Rio Tinto

Uncle Baby Billy wrote:

Veliki problem ovde je licemerje. Mi ne želimo da rudnik litijuma bude u Srbiji, želimo da bude u Africi. I onda ćemo koristiti po dva mobilna telefona, po dva laptopa, voziti kola na litijum-jonske baterije, ali ne želimo da se to iskopava kod nas, nego negde tamo.

Ja se slažem da, ako tako odlučimo, nemamo rudnik litijuma. Nemam problem s tim. Ali, molim vas, svi koji se na ovaj način bave ekologijom i zaštitom životne sredine, za početak bi trebalo da se odreknu mobilnih i nekih drugih stvari koje su prednosti savremene civilizacije. Pod dva, ljudi bi mogli i da se edukuju, pa da ne bacaju, recimo, plastiku i svakakvo đubre, koje nije biorazgradivo, po potocima i rekama. Pa pogledajte divlje deponije na svakom ćošku.

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Uncle Baby Billy wrote:

Veliki problem ovde je licemerje. Mi ne želimo da rudnik litijuma bude u Srbiji, želimo da bude u Africi. I onda ćemo koristiti po dva mobilna telefona, po dva laptopa, voziti kola na litijum-jonske baterije, ali ne želimo da se to iskopava kod nas, nego negde tamo.

Ja se slažem da, ako tako odlučimo, nemamo rudnik litijuma. Nemam problem s tim. Ali, molim vas, svi koji se na ovaj način bave ekologijom i zaštitom životne sredine, za početak bi trebalo da se odreknu mobilnih i nekih drugih stvari koje su prednosti savremene civilizacije. Pod dva, ljudi bi mogli i da se edukuju, pa da ne bacaju, recimo, plastiku i svakakvo đubre, koje nije biorazgradivo, po potocima i rekama. Pa pogledajte divlje deponije na svakom ćošku.

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Takođe izabrano merno mesto je iza ušća Korenite u Jadar gde je sadržaj arsena u sedimentu višestruko povećan usled pucanja brane rudnika Stolice za vreme poplava 2014. Bukvalno je nemoguće povezati ove vrednosti sa istražnim bušotinama. Drugi nepoznati deo je uzimanje uzorka izlivene rudničke vode na zemljište do dubine od 5 cm neposredno na mestu izlivanja. Nisu uzimani uzorci ni na većoj dubini niti na većoj udaljenosti od tačke izlivanja da bi se videle razmere mobilnosti u zemljištu ili rasprostiranja negativnih uticaja. To je kao da na prevrnutoj cisterni amonijaka gde amonijak curi gurnete merač u cisternu da vidite koliko je zagađena životna sredina.

Da pojasnim: otvaranjem rudničkih prostorija u stenskoj masi se stvara zona podpritiska i samim tim ka tim zonama (ka samim rudničkim prostorijama) kreće da teče voda. Ta voda se prema projektu sakuplja i ispumpava na površinu, gde se prečišćava i koristi u procesu prerade.

Pozivanje na rad Uticaj projekta Jadar na biodiverzitet (Krizmanić i ostali) zanemaruje činjenicu jasno napisanu u radu o uticaju na biodiverzitet, da značajan uticaj na biodiverzitet moze imati izlivanje sumporne kiseline u reke ili neprečišćenih rudničkih voda u reke. Kako predložena tehnologija ne predviđa ni jedno od ta dva pisanje rada kao da se to desilo tj da će se kontinulano dešavati je besmisleno.

Немачка државна секретарка Франциска Брантнер: Литијум се у Немачкој неће копати све док технологија не омогући задржавање воде и очување земљишта, што у осталим земљама у којима рудници раде тренутно није случај?!
Па, ето, госпођо Брантнер, НАЈМАЊЕ тако и толико неће ни у Србији

— Ђорђе Вукадиновић (@djordjenspm) August 16, 2024

Amaterski video snimak koji je juče neko usplahiren postavio i komentarisao, gde se vidi dvadesetak kvadratnih metara bez trave oko nečega plavog zabodenog u zemlju postaje krunski dokaz da je nešto štetno ili ne.
Dźaba nam svi stručnjaci.
Kritučko mišljenje više ne stanuje ovde.

