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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:49 pm

    otto katz wrote:
    Gargamel wrote:

    zdravija populacija jeste, dobrim delom zato što su sirotinja. nemaju auta, pa pešače i voze bicikle.
    Pa što sirotinja drugdje po svijetu nije zdrava? Voze se autom?

    znaš šta, nije samo to. imaju oni tamo plaže a besposleni su pa verovatno i puno plivaju. to je mnogo zdravije jer manje opterećuje zglobove.
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:54 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:da kacimo obamu na kubi ili ne?
    realpolitik vs iskrenost. prvim se zarade optužbe za neiskrenost i pokvarenost, potonjim se zarade optužbe za lenjinoidnost.

    zasluženo.

    nije korbin hvalio to sto je kastro pobacao disidente u zatvore nego zdravstvo i obrazovanje.
    aha... jel to ono kad Pinočea desničari hvale da je napravio čudo u ekonomiji? UK - Politika i društvo  - Page 7 1241126653

    vala jeste isto. jedan bacao u kazamate da sirotinja ne bi stigla do besplatnih bolnica a drugi kako bi te bolnice napravio. crva nije ni bilo.

    drugo naravno da obama nije neiskren. svaki iole normalan predsednik razume da je kuba zatvorena i paranoicna s razlogom.


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    Post by Gargamel Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:56 pm

    otto katz wrote:Pa što sirotinja drugdje po svijetu nije zdrava? Voze se autom?
    poredim ih sa SAD. ako ih pak poredim sa npr. pod-saharskom Afrikom, stabilniji i bogatiji, bolje uhranjeni, bolje zdravstvo...
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:04 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    otto katz wrote:Pa što sirotinja drugdje po svijetu nije zdrava? Voze se autom?
    poredim ih sa SAD. ako ih pak poredim sa npr. pod-saharskom Afrikom, stabilniji i bogatiji, bolje uhranjeni, bolje zdravstvo...

    ovo je prilicno cinicna izjava. vecina izvestaja jednostavno potvrdjuju da je zdravstvo bolje na kube nego nacelno u regionu. ono sto je kritika je zapravo posledica prvenstveno embarga (npr. dostupnost pojedinih lekova ili nacelna oronulost zgrada). takodje ima dosta i levih kritika - npr. zdravstveni turizam i preferemnce koje ti pacijenti imaju u sistemu.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:05 pm

    ali nije bitno ako su ti kastro i pinoce isto onda jebiga.


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    Post by Gargamel Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:09 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:vala jeste isto.
    da li je isto ili ne, levo ili desno, kako su i koliko različiti... streljanje ili vešanje?

    duplo golo.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:10 pm

    Gargamel wrote:zdravija populacija jeste, dobrim delom zato što su sirotinja. nemaju auta, pa pešače i voze bicikle.

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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:14 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:vala jeste isto.
    da li je isto ili ne, levo ili desno, kako su i koliko različiti... streljanje ili vešanje?

    duplo golo.

    ovo je sada karala ga majka ne sto se kockao...


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:17 pm

    kada je kastro dosao kuba je bila diktatura. mislim gledao si kuma 2? pinoce je srusio demokratski izabranog predsednika na osnovu njegove progresivne socijalne agende. meni zapravo sada puca mozak od ovog liberalnog vakuma gde amerikanci grese jedino kada vise, brze i jace ne podrzavaju dzihadiste u siriji. 

    ovo je ko hilari na spidu.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:19 pm

    sori, glupo sto uplicem siriju u ovo ali mislim to se tice i uk izbora i blera i njegove i torijevske medjunarodne politike


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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 pm

    što se eugenike tiče, koristiti taj pojam u kontekstu prekidanja trudnoće nakon utvrđivanja anomalija je vrlo vrlo slippery slope. na dnu je naravno izjednačavanje prenatalnog skrininga sa eugenikom, potom se dno provali i upadamo u negiranje reproduktivnih prava.
    to da Kuba nasilno vrši abortuse na takvoj skali da to utiče na statistike ipak zahteva i neku podlogu u vidu nezavisnog istraživanja.
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:22 pm

    Papa Lazarou wrote:što se eugenike tiče, koristiti taj pojam u kontekstu prekidanja trudnoće nakon utvrđivanja anomalija je vrlo vrlo slippery slope. na dnu je naravno izjednačavanje prenatalnog skrininga sa eugenikom, potom se dno provali i upadamo u negiranje reproduktivnih prava.
    to da Kuba nasilno vrši abortuse na takvoj skali da to utiče na statistike ipak zahteva i neku podlogu u vidu nezavisnog istraživanja.

    ma to nije ni izbliza provereno. glavne zamerke sistemu dolaze od ljudi poput hilde moline koji zapravo zele vise socijalizma a ne manje


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    Post by Gargamel Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:23 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:ovo je sada karala ga majka ne sto se kockao...
    prosto mi nije stalo da se bavim time ko je tu manje ili više zlo. na jedan način, Kastro je gori (ostao diktator do kraja). na drugi način, Pinoče je gori (ubio više ljudi).

    dodaj po želji jednom i drugom, i meri. meni je duplo golo, daleko im lepa kuća jednom i drugom.
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:24 pm

    ali eto sada branimo korbina zbog izjave o kastru dok je baronesa tacer naravno nezno mislila o pinoceu. ludilo. i onda gaegamel kaze kako bi glasao za libdemove. da su isti potrosili delic energije na napade na torijevce kao sto su na korbina...


