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    Post by rumbeando Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:33 pm

    Izgleda da je lagao o trenutnom poslodavcu.

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    Post by No Country Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:34 pm

    There we go…


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    Post by Јанош Винету Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:38 pm

    +1
    Пуца му прслук за Твитер. Нема елемената кривичног нити прекршајног дела.


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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:46 pm

    a sad nema ni posla.

    Janose, kako si tako naivan? Jedan tvit je kostao Kanje Vesta milijardu dolara, kako nece sjebati zivot ovog malog tockica u velikoj masini?


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by Јанош Винету Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:57 pm

    Их, нема посла, као да је смак света. Биће посла, не бој се.

    Мислим да нема смисла поредити Канјеа и овог типа, Канје је полулуди циркусант и ко зна шта ради. Изгубио је уговор са Најк-ом, после отишао код Адидаса.

    Па ако бисмо то гледали, највећа будала у универзуму је Џеф Безос који је због швалерације остао без 150 милијарди долара.


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    Post by plachkica Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:33 am

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    Post by Del Cap Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:52 am

    Mr. Seldowitz is a three-time winner of the State Department’s Superior Honor Award.
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    Post by disident Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:04 am

    No Country wrote:Добро је да су снимили магарчину. Сад ће да најебе како само од Твитера може.
    Kako biran i odmeren recnik, magarcinu, za (ex) funkcionera koji sa psihopatskim osmehom preti i maltretira radnika brze hrane, preti mu  kako ce mu tajna policija muciti roditelje, kako ce ga deportovati, i kako je 4000 pobijene palestinske dece malo, uvrede na racun islama necu ponavljati. Nista fasizam, rasizam, sadizam, nego eto, magarcina. 
    Kao da mu je ukrao bocu kecapa iz kaprica, pa eto magarcina


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    Post by No Country Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:10 am

    Дувај га лома.


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    Post by Јанош Винету Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:29 am

    Сад сам погледао. Мени је најјезивије кад га је питао јел зна шта је мухабхарат и како ће његовом оцу да ваде нокте из прстију. После више нисам могао да гледам.

    Проклети били сви ви који ово подржавате и релативизујете, браните и штитите.


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    Post by disident Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:35 am

    No Country wrote:Дувај га лома.
    Dobro su te dresirali, prava kmetina
    Zna kad da kevece, kad da sedne i gleda u stranu


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:36 am

    ne, najjezivije je kad ga pita hoce li da siluje svoju cerku, to je dno dnoovog dna
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    Post by Јанош Винету Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:43 am

    Ја сам огуглао на тај ниво исламофобије, то је и покојни Хиченс помињао између редова. Мени су ове конкретне претње много горе.

    Цела та екипа наводно слободоумних анти-религиозних индивидуа су заправо били моћна интелектуална клика апологета америчког империјализма и јеврејских квази-атеиста, али и они су проваљени и потрошени.

    Сем Харис вероватно отвара шампањце.


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    Post by No Country Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:56 am

    disident wrote:
    No Country wrote:Дувај га лома.
    Dobro su te dresirali, prava kmetina
    Zna kad da kevece, kad da sedne i gleda u stranu
    Ајде, мали, не сери.
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    Post by bemty Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:41 am

    breaking!

    Israel-Hamas war live: four-day ceasefire and release of 50 hostages held in Gaza agreed

    edit:

    ovaj link je bolji


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    Post by rumbeando Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:45 am

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    Post by Del Cap Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:58 pm

    Samo neki problemi

    BREAKING: Politico reports that there was 'some concern' inside the Biden Administration that an 'unintended consequence' of the humanitarian pause is that it would 'allow journalists broader access to Gaza' which could 'further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel'
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    Post by Tovar Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:10 pm

    Del Cap wrote:Samo neki problemi

    BREAKING: Politico reports that there was 'some concern' inside the Biden Administration that an 'unintended consequence' of the humanitarian pause is that it would 'allow journalists broader access to Gaza' which could 'further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel'

    Pa da. Nije IDF pobio tolike novinare (kontam da im je 'PRESS' na prsima odlična meta) da bi sad pustio kojekakve likove iz bjelosvjetskih medija da tek tako vršljaju okolo u inspekciji štete.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:52 pm

    Justice for Palestinians and Security for Israel


    By Bernie Sanders
    Nov. 22, 2023


    There have been five wars in the last 15 years between Israel and Hamas. How do we end the current one and prevent a sixth from happening, sooner or later? How do we balance our desire to stop the fighting with the need to address the roots of the conflict? For 75 years, diplomats, well-intentioned Israelis and Palestinians and government leaders around the world have struggled to bring peace to this region. In that time an Egyptian president and an Israeli prime minister were assassinated by extremists for their efforts to end the violence.


