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Germany: SPD (S&D) party congress votes in favour of coalition talks with Merkel's CDU/CSU (EPP) after four months of government crisis.
SPD (S&D) delegates: 645
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И после Мркеле Мркела...
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/germany-spd-social-democratic-party-coalition-deal-momentum-cdu
SPD activists seek help of Momentum to dash German coalition deal
Activists opposed to renewal of grand coalition with CDU are looking to British grassroots movement for inspiration
Philip Oltermann
Wed 24 Jan 2018 10.33 GMT Last modified on Wed 24 Jan 2018 10.48 GMT
Members of Germany’s Social Democratic party are turning to the Labour grassroots movement Momentum for advice on how to derail a coalition deal with Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union.
Delegates of Martin Schulz’s SPD gave a reluctant green light on Sunday to continue talks about renewing the GroKo (grand coalition) that has governed Germany for the past four years.
But the 440,000 members of the centre-left party could plunge the country into turmoil when they get a final vote on the coalition agreement next month.
Invigorated by the close-run result at the weekend, the people behind the #NoGroKo campaign are seeking inspiration from the tactics that helped Jeremy Corbyn to a surprise victory in the 2015 Labour leadership election.
Emma Rees, one of Momentum’s four founding members and its national coordinator until December, met SPD activists in Berlin on Monday and Tuesday, and took part in a panel debate at the Friedrich Ebert Foundation, a political foundation closely associated with the party.
“The key lesson that I was able to offer is that people care about and want to participate in politics, if you let them,” she told the Guardian. “Politics as a spectator sport has lost traction with voters.”
Momentum’s head of digital communications also visited the German capital to hold a workshop with SPD activists at the end of last year.
Numerous speakers at the party summit in Bonn called on the SPD to draw inspiration from Labour, which bucked an overarching trend among European leftwing parties by increasing its share of the vote at the previous general election.
However, the Guardian understands that the SPD youth organisation, Young Socialists, remains cautious about being too closely associated with Momentum for fear that its tactics could widen the growing rift between the party’s base and leadership.
Senior SPD leaders warned that a campaign based on personality, such as Corbyn’s, would be difficult to recreate under Germany’s proportional voting system, and German voters already have a more overtly leftwing option in Die Linke, which won 9.2% of the vote at the election in September.
Kevin Kühnert, 28, the Young Socialists leader who has become the public face of the campaign to prevent a renewed grand coalition, received a standing ovation on Sunday for a speech in which he pleaded with delegates to vote against coalition talks, while holding out an olive branch to the leadership, emphasising his “pain” about the growing split in the SPD.
Kühnert was not among the young activists who met Rees in Berlin.
The youth wing has already announced a nationwide campaign to get members to sign up in order to influence the outcome of the membership vote, using the slogan “a tenner against the grand coalition”, referring to €10 (£8.80) being the cost of two months’ membership.
Frederick Cordes, the Young Socialists leader in North-Rhine Westphalia, told the Rheinische Post newspaper: “What matters now is that we bring as many GroKo opponents into the party as possible so we can blow up the result at the membership vote.”
SPD branches in a number of German states have reported significant rises in membership this week, with its North-Rhine Westphalia stronghold registering 520 applications on Monday alone.
Johannes Kahrs, a spokesman for the SPD’s liberal Seeheim circle of MPs, tweeted: “Allowing people to join for only two months in order to vote no is indecent. Joining and then leaving is nasty trickery.”
The SPD leadership is yet to confirm whether there will be a cut-off point after which new members will no longer be able to vote on the coalition deal. A spokesperson said a decision on the technicalities of the poll was expected at the start of next week.
Rees said: “My advice to the SPD would be that fostering a sense of inclusivity also makes strategic sense in the long run, as Labour saw at the general election. Especially for a party that wants to renew itself, like the SPD, that could be a valuable lesson.”
a spd stoji "sjajno", štagod da urade izduvaće ga. da idu na nove izbore - pući će, a teško da će profitirati od grokoa.
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23. јан - https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/955768802712702976
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 32%
SPD-S&D: 18% (-1)
AfD-EFDD: 14%
LINKE-LEFT: 11% (-1)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 10%
FDP-ALDE: 10%
Field work: 22/01/18
Sample size: 1,169
da ne zaboravimo da će afd, kao 3. najjača stranka u bundestagu postati najveća opoziciona stranka u nemačkoj, što je, jel, sjajna platforma za njih za naredni period.
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by Erős Pista Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:45 pm
Pa kad su budale (SPD). Ali bolje novi izbori nego groko. Ako sad puknu, na sledećim izborima mogu da se oporave, ako opet kleknu pred Angelom, zakopaće se za sva vremena.
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Gargantua wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/germany-spd-social-democratic-party-coalition-deal-momentum-cdu
SPD activists seek help of Momentum to dash German coalition deal
Activists opposed to renewal of grand coalition with CDU are looking to British grassroots movement for inspiration
Philip Oltermann
Wed 24 Jan 2018 10.33 GMT Last modified on Wed 24 Jan 2018 10.48 GMT
Members of Germany’s Social Democratic party are turning to the Labour grassroots movement Momentum for advice on how to derail a coalition deal with Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union.
