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    Post by Guest Fri May 04, 2018 1:02 pm

    https://www.ft.com/content/d0eb3e4a-4f77-11e8-a7a9-37318e776bab
        
    US demands China cut trade deficit by $200bn

    New target doubles amount Donald Trump previously asked of Beijing

    Gabriel Wildau in Beijing 31 minutes ago


    The US has demanded that China slash tariffs, reduce the bilateral trade deficit and eliminate state subsidies for strategic industries, as Washington staked out a hardline position in negotiations that concluded in Beijing on Friday.

    The delegation, led by Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin, demanded that China narrow the countries’ bilateral trade deficit by $200bn by 2020, apparently referring to both trade of goods and services. The US’s trade and services deficit with China was $337bn last year, according to US data.

    The target represents a doubling of a previous White House demand that China cut the bilateral deficit by $100bn.

    The negotiators also asked that Beijing cut import tariffs to levels at or below those imposed by the US on the same goods from China.

    The proposal further calls on Beijing to eliminate all subsidies linked to its “ Made in China 2025 ” industrial policy. The plan is designed to promote Chinese leadership in advanced industries including robotics, aerospace and electric vehicles.

    The document also requested that Beijing remove investment restrictions affecting foreign companies operating in China, including caps on foreign equity ownership of locally incorporated groups.

    Washington insists that intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers and joint-venture requirements affecting foreign investment amount to a systematic effort to erode US leadership in strategic sectors.

    The revelations dispel concerns that internal divisions among President Donald Trump’s advisers have prevented the formulation of a coherent set of demands.

    The group’s unusually large size had been seen as a sign of such divisions, according to analysts. The delegation included seven senior officials, including commerce secretary Wilbur Ross, US trade representative Robert Lighthizer, and White House trade and manufacturing adviser Peter Navarro.

    Despite the demands, the talks appeared to have produced no breakthroughs. China’s official Xinhua news agency reported that the two countries “reached some consensus” on expanded US exports to China, bilateral investment, and bilateral services trade but that “rather large differences” remain on some issues.

    In a speech last month, President Xi Jinping said China “does not seek” trade surpluses and would “take the initiative” to expand imports.

    But Chinese officials and experts have said that significant reductions in the bilateral deficit would require easing US restrictions on high-tech exports and building new infrastructure to support US exports of coal and natural gas.

    Both sides had sought to temper expectations for a quick agreement.
    In an editorial on Friday, the state-run China Daily wrote that recent escalation over “niggly” differences suggest “how difficult it will be for the two sides to walk away happy”.

    The nationalist Global Times, which represents the hawkish end of Chinese government thinking, struck a similar tone.

    “Since both sides have their bottom lines to keep, it may be hard to reach a deal, but it is good to start somewhere,” the paper wrote in an editorial on Thursday.

    In recent weeks, China has announced steps to remove barriers to foreign investment in financial services and auto manufacturing.


    But executives said these moves would have a limited impact given that China’s domestic financial institutions now hold powerful incumbent positions, while global automakers cannot easily exit from existing joint ventures.
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    Post by Zuper Fri May 04, 2018 1:14 pm

    Ne moze Kina da ispuni ono sto SAD traze a to je da se Kina odrekne sopstvenog tehnoloskog razvoja "Proizvedeno u Kini 2025". To je ludost i SAD to znaju ali to i nije cilj vec stalni pritisak na Kinu.
    Kinezi pokusavaju da odvoje Nemacku od SAD u STO tako sto su spremni da omoguce uvoz automobila u Kinu bez tarifa sto direktno pogoduje Nemcima...
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    Post by Guest Fri May 04, 2018 1:34 pm

    S tim da nemačka auto-industrija ne determiniše nemačku spoljnu politiku; štaviše, očekivanja da će ona da efektivno lobira u korist mekanog odnosa prema Rusiji (zbog izvoza i dilova koje tamo ima) od 2014. i prema UK oko bregzita su se pokazala neopravdanim. Dodati na to i one "skandale" sa dizelima itd. i može se reći da ona nije u poziciji da uspešno lobira da njen uski interes natkrivi sve ostalo, a to je pre svega nemački odnos prema SAD i shvaćenoj transatlantskoj "solidarnosti". Sitnije mere da, strateški korak u korist Kine - teško.
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    Post by паће Fri May 04, 2018 1:47 pm

    Gargantua wrote:S tim da nemačka auto-industrija ne determiniše nemačku spoljnu politiku; štaviše, očekivanja da će ona da efektivno lobira u korist mekanog odnosa prema Rusiji (zbog izvoza i dilova koje tamo ima) od 2014. i prema UK oko bregzita su se pokazala neopravdanim. Dodati na to i one "skandale" sa dizelima itd. i može se reći da ona nije u poziciji da uspešno lobira da njen uski interes natkrivi sve ostalo, a to je pre svega nemački odnos prema SAD i shvaćenoj transatlantskoj "solidarnosti". Sitnije mere da, strateški korak u korist Kine - teško.

    Одлична фројдовска обашка. Овде не знаш ко је кривљи.