    And on and on it goes.


    For those of us who want not only to bring this war to end, but to avoid a future one, we must first be cleareyed about facts. On Oct. 7, Hamas, a terrorist organization, unleashed a barbaric attack against Israel, killing about 1,200 innocent men, women and children, and taking more than 200 hostages. On a per-capita basis, if Israel had the same population as the United States, that attack would have been the equivalent of nearly 40,000 deaths, more than 10 times the fatalities that we suffered on 9/11.


    Israel, in response, under the leadership of its right-wing prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, who is under indictment for corruption and whose cabinet includes outright racists, unleashed what amounts to total war against the Palestinian people. In Gaza, over 1.6 million Palestinians were forced out of their homes. Food, water, medical supplies and fuel were cut off. The United Nations estimates that 45 percent of the housing units in Gaza have been damaged or destroyed. According to the Gaza health ministry, more than 12,000 Palestinians, about half of whom are children, have been killed and many more wounded. And the situation becomes more dire every day.


    This is a humanitarian catastrophe that risks igniting a wider regional conflagration. We all want it to end as soon as possible. To make progress, however, we must grapple with the complexity of this situation that too many people on both sides want to wave away.


    First, Hamas has made it clear, before and after Oct. 7, that its goal is perpetual warfare and the destruction of the state of Israel. Just last week a spokesman for Hamas told The New York Times: “I hope that the state of war with Israel will become permanent on all the borders, and that the Arab world will stand with us.”


    Second, Israel has done nothing in recent years to give hope for a peaceful settlement — maintaining the blockade of Gaza, deepening the daily humiliations of occupation in the West Bank, and largely ignoring the horrendous living conditions facing Palestinians.


    Needless to say, I do not have all of the answers to this never-ending tragedy. But for those of us who believe in peace and justice, it is imperative that we do our best to provide Israelis and Palestinians with a thoughtful response that maps out a realistic path to addressing the reality we face today. Here are my thoughts as to the best way forward and how the United States can rally the world around a moral position that moves us toward peace in the region and justice for the oppressed Palestinian population.


    To start, we must demand an immediate end to Israel’s indiscriminate bombing, which is causing an enormous number of civilian casualties and is in violation of international law. Israel is at war with Hamas, not innocent Palestinian men, women and children. Israel cannot bomb an entire neighborhood to take out one Hamas target. We don’t know if this campaign has been effective in degrading Hamas’s military capabilities. But we do know that a reported 70 percent of the casualties are women and children, and that 104 U.N. aid workers and 53 journalists have been killed. That’s not acceptable.


    There must also be a significant, extended humanitarian pause so that badly needed aid — food, water, medicine and fuel — can get into Gaza and save lives. If Wednesday morning’s deal — in which 50 Israeli hostages are to be freed in exchange for a four-day pause in fighting — is honored, it is a promising first step that we can build upon, and hopefully work to extend the pause. Meanwhile, the United Nations must be given time to safely set up the distribution network needed to prevent thirst, starvation and disease, to build shelters and evacuate those who need critical care. This window will also allow for talks to free as many hostages as possible. This extended pause must not precede a resumption of indiscriminate bombing. Israel will continue to go after Hamas, but it must dramatically change its tactics to minimize civilian harm.


    If long-suffering Palestinians are ever going to have a chance at self-determination and a decent standard of living, there must be no long-term Israeli re-occupation and blockade of Gaza. If Hamas is going to be removed from power, as they must be, and Palestinians given the opportunity for a better life, an Israeli occupation of Gaza would be absolutely counterproductive and would benefit Hamas. For the sake of regional peace and a brighter future for the Palestinian people, Gaza must have a chance to be free of Hamas. There can be no long-term Israeli occupation.


    To achieve the political transformation that Gaza needs, new Palestinian leadership will be required as part of a wider political process. And for that transformation and peace process to take place, Israel must make certain political commitments that will allow for Palestinian leadership committed to peace to build support. They must guarantee displaced Palestinians the absolute right to return to their homes as Gaza rebuilds. People who have lived in poverty and despair for years cannot be made permanently homeless. Israel must also commit to end the killings of Palestinians in the West Bank and freeze settlements there as a first step toward permanently ending the occupation. Those steps will show that peace can deliver for the Palestinian people, hopefully giving the Palestinian Authority the legitimacy it needs to assume administrative control of Gaza, likely after an interim stabilization period under an international force.