Delegates of Martin Schulz’s SPD gave a reluctant green light on Sunday to continue talks about renewing the GroKo (grand coalition) that has governed Germany for the past four years.
But the 440,000 members of the centre-left party could plunge the country into turmoil when they get a final vote on the coalition agreement next month.
Invigorated by the close-run result at the weekend, the people behind the #NoGroKo campaign are seeking inspiration from the tactics that helped Jeremy Corbyn to a surprise victory in the 2015 Labour leadership election.
Emma Rees, one of Momentum’s four founding members and its national coordinator until December, met SPD activists in Berlin on Monday and Tuesday, and took part in a panel debate at the Friedrich Ebert Foundation, a political foundation closely associated with the party.
“The key lesson that I was able to offer is that people care about and want to participate in politics, if you let them,” she told the Guardian. “Politics as a spectator sport has lost traction with voters.”
Momentum’s head of digital communications also visited the German capital to hold a workshop with SPD activists at the end of last year.
Numerous speakers at the party summit in Bonn called on the SPD to draw inspiration from Labour, which bucked an overarching trend among European leftwing parties by increasing its share of the vote at the previous general election.
However, the Guardian understands that the SPD youth organisation, Young Socialists, remains cautious about being too closely associated with Momentum for fear that its tactics could widen the growing rift between the party’s base and leadership.
Senior SPD leaders warned that a campaign based on personality, such as Corbyn’s, would be difficult to recreate under Germany’s proportional voting system, and German voters already have a more overtly leftwing option in Die Linke, which won 9.2% of the vote at the election in September.
Kevin Kühnert, 28, the Young Socialists leader who has become the public face of the campaign to prevent a renewed grand coalition, received a standing ovation on Sunday for a speech in which he pleaded with delegates to vote against coalition talks, while holding out an olive branch to the leadership, emphasising his “pain” about the growing split in the SPD.
Kühnert was not among the young activists who met Rees in Berlin.
The youth wing has already announced a nationwide campaign to get members to sign up in order to influence the outcome of the membership vote, using the slogan “a tenner against the grand coalition”, referring to €10 (£8.80) being the cost of two months’ membership.
Frederick Cordes, the Young Socialists leader in North-Rhine Westphalia, told the Rheinische Post newspaper: “What matters now is that we bring as many GroKo opponents into the party as possible so we can blow up the result at the membership vote.”
SPD branches in a number of German states have reported significant rises in membership this week, with its North-Rhine Westphalia stronghold registering 520 applications on Monday alone.
Johannes Kahrs, a spokesman for the SPD’s liberal Seeheim circle of MPs, tweeted: “Allowing people to join for only two months in order to vote no is indecent. Joining and then leaving is nasty trickery.”
The SPD leadership is yet to confirm whether there will be a cut-off point after which new members will no longer be able to vote on the coalition deal. A spokesperson said a decision on the technicalities of the poll was expected at the start of next week.
Rees said: “My advice to the SPD would be that fostering a sense of inclusivity also makes strategic sense in the long run, as Labour saw at the general election. Especially for a party that wants to renew itself, like the SPD, that could be a valuable lesson.”
a spd stoji "sjajno", štagod da urade izduvaće ga. da idu na nove izbore - pući će, a teško da će profitirati od grokoa.
Europe Elects @EuropeElects
23. јан - https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/955768802712702976
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 32%
SPD-S&D: 18% (-1)
AfD-EFDD: 14%
LINKE-LEFT: 11% (-1)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 10%
FDP-ALDE: 10%
Field work: 22/01/18
Sample size: 1,169
da ne zaboravimo da će afd, kao 3. najjača stranka u bundestagu postati najveća opoziciona stranka u nemačkoj, što je, jel, sjajna platforma za njih za naredni period.
samo jedan caveat. glasaci spd se u ovoj anketi nisu prelili niti jednoj drugoj partiji. oni jednostavno za sada nece da se izjasnjavaju i ocigledno su nezadovoljni grokom. drugim recima u nekoj eventualnoj kampanji se mogu vratiti ili glasati za linke. nije sigurno da ce afd biti treci drugim recima.
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by ficfiric Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:20 am
Nemanja Rujević @strani_placenik
VW, Dajmler i BMW su, preko svoje lobi-firme, izvodili eksperimente na sirotinji - trpali ih u laboratoriju da udišu izduvne gasove, otkrio @StZ_NEWS. Obavljeno na Univerzitetu u Ahenu.
Ali hej, ovo je slobodni svet, sirotinja ima pravo da za smešni honorar proda zdravlje.
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by boomer crook Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:03 am
mogli su da se spuste ovde kod mene u sarajevsku.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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by Erős Pista Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:30 am
Neprijatnog li niza asocijacija. Nemacke firme vrsile ekspermente nad ljudima. Kako? Pustale im izduvne gasove.
Ovo ni Filipenko u naletu inspiracije ne bi mogo da smisli.
Ovo ni Filipenko u naletu inspiracije ne bi mogo da smisli.
