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    Post by Guest Sun May 02, 2021 9:59 am

    nisi u pravu!
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 10:00 am

    Mnogima ce isteci. Ne vecini, nego mnogima
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 10:01 am

    To ne znaci da ce proci isto ako se zaraze kao da se nikad nisu vakcinisali, ali moci ce da se razbole, da prenose, a neki i da umru, ako se ne revakcinisu
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    Post by Guest Sun May 02, 2021 10:04 am

    pojednostavljuješ iz nekog razloga

    na primer

    šta se dešava ukoliko je virus stvarno toliko pristutan i sa njim dolaze u kontakt vakcinisani?
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    Post by паће Sun May 02, 2021 10:09 am

    Talason wrote:pojednostavljuješ iz nekog razloga

    na primer

    šta se dešava ukoliko je virus stvarno toliko pristutan i sa njim dolaze u kontakt vakcinisani?

    То замишљам као вежбу... "ајде момци, за ово смо се спремали, у напад!" или тако нешто. Што ће рећи да досољавање вакцином или успутним контактом треба да изађе на исто.

    Ај сад, стручњаци, где грешим.


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    Post by Guest Sun May 02, 2021 10:17 am

    Bitno je da mnogo toga još uvek ima uticaj na situaciju koji nam nije jasan/poznat.
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    Post by Sotir Sun May 02, 2021 10:32 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:Dakle, imunitet za godinu dana. Osim sto ce mnogima koji su primili u feb/martu/apr on isteci do tada

    5,5м пунолетних, 11м доза.
    Довољно 80% за имунитет, 8,8м доза.
    Дато 3,5, остаје мање од 5,5 - мање од 6 месеци овим темпом.
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    Post by Sotir Sun May 02, 2021 10:33 am

    Има још једна битна ставка, ако на лето падне на пар стотина дневно заражених што је могуће, вирусу ће бити далеко теже и спорије да се после поново подигне, кад ће бити преко пола имуних.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 10:52 am

    Sotir wrote:
    Mór Thököly wrote:Dakle, imunitet za godinu dana. Osim sto ce mnogima koji su primili u feb/martu/apr on isteci do tada

    5,5м пунолетних, 11м доза.
    Довољно 80% за имунитет, 8,8м доза.
    Дато 3,5, остаје мање од 5,5 - мање од 6 месеци овим темпом.

    Ma ja ne znam stvarno koja je to fora sa "punoletnima".
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 10:53 am

    Talason wrote:pojednostavljuješ iz nekog razloga

    na primer

    šta se dešava ukoliko je virus stvarno toliko pristutan i sa njim dolaze u kontakt vakcinisani?

    Znam sta hoces da kazes, ali to je...mislim, ne moze se sa sigurnoscu na to racunati, dokse sa prilicnom sigurnoscu moze racunati na to da je dejstvo vakcina 12 meseci kasnije prilicnoslabije. Sami proizvodjaci to navode kao vrlo verovatno
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    Post by Guest Sun May 02, 2021 11:20 am

    Ne možeš da računaš sa sigurnošću ništa, za sada znamo samo deo priče.
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    Post by Sotir Sun May 02, 2021 11:28 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:




    Ma ja ne znam stvarno koja je to fora sa "punoletnima".
    Хинт:
    Можда је некако повезано са тиме које особе вакцинишу.  Virus - Page 20 3204619380

    У Израелу кад су достигли 80% пунолетних вакцинисаних број новозаражених константно опада, што по дефиницији личи на колективни имунитет. Без обзира што је то било једва преко 50% становништва. 

    Старије малолетнике су касније почели да вакцинишу.
    Врло је дискутабилно да ли ће млађе од 12 уопште вакцинисати.
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    Post by rumbeando Sun May 02, 2021 2:29 pm

    The European Commission on Sunday called on EU member states to regularly monitor sewage systems for fresh outbreaks of the coronavirus.

    "It is crucial that EU countries set up effective wastewater monitoring systems as soon as possible and ensure the relevant data are immediately made available to health authorities," Environment Commissioner Virginijus Sinkevicius told the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag.

    She said they were an "inexpensive, fast and reliable source of information about the spread of the virus and its variants in the population." Large cities and municipalities should analyze at least two samples weekly in what Sinkevicius said was "a proven concept in public health insurance."

    Some European countries have already begun monitoring sewage systems and were able to forewarn about worsening outbreaks. Wastewater systems are also used to gain knowledge about the extent of the use of illegal drugs in the population.
    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-eu-states-must-monitor-sewage-systems-for-covid/a-57401244
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 7:00 pm

    Drugarica se razbolela. Sta ono bese Zinc 50mg, Vit C 2k, Vit D Vigantol 15 kapi, sta bese jos...mislim dok se ne docepa lekara...
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    Post by rumbeando Sun May 02, 2021 7:03 pm

    Cink je bolje da sisa ležeći da direktno deluje na grlo.
    https://www.apotekanet.rs/adrien-gagnon-cink-15mg-vitamin-c-tablete-za-zvakanje-a60

    In late February 2020, as a new coronavirus spread worldwide, a letter providing advice on avoiding a viral infection was shared and memed heavily. The letter is attributed to pathologist James Robb who described himself as “one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses.”
    ...
    Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY “cold-like” symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zinc-lozenges-coronavirus/


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 7:04 pm

    Jao jeste, hvala
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 7:09 pm

    Da, i Aspirin, sad sam se setio
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    Post by rumbeando Sun May 02, 2021 7:14 pm

    Pošalji joj ovo da je ohrabri da bude uporna - treba između 6 i 12 pastila dnevno u zavisnosti od težine.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jmv.26812
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun May 02, 2021 7:17 pm

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    Post by Guest Mon May 03, 2021 3:54 pm

    znam još jednu osobu koja je imala skoro 5 meseci "long covid" 

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    Post by Del Cap Mon May 03, 2021 10:05 pm

    https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038?s=09

    Origin of Covid — Following the Clues

    The Covid-19 pandemic has disrupted lives the world over for more than a year. Its death toll will soon reach three million people. Yet the origin of pandemic remains uncertain: the political agendas of governments and scientists have generated thick clouds of obfuscation, which the mainstream press seems helpless to dispel.

    In what follows I will sort through the available scientific facts, which hold many clues as to what happened, and provide readers with the evidence to make their own judgments. I will then try to assess the complex issue of blame, which starts with, but extends far beyond, the government of China.

    By the end of this article, you may have learned a lot about the molecular biology of viruses. I will try to keep this process as painless as possible. But the science cannot be avoided because for now, and probably for a long time hence, it offers the only sure thread through the maze.

    he virus that caused the pandemic is known officially as SARS-CoV-2, but can be called SARS2 for short. As many people know, there are two main theories about its origin. One is that it jumped naturally from wildlife to people. The other is that the virus was under study in a lab, from which it escaped. It matters a great deal which is the case if we hope to prevent a second such occurrence.

    I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.

    ...
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    Post by rumbeando Tue May 04, 2021 9:38 am

    Indijska varijanta počinje da potiskuje britansku (tj. kentsku kako je oni zovu) u Britaniji, u Londonu je već na preko 10%.



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    Post by rumbeando Tue May 04, 2021 10:01 am

    U SAD samo stare varijante virusa opadaju, sve nove zabrinjavajuće rastu, najviše brazilska P.1, zatim britanska B.1.1.7 i najsporije južnoafrička B.1.351.

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    Vakcinacija tamo je dosta usporila, spustili su se za milion doza dnevno u odnosu na pik od 3,4 miliona koji su imali sredinom aprila.

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