju Ukrajini, sve sam ubedjeniji da je raspad ukrajinske vojske sve blizi, zato i obecavaju toliko. Sat vremena pre kapitulacije ima da im obecaju 2 nosaca aviona i 10 hiljada tenkova.

    Raspad moze da se desi u dva dana ako Rusi upotrebe svu vatrenu moc koju su dovukli. Ali ce posle toga i ukrajinskom Rusu tesko da objasne da su "jedan narod".
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:47 pm

    rujofil wrote:
    Zus wrote:Doturanje vojne pomoci EU za UKR jeste logicno sada, ali ujedno podriva sanse da se agonija relativno brzo zavrsi nekom podelom, zidom.
    I finansijsko odsecanje sankcijama sto bude imalo veci efekat naterace ludaka da podivlja I uradi neku vecu glupost,
    Ideja USA i jeste sto duza agonija. Tome i ovo slanje buljuka oruzja sad.
    Ma ne, posto se nisu raspali za tri dana, red je da se naoruzaju.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:50 pm

    Filipenko wrote:https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1498029624273825792?s=21


    The Spectator Index
    @spectatorindex
    BREAKING: EU states to provide Ukraine with fighter jets



    Sto vise obecavaju Ukrajini, sve sam ubedjeniji da je raspad ukrajinske vojske sve blizi, zato i obecavaju toliko. Sat vremena pre kapitulacije ima da im obecaju 2 nosaca aviona i 10 hiljada tenkova.
    Nije svaka vojska kao vojska RSK pa odmah u beganje. Neki se i brane jako i do samog kraja.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”

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