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    Post by Zuper Fri May 04, 2018 1:57 pm

    Gargantua wrote:S tim da nemačka auto-industrija ne determiniše nemačku spoljnu politiku; štaviše, očekivanja da će ona da efektivno lobira u korist mekanog odnosa prema Rusiji (zbog izvoza i dilova koje tamo ima) od 2014. i prema UK oko bregzita su se pokazala neopravdanim. Dodati na to i one "skandale" sa dizelima itd. i može se reći da ona nije u poziciji da uspešno lobira da njen uski interes natkrivi sve ostalo, a to je pre svega nemački odnos prema SAD i shvaćenoj transatlantskoj "solidarnosti". Sitnije mere da, strateški korak u korist Kine - teško.

    Naravno da odredjuje spoljnu politiku. Ne samo proizvodnja automobila ali posto je to najznacajnija nemacka izvozna industrija onda igra veliku ulogu.
    Nemci nemaju snage da se otvoreno suprostave SAD ali bi u STO mogli da se malo pobune zbog raznih tarifa i to tako sto ce igrati na obe stane, sto vec rade ne samo u odnosu Kina-SAD vec i Rusija-SAD samo po nekim drugim pitanjima.
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    Post by Guest Fri May 04, 2018 2:01 pm

    Dobro, kako i gde je auto-industrija odredila nemačku spoljnu politiku, u prilikama kada se nešto lomi/odlučuje?

    Dadoh ti dva najsvežija primera gde je bilo baš suprotno.
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    Post by паће Fri May 04, 2018 2:13 pm

    Занимљив је положај немачких и француских кола на америчком тржишту. Французи су одатле напросто нестали - било је два три покушаја/попушаја, рено 5 негде седамдесетих и већи пежои касних осамдесетих, и крај. Ситроен, никад чули. Симка/Талбо, мада филијала Крајслера, ни покушали. Колико год да ствари мажњавају од Француза, то остаје ограничено на архитектуру, клопу, вино и моде у сексу, кола јок.
    Док с друге стране и мечка и буба и бенџа имају уредне америчке преводе - свако зна шта је мерк, шта баг а шта бимер. За аудије се баш не сећам да их је било, ваљда фалило православних попова.


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    Post by Zuper Fri May 04, 2018 2:23 pm

    Gargantua wrote:Dobro, kako i gde je auto-industrija odredila nemačku spoljnu politiku, u prilikama kada se nešto lomi/odlučuje?

    Dadoh ti dva najsvežija primera gde je bilo baš suprotno.

    Treba da se vidi kakav ce biti izlazak Britanije iz EU, nesto mislim da ce biti usliseno ovo,

    The German automobile industry is exerting massive pressure to keep the United Kingdom in the customs union.

    Sto se tice dizela, to je posebna tema koja ima vise delova izmedju ostalog da nemacka nema snage da se suprostavlja otvoreno SAD.
    Da ne govorim o uticaju nemacke auto-industrije po EU, narocito istoku, koji je dobrim delom nemacka ekonomska kolonija...
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    Post by Guest Fri May 04, 2018 2:45 pm

    Odluka o ostanku u c.u. je na Britaniji, ne na Nemačkoj, aman.
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    Post by Zuper Fri May 04, 2018 2:59 pm

    Aman zaman, zavisi od ponude i kompletnog paketa...
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    Post by Guest Fri May 04, 2018 3:16 pm

    To što torijevci i dalje misle da je na EU da prihvati nekakve zamisli Londona je samo njihov problem, ali to i dalje nije ono s čim si počeo a to je krucijalni uticaj auto-industrije na nemačku spoljnu politiku, prema Kini/SAD.
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    Post by Zuper Fri May 04, 2018 4:19 pm

    Videcemo...
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    Post by Zuper Tue May 08, 2018 2:40 am

    White House threatens Beijing with ‘consequences’ for ‘militarising South China Sea’ after missiles were reportedly installed on islands
    Beijing has evaded questions about whether it has installed the missiles on islands over the last 30 days, but the White House is adamant about ‘near-term and long-term consequences’

    http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2144600/white-house-threatens-beijing-consequences-militarising
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    Post by Guest Thu May 10, 2018 9:09 am

    Ćao ZTE

    China's ZTE may be first major casualty of trade war with US

    Company ceases sales and workers take naps after US bans American firms from selling hardware and software to the telecom equipment maker

    Lily Kuo
    Thu 10 May 2018 06.34 BST


    ZTE, one of the world’s largest telecom equipment makers, may be the first major casualty of a trade war brewing between China and the US.

    The Shenzhen-based company said it had ceased “major operating activities”, in a filing late on Wednesday to the Hong Kong stock exchange. The announcement comes less than a month after the US banned American firms from selling hardware and software to ZTE for seven years, effectively cutting off the company’s supply chain.

    ZTE said in its filing it maintains “sufficient cash” and is “actively communicating” with the US for a modification or reversal of the order, issued by the US commerce department over violations of a previous settlement regarding illegal sales of ZTE phones and equipment to Iran.


    ZTE, known in China as Zhongxing, or “China prospers”, operates in Africa, the Middle East and the US, where it is the fourth-largest smartphone maker after Apple, Samsung and LG. It depends on US parts: chips made from California-based Qualcomm account for more than half of its phones shipped globally and almost all of its phones in the US, according to Counterpoint.