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by Filipenko Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:18 am
Mozda, ali mi to daje neke ideje za ogledno ispitivanje stetnosti i zagadjenja od strane kravljeg prdeza za naredni put kada budemo oslobadjali Nemacku od stetnog germanskog uticaja. 
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by паће Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:27 am
ostap bender wrote:mogli su da se spuste ovde kod mene u sarajevsku.
Ех, једини пут кад пасуљ у Мрци 1 није ваљао је кад је баш за време мог ручка стигао хлеб. Комби се паркирао тако да истовара право у кухињски улаз, што је значило да је задњи крај натркечио на улаз у салу. Пошто је био неки дркави примерак, наравно да није смео да гаси мотор, јер пали на гурање гаси на дување, и док су истоварили хлеб и док се возач ишчантрао са куварицом, ми да се потрујемо, јер се сала напунила издувним гасовима. Баталио сам пола пасуља.
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by Zuper Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:44 pm
ostap bender wrote:mogli su da se spuste ovde kod mene u sarajevsku.
Vrlo zanimljiv komentar na vest.
Ali barem je Vilijam odbranio cast.
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by Zuper Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:50 pm
Uhapsio Ajhmana – danas podržava AfD
Bivši agent izraelske obaveštajne službe Mosad Rafi Ejtan (91) je izrazio podršku ultradesničarskoj stranci Alternativa za Nemačku (AfD).
On je učestvovao u operaciji hapšenja jednog od najodgovornih za Holokaust, naciste Adolfa Ajhmana.
Ejtan je na Fejsbuk okačio video snimak u kome je izrazio svoju podršku za stranku, rekavši da Izrael ceni stav stranke prema Judaizmu i da se nada da će postati i "alternativa za Evropu".
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by Zuper Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:13 pm
Posteno ako je istina:
SCHULZ IS SAID TO STEP DOWN AS SPD HEAD: SÜDDEUTSCHE ZEITUNG
SCHULZ IS SAID TO STEP DOWN AS SPD HEAD: SÜDDEUTSCHE ZEITUNG
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by Filipenko Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:54 pm
Dakle, nacisticko dete Zigmar Gabrijel je uspeo. SPD ostaje njemu.
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by Guest Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:51 pm
Pa biće ministar inoposlova.
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by Filipenko Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:10 pm
Nije o tome rec, nego je Zigmar takticki prepusio vodjstvo Sulcu pred poslednje izbore, i time sacuvao sopstveni politicki kapital. Paradoks je da je glavni kolaboracionista sa demonohriscanima i osoba koja je SPD najvise kostala njegove sopstvenosti upravo Zigmar Gabrijel, dok je Sulc naivno uleteo, postavio se kao protivkandidat Babasvabe
i slavno izgubio. Sada ovaj dripac koji je jebeno nesmenjiv opet izigrava spasioca.
Samo Die Linke.
i slavno izgubio. Sada ovaj dripac koji je jebeno nesmenjiv opet izigrava spasioca.Samo Die Linke.
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by Guest Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:06 pm
Srecko Matic @srecko_matic 6. феб#GroKo trenutno nema podršku većine birača u Njemačkoj. Nakon@SPDde [na samo +2% ispred@AfD], veliki gubici i kod Unije@CDU/@CSU. Formiranje 'velike koalicije' definitivno postaje sve više i pitanje političkog preživljavanja Merkel, Schulza i Seehofera. http://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/grosse-koalition/insa-groko-54707538,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html …
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by Zuper Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:36 pm
Ocajnicki pokusaji babe ali ovo je zadnji mandat i bice oslabljena...
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by Filipenko Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:53 pm
Odakle zelenoj gamadi toliko glasova?
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by Guest Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:54 pm
jedino su stabilni ovi iz sonstige stranke
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by Zuper Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:58 pm
Filipenko wrote:Nije o tome rec, nego je Zigmar takticki prepusio vodjstvo Sulcu pred poslednje izbore, i time sacuvao sopstveni politicki kapital. Paradoks je da je glavni kolaboracionista sa demonohriscanima i osoba koja je SPD najvise kostala njegove sopstvenosti upravo Zigmar Gabrijel, dok je Sulc naivno uleteo, postavio se kao protivkandidat Babasvabe
Samo Die Linke.
GERMAN SPD'S NAHLES PROPOSES SCHULZ AS FOREIGN MINISTER
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Kate Brady
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13h13 hours ago
So, #Merkel’s put a Grand Coalition deal on the table, but will the Social Dems party members vote #GroKo or #NoGroKo? 460,000+ members can have their say
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by Zuper Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:37 am
Stvarno mislis da ce odbiti ili su ih ona "istrazivanja" dovoljno zaplasila?
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by Guest Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:51 am
opet je pojelo pola tvita. ovo je ceo:
čeka se 1 kampanja i rezultati za mesec dana
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So, #Merkel’s put a Grand Coalition deal on the table, but will the Social Dems party members vote #GroKo or #NoGroKo? 460,000+ members can have their say
Feb 20: Ballots sent out by today and online voting opens
March 2: Deadline for votes
March 4: Votes count and RESULT
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