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:27 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:ovo je sada karala ga majka ne sto se kockao...
    prosto mi nije stalo da se bavim time ko je tu manje ili više zlo. na jedan način, Kastro je gori (ostao diktator do kraja). na drugi način, Pinoče je gori (ubio više ljudi).

    dodaj po želji jednom i drugom, i meri. meni je duplo golo, daleko im lepa kuća jednom i drugom.

    jako mi je glupo da nastavljam ovu raspravu. procitaj sta sam napisao gore o dolasku jednog i drugog na vlasti pomnozi sa interesima united fruita i mafije podeli sa zalivom svinja i dobijes kvadraturu kruga a u njemu nije plava zvezda vec razlog zasto je kastro ostao na vlasti do kraja.


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    Post by паће Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:34 pm

    Гаргамел ће, надам се, успети да изрелативизује и разлоге зашто сам га ставио на игнор листу, све је то исто, и блага нелагода при читању и жеља да му извучем уши кроз троструку заграду. Цезар је имао техничких проблема при бројању гласова, Наполеон се упетљао око логистике, а Савонарола око попуњавања шв20. Ако ревидира, другови, јављајте па да организујемо ту критику и самокритику па у нове радне победе.


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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 pm

    паће wrote:Гаргамел ће, надам се, успети да изрелативизује и разлоге зашто сам га ставио на игнор листу, све је то исто, и блага нелагода при читању и жеља да му извучем уши кроз троструку заграду. Цезар је имао техничких проблема при бројању гласова, Наполеон се упетљао око логистике, а Савонарола око попуњавања шв20. Ако ревидира, другови, јављајте па да организујемо ту критику и самокритику па у нове радне победе.
    trostruku zagradu? baš moraš to da potežeš?
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:38 pm

    okrutno


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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:44 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    otto katz wrote:Pa što sirotinja drugdje po svijetu nije zdrava? Voze se autom?
    poredim ih sa SAD. ako ih pak poredim sa npr. pod-saharskom Afrikom, stabilniji i bogatiji, bolje uhranjeni, bolje zdravstvo...irotinja u SAD je zdrava?
    Znači sirotinja u SAD je zdrava. Đe onaj Munlajt da objasni par stvari.


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    Post by Gargamel Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:00 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:pinoce je srusio demokratski izabranog predsednika na osnovu njegove progresivne socijalne agende.
    ako baš hoćeš... ovo masnim slovima je levičarska romantizovana verzija, ono što su pučisti želeli je da spasu Čile od potpunog kolapsa. (obrati pažnju, to što ja mislim da im je motivacija bila qrac, šta ja mislim šta je tu trebalo uraditi ili ne, da li ja mislim da je Čile pičio ka ekonomskom kolapsu... šta god ja mislio o tome, to je bila njihova motivacija.)

    desničarska romantizovana verzija je da je Pinoče od Čilea stvorio ekonomsko čudo.


    tip je ekonomski istoričar, valja pročitati oba članka:
    https://pseudoerasmus.com/2015/05/21/the-invisible-blockade-against-allendes-chile/
    https://medium.com/@pseudoerasmus/to-explain-myself-on-twitter-my-view-of-chile-is-simply-this-fc44ddd93ce3

    (2) Allende was a complete disaster. His economic administration was both a ‘short-term’ disaster of fiscal and monetary management; and a long-term structural disaster of increasingly ‘socialising’ the economy. Allende to some extent was unlucky because copper prices were falling during his tenure, but his mismanagement was extreme, Venezuela-like, in the face of the external shock. Yes, most Latin American countries have had balance of payments crises relating to commodities shocks, but seldom this extreme.
    ...
    (5) Almost all of the economic growth in the Pinochet years was simply recovery from recession, i.e., closing the output gaps that he himself created. There was no change in trend output growth, which is sort of what we expect from ‘miracles’ in economic development.
    ...
    (7) But none of that makes Chile special. There is no “Chilean Miracle”.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:06 pm

    Ne daj bože da su, ono, izazvali nekako parlamentarnu krizu i pobedili na izborima  UK - Politika i društvo  - Page 7 2304934895
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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 pm

    moralo se. cim je ekonomska kriza koncentracioni logor.

    inace ekonomska kriza je delimicno izazvana opet americkim mesanjem. ali to nije bitno. nije bilo gladi, nije bilo ni blizu venecueli danas. 

    mislim ovaj tip kaze ovo: blokade je bilo ali ona nije bila efikasna zato sto je socijalizam nefikasan. hur dur.


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    Post by Erős Pista Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 pm

    Gargamel wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:ovo je sada karala ga majka ne sto se kockao...
    prosto mi nije stalo da se bavim time ko je tu manje ili više zlo. na jedan način, Kastro je gori (ostao diktator do kraja). na drugi način, Pinoče je gori (ubio više ljudi).

    dodaj po želji jednom i drugom, i meri. meni je duplo golo, daleko im lepa kuća jednom i drugom.

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    Post by Zuper Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:58 pm

    Nista od nazdravljanja za uspesno izlgasavanje zakona o izlasku Britanije iz EU?
    Nemojte tako,

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