    “The impact is huge. Without US providers, they cannot actually produce their phones,” said Flora Tang, a research analyst at Counterpoint Research in Hong Kong.

    On Thursday, online ZTE stores on its website and major e-commerce platforms were “under construction”. The company’s official channel on Tmall, owned by Alibaba, carried a photo of shirtless men rowing a dragon boat and the phrase “Spring is used for struggle”, a slogan Chinese president Xi Jinping once used in a speech in 2013.

    According to reports, workers at the company’s headquarters in Shenzhen are reporting to work but “with not much to do”. Factory workers told the New York Times manufacturing had been shuttered. Instead, workers have been attending training sessions, napping, or hanging out in their dormitories.

    ZTE products were still on sale on smaller e-commerce platforms such as JD.com, and in offline retail stores.

    The ban on ZTE, one of China’s first telecom companies to succeed internationally, is also a sign of how deeply entrenched frictions between the US and China are amid an ongoing trade dispute. China’s ministry of commerce said officials made “solemn representations” on behalf of ZTE during trade talks in Beijing last week with a visiting US delegation but they yielded few results.

    “It could be a national-level problem ... we expected the Chinese government would be able to help ZTE, so it’s a surprise,” said Tang.
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    Post by Zuper Sun May 13, 2018 5:52 pm

    Mozda za Britance, za njih je prilicno cao, ali ne tako brzo za ZTE,


    Donald J. Trump ✔️ @realDonaldTrump


    President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!
    5:01 PM - May 13, 2018


    Last month UK warned business not to use ZTE equipment or services as it would have a “long term negative effect on the security of the UK," and UK's Cyber security chief warned "the use of ZTE equipment or services would present risk to UK national security that could not be mitigated effectively or practicably."

    Tako ti je to kada si kolonija.

    Ovo mu dodje nesto slicno kao sa Rusalom. Malo se preti, pa se povuce, pa ce ponovo da se preti i tako do mid-term novembra zbog odredjenih usluga za rejting.
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    Post by Zuper Tue May 22, 2018 6:57 pm

    Senate panel overwhelmingly approves amendment blocking Trump on ZTE
    By Harper Neidig - 05/22/18 12:16 PM EDT


    A Senate panel on Tuesday rebuked President Trump's efforts to ease sanctions on the Chinese telecom firm ZTE, which the intelligence community and trade regulators have warned poses a national security risk for the U.S.
     
    The Senate Banking Committee approved an amendment in an overwhelming and bipartisan 23-2 vote that would block Trump from easing sanctions on ZTE without first certifying to Congress that the company is complying with U.S. law.
     
    The move comes the same day The Wall Street Journal reported that the Trump administration and China are closing in on a deal to ease off ZTE in exchange for trade concessions. That report raised concerns among lawmakers of both parties who have advocated for a crackdown on Chinese technology companies.
     
    “If the president and his team won’t follow through on tough sanctions against ZTE, it’s up to Congress to ensure that it happens," Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in a statement.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue May 22, 2018 7:18 pm

    Epizodista  Ћина-Средње Краљевство - Page 11 2304934895
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    Post by Zuper Tue May 22, 2018 8:01 pm

    To je veliki znak Kini. To moze biti pozitivno za neke druge zemlje...
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    Post by Zuper Tue May 22, 2018 9:01 pm

    Pokradose ih.

    SCHUMER: CHINA ROBBING U.S. OF WEALTH, NEED TO BE STRONG

    U stvari su oni iskoristili gomilu nesrecnih Kineza koji su radili za $100 mesecno 12 sati da bi dobili jeftine proizvode u SAD koji su smanjili inflaciju u SAD te omogucilo da luduju sa kreditima tj. kucama, automobilima...dok su ti Kinezi reciklari svoj trgovinski suficti kupujuci SAD drzavne obveznice tako finansirajuci SAD vojsku i socijalu...
    Kakva kradja epskih razmera.

    Nego Kinezi zele da prestanu da budu robovi, pokusavaju da razviju tehnologije("Napravljeno u Kini 2025"), e onda ih kradu jer ih ugrozavaju tehnoloski-produktivnost, vojska.

    Nece lako Kinezi to moci da odrade...
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu May 24, 2018 10:37 pm

    Prvi čovek Alibabe Džek Ma rekao je da su najgori radnici – siromašni ljudi.
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    Post by Xexoxical Endarchy Thu May 24, 2018 10:40 pm

    dzek mo(mirovic)


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    Post by Filipenko Thu May 24, 2018 11:09 pm

    Niko mu ne brani da na slobodnom trzistu radne snage angazuje bogate ljude da mu rade. Ћина-Средње Краљевство - Page 11 2304934895
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    Post by Erős Pista Thu May 24, 2018 11:20 pm

    Bloomberg Philanthropies.


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    Post by паће Thu May 24, 2018 11:57 pm

    William Murderface wrote:Bloomberg Philanthropies.

    Piling trophies?


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    Post by Zuper Tue May 29, 2018 2:46 pm


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