— Milan Antonijević (@AntonMilan) August 16, 2024

Da je više ovakvih osoba u javnom prostoru (nebitne su same poruke, mogu da budu i u kontra smeru): na nivou stila, svesto šta zna a šta ne, razumevanja debate, uravnoteženosti, bez koketiranja s jevtinim floskulama i neodgovornim ponašanjem. https://t.co/1CSzrJSe0p

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In an interview with German newspaper Tageszeitung, Franziska Brantner said lithium is among the raw materials necessary for climate action. It is mined in Australia and Chile, but entirely processed in China.

Since the Russian aggression on Ukraine, it has become clear, in her words, that dependence on others is dangerous.

The goal of the German government is to reduce such dependencies and the project in Serbia could be the cornerstone of its strategy, the official said.

Rio Tinto’s original plans didn’t meet the European Union’s environmental standards

Brantner stressed that Rio Tinto’s original plans didn’t meet European environmental standards. It was the right thing to protest against the project and it is good it was terminated, she added. According to Brantner, the German government and the European Commission have called for a change in concept.

Lithium in Serbia should only be extracted in processes that aren’t harming the environment, with a high level of water and soil protection and a very good plan for waste disposal, she asserted.

With the pressure in Serbia, among other factors, the project was redeveloped, according to Brantner. Now there is a new landfill concept, she added. More mining waste would be reused and it shouldn’t be done in the middle of a river valley, the official claimed.

There is also a new concept for water protection, and the project leans on renewable energy sources, she said.

Are Germany and Europe stabbing Serbia in the back?

The German newspaper’s interviewer noted that the examples of Chile and in other regions of the world show that lithium mining causes devastation in the surrounding area. He pointed to the Serbian population’s resistance and asked Brantner Germany and Europe are stabbing the country in the back.

Germany has taken the concerns of the Serbian population into account very seriously and made efforts to adjust Rio Tinto’s plan, she said.

According to Brantner, the European Union will monitor the new environmental impact assessments to make sure that environmental standards are met. The EU also intends to develop a value chain for battery production and e-mobility, she said.

Unlike many other projects around the world, where the raw material is only exported, here, in her words, the local population would participate in the value chain.

The control over the project is in the hands of Serbia

Rio Tinto has vowed to comply with EU environmental law, though in Serbia it applies only partially, according to Brantner. It is up to Serbia to oversee the project, while the EU and Germany can provide expert advice, she added.

European companies, in her words, also want compliance with environmental standards.

Brantner acknowledged that the local population and opposition parties are right to demand from state institutions to enforce environmental standards. At the same time, it is good if Europe has its own mines and processes the ore in line with its rules, according to the state secretary.

EU wants to prevent China from increasing its influence on European sources of raw materials

That way the EU is preventing China from exerting greater influence with regard to European sources of raw materials, Brantner stressed.

The question is not whether the lithium project in Serbia would materialize, but whether Rio Tinto and European partners would implement it or the Chinese would, she said. Brantner expressed the belief that a partnership between Serbia and China wouldn’t bring more benefits for democracy, the environment, and population in Serbia.

The new Jadar project is also an opportunity to show the world that German and European companies are making a difference and that the extraction and processing of raw materials can be much more environmentally friendly than until now, Brantner said.

Del Cap wrote:Na RT temi ima vanredno mnogo lupetanja i laganja u javnosti, od političara, novinara, eksperata (pravih i nazovi) i to sa obe strane (mada državna administracija mora snositi odgovornost i nema znaka jednakosti). Zapravo je 90% "debate" potpuni očaj i rezervoar poluinformacija, tračeva, nejasnosti, nepreciznosti, ja je vidim kao simptom da je ludi AV poludeo ponajveći deo preostalog društva.