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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:37 am

    Kome treba ta EU ona se ionako ubrzo raspada
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:52 am

    Meni je u ovoj njenoj izjavi zanimljivije nesto drugo...
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:06 am

    ali nam nećeš reći šta  VAKCINA - Page 9 3579118792
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:12 am

    Dakle, ta pomoc ce ici lekarima, planirali su vojsku i pandure od Pfizera, a ovi ostali neka sacekaju. To je receno?
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:14 am

    trebaju im zdravstveni radnici, normalno da će da ih čuvaju
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:17 am

    Talason wrote:ali nam nećeš reći šta  VAKCINA - Page 9 3579118792

    Dobro, kriv sam VAKCINA - Page 9 1399639816

    Odvajanje ZB i "susedstva"
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:52 am

    Dobro, to nije novo, npr. ona vajna "strategija proširenja" iz 2018. je i eksplicitno samo za ZB.
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:53 am

    ZB je predsoblje


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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:54 am

    Ja mislim da je bitno ono o vakcinama za zdravstvene radnike (koji naravno i treba da imaju prioritet), to je neki minimum koji bi kao trebalo da održi sistem funkcionalnim.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:20 am

    Sa Fajzerovom ispostavom u Beogradu dogovorena je isporuka svih 1,8 miliona doza vakcine Srbiji tokom 2021, a da li će ta količina biti isporučena po predviđenom planu niko ne može da garantuje, ali se nadamo da ćemo dobiti dovoljno vakcina za postizanje kolektivnog imuniteta, izjavio je za državni sekretar Ministarstva zdravlja Mirsad Đerlek.

    On je za Sputnjik, povodom navoda da su polovinu svih zaliha vakcina na globalnom nivou već kupile razvijene zemlje, rekao kako će biti potrebno vreme da se vidi može li Fajzer proizvesti dovoljno vakcina.

    "Da li će moći Fajzer da organizuje toliku proizvodnju i da isporuči ne samo nama 1,8 miliona doza - a sigurno su cifre za neke druge države enormno velike - to ćemo morati da sačekamo da bih mogao da dam konkretan odgovor, jer ovom prilikom se moram ograditi oko toga. To je priča koju sam ja dobio od Fajzerove ispostave u Beogradu da je dogovoreno o isporuci ovih količina. Da li je to sigurno, to u ovom trenutku ne mogu da potvrdim", izjavio je Đerlek za Sputnjik.

    pa da, ti si samo državni sekretar Ministarstva zdravlja, zašto bi ti išta znao.


    ja bih onako odokativno rekao da u ovom trenutku nemamo dogovoren pristup ni jednoj jedinoj dozi vakcine. nema ugovora ni sa kim, nema ničeg. baš kao što sam predvideo pre pola godine ili kad već, oni bukvalno ništa nisu radili sve ovo vreme. i obrazovanim ljudima je jako teško da shvate da je masovna proizvodnja vakcine izuzetno složena i da u početku neće biti za sve i tačka, tu nema pomoći, ili se laktaj ili crkni.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:40 am

    Erős Pista wrote:ZB je predsoblje

    Podrum
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:42 am

    Kapija iza koje je mnogo gadno kuče.
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:45 am

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Erős Pista wrote:ZB je predsoblje

    Podrum

    Spoiler:


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:46 am

    Ili neka scena iz Undergrounda
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:18 pm

    http://www.nspm.rs/hronika/ana-brnabic-kao-sto-je-i-obecao-predsednik-vucic-srbija-ce-biti-jedna-od-zemalja-koja-ce-dobiti-prve-vakcine-protiv-koronavirusa-imacemo-ih-do-kraja-2020.html


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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:31 pm

    nemamo razlog da joj ne verujemo
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    Post by disident Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:36 pm

    Sad kad vucko upali simularkum, moze brat Putin da posaljes xxxxx vakcina putem medija


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:39 pm

    Zapravo smo vec vakcinisani. Pobeda.


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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:47 pm

    Kirko Skaddeng wrote:pa da, ti si samo državni sekretar Ministarstva zdravlja, zašto bi ti išta znao.

    Neozbiljno.

    Vučić je izjavio da će tih 1,8 miliona biti nabavljeno preko Covaxa.
     
    Do sada smo preko Kovaks (COVAX) sistema obezbedili za kraj ove i celu sledeću godinu milion i 800 hiljada doza vakcine protiv korona virusa, rekao je predsednik Srbije Aleksandar Vučić.
    On je najavio da će to biti najverovatnije vakcine proizvođača Fajzer i Biontek.
    „Ali pregovaramo i sa kineskim i ruskim partnerima“, dodao je, "sa svima koji bi vakcinu mogli da nabave jer su nam potrebne mnogo veće količine."
    https://www.slobodnaevropa.org/a/30944113.html]https://www.slobodnaevropa.org/a/30944113.html
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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:51 pm

    Drugmakers Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline said Friday that their potential COVID-19 vaccine won’t be ready until late next year because they need to improve the shot’s effectiveness in older people.

    The companies said early trials showed the vaccine produced an “insufficient” immune response in people over 60 because it didn’t contain enough of the material that triggers the production of disease-fighting antibodies. They said they plan to reformulate the vaccine and do more testing, which is likely to delay approval to the fourth quarter of 2021 from the middle of the year.

    “The results of the study are not as we hoped,” Roger Connor, president of London-based GSK Vaccines, said in a statement.
    https://apnews.com/article/europe-coronavirus-pandemic-b465ce2e9483b972ad546b8c91021c01
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    Post by Летећи Полип Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:52 pm

    Naravno da nemaju ništa. Zato i proizvode ovu antivaksersku histeriju, kako bi svalili krivicu na neposlušno krdo.


    Na stranu što verovatno nemaju ni para.


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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:55 pm

    Летећи Полип wrote:Naravno da nemaju ništa. Zato i proizvode ovu antivaksersku histeriju, kako bi svalili krivicu na neposlušno krdo.


    Na stranu što verovatno nemaju ni para.

    To i ja mislim.


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    Post by rumbeando Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:10 pm

    Ameri odobrili Fajzerovu vakcinu, plan je da, ako za koji dan odobre i Moderninu, za nešto više od dva i po meseca vakcinišu 100 miliona ljudi: 20 miliona do kraja decembra, još 30 miliona do kraja januara i još 50 miliona do kraja februara. To je dakle nešto manje od trećine stanovništva pošto SAD trenutno ima oko 330 miliona.

    DECEMBER 12, 2020, 4:05 AM, UPDATED 8 HOURS AGO

    Explainer: U.S. has authorized the first COVID-19 vaccine - when will I get it?

    By Rebecca Spalding

    4 MIN READ

    (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration authorized the first COVID-19 vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc and BioNTech SE , making it available for emergency use to patients aged 16 and older.

    In clinical trials, the vaccine was 95% effective at preventing illness and showed no short-term safety issues.

    The following is an outline of vaccine distribution plans.

    WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

    The federal government plans to release the nation’s first 2.9 million doses within days of the authorization to 64 states, U.S. territories and major cities, as well as five federal agencies. Although the federal government is coordinating distribution efforts, states have the final decision over who gets the first shots. The federal government is sending the first shipments to more than 600 locations.

    WHO IS FIRST IN LINE FOR A SHOT?

    States are prioritizing healthcare workers and elderly long-term care residents for the first vaccinations. There are about 21 million healthcare workers in the United States and 3 million nursing home residents. Most states anticipate they will be able to vaccinate only between 13% and 18% of their healthcare workers with the first distribution, a Reuters analysis found. The federal government has said it will continue to send out millions of doses each week but has not released exact figures.

    WHO IS NEXT IN LINE?

    States have broad discretion over who will get the vaccine next. So far, a panel advising the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has only issued the guidance that healthcare workers and nursing home residents should be first.

    The CDC has laid out a possible framework of three distribution phases, suggesting essential workers and people aged 65 and older as the next priority.

    Some states have indicated they plan to give essential workers priority after healthcare workers and nursing home residents receive the vaccine.

    At least 20 large industries are lobbying states to get their workers classified as essential, a Reuters analysis found, including Uber Technologies Inc, DoorDash Inc, and others.

    WILL THERE BE ENOUGH VACCINES TO GO AROUND?

    Pfizer has said it would make 50 million doses this year - enough to inoculate 25 million people - about half of which would go to the United States. Pfizer has an agreement with the U.S. government to supply a total of 100 million doses, enough for 50 million people to be vaccinated. The United States has an option to buy an additional 500 million doses.

    An panel of expert advisers to the FDA will review a second COVID-19 vaccine from Moderna Inc next week. If that vaccine is authorized, federal officials have said they will be able to vaccinate 20 million Americans in December, 30 million in January, and 50 million in February.

    Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca Plc also have vaccines in late-stage trials. If those vaccines receive authorization early next year, officials said there would be enough doses to vaccinate about 75 million Americans a month by about March or April.

    Officials said by the middle of next year, the United States will have distributed enough vaccines for most Americans who want the vaccine to be inoculated.

    WHAT HAPPENS ONCE I GET THE VACCINE?

    The vaccine is given in two shots, three weeks apart. Pfizer has said side effects in trial volunteers were mostly mild to moderate, and cleared up quickly. The most severe side effects occurred after the second dose, including flu-like symptoms, fatigue and headache.

    Although the vaccine was shown to be highly effective at preventing illness, there is no data yet that suggests it also prevents infection or the ability to spread the virus to others. Mask-wearing and social distancing will likely remain in place until more people are vaccinated or proof emerges that the vaccine also prevents virus transmission.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccine-distribution/explainer-u-s-has-authorized-the-first-covid-19-vaccine-when-will-i-get-it-idUKL1N2IQ25X
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    Erős Pista wrote:http://www.nspm.rs/hronika/ana-brnabic-kao-sto-je-i-obecao-predsednik-vucic-srbija-ce-biti-jedna-od-zemalja-koja-ce-dobiti-prve-vakcine-protiv-koronavirusa-imacemo-ih-do-kraja-2020.html

    Hoćemo, taman nekih par desetina komada da Agencija za lekove odradi papirologiju i registraciju...
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    Post by Erős Pista Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:16 pm

    Upravo.


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