    Finally, if Palestinians are to have any hope for a decent future, there must be a commitment to broad peace talks to advance a two-state solution in the wake of this war. The United States, the international community and Israel’s neighbors must move aggressively toward that goal. This would include dramatically increased international support for the Palestinian people, including from wealthy Gulf States. It would also mean the promise of full recognition of Palestine pending the formation of a new democratically elected government committed to peace with Israel.


    Let’s be clear: this is not going to happen on its own. Mr. Netanyahu’s Likud party was explicitly formed on the premise that “between the Sea and the Jordan [River] there will only be Israeli sovereignty,” and the current coalition agreement reinforces that goal. This is not just ideology. The Israeli government has systematically pursued this goal. The last year saw record Israeli settlement growth in the West Bank, where more than 700,000 Israelis now live in areas that the United Nations and the United States agree are occupied territories. They have used state violence to back up this de facto annexation. Since Oct. 7, the United Nations reports that at least 208 Palestinians, including 53 children, have been killed by Israeli security forces and settlers. This cannot be allowed to continue.


    Mr. Netanyahu has made clear where he stands on these critical issues. So should we. If asking nicely worked, we wouldn’t be in this position. The only way these necessary changes will happen is if the United States uses the substantial leverage we have with Israel. And we all know what that leverage is.


    For many years, the United States has provided Israel substantial sums of money — with close to no strings attached. Currently, we provide $3.8 billion a year. President Biden has asked for $14.3 billion more on top of that sum and asked Congress to waive normal, already-limited oversight rules. The blank check approach must end. The United States must make clear that while we are friends of Israel, there are conditions to that friendship and that we cannot be complicit in actions that violate international law and our own sense of decency. That includes an end to indiscriminate bombing; a significant pause to the bombing so that massive humanitarian assistance can come into the region; the right of displaced Gazans to return to their homes; no long-term Israeli occupation of Gaza; an end to settler violence in the West Bank and a freeze on settlement expansion; a commitment to broad peace talks for a two-state solution in the wake of the war.


    Over the years, people of good will around the world, including Israelis, have tried to address this conflict in a way that brings justice for Palestinians and security for Israel. I, and some other members of Congress, have tried to do what we could. Obviously, we did not do enough. Now we must recommit to this effort. The stakes are just too high to give up.


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    Post by Del Cap Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:08 pm

    The principle of human dignity must apply to all people

    Adam Tooze, Samuel Moyn, Amia Srinivasan and others respond to a statement issued by German academics on the situation in Israel and Gaza.

    Wed 22 Nov 2023 17.00 CET

    We the undersigned are deeply concerned by the statement “Principles of solidarity” published on the website of the Normative Orders research centre at Goethe-Universität Frankfurt on 13 November 2023, signed by Nicole Deitelhoff, Rainer Forst, Klaus Günther and Jürgen Habermas.

    We join the authors in condemning the killing and taking hostage of Israeli civilians by Hamas on 7 October 2023 and we fully agree with the vital need to protect Jewish life in Germany in the face of rising antisemitism. We also agree with the statement’s grounding of these positions in the respect for human dignity for all people as a central part of the “democratic ethos of the Federal Republic of Germany”.

    However, we are deeply troubled by the apparent limits of the solidarity expressed by the authors. The statement’s concern for human dignity is not adequately extended to Palestinian civilians in Gaza who are facing death and destruction. Nor is it applied or extended to Muslims in Germany experiencing rising Islamophobia. Solidarity means that the principle of human dignity must apply to all people. This requires us to recognise and address the suffering of all those affected by an armed conflict.

    The statement claims that “the standards of judgement slip completely when genocidal intentions are attributed to Israel’s actions”. There is ongoing discussion among genocide scholars and legal experts about whether the legal standard for genocide has been met. Human rights groups have filed lawsuits alleging genocide at the international criminal court and a federal court in the US. Omer Bartov, professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University, has recently reminded us: “We know from history that it is crucial to warn of the potential for genocide before it occurs, rather than belatedly condemn it after it has taken place. I think we still have that time.” Showing solidarity and respecting human dignity means that we must heed this warning and not close down the space for debate and reflection about the possibility of genocide. Not all signatories believe that the legal standards for genocide have been met; nevertheless, all agree that this is a matter of legitimate debate.

    The statement mentions three “guiding principles” for military action: “principles of proportionality, the prevention of civilian casualties and the waging of a war with the prospect for future peace”. We are concerned that there is no mention of upholding international law, which also prohibits war crimes and crimes against humanity such as collective punishment, persecution, and the destruction of civilian infrastructure including schools, hospitals and places of worship. Being guided by principles of international legal standards, solidarity and human dignity compels us to hold all participants in the conflict to this higher standard.

    We cannot allow the atrocities to force us to abandon these principles.

    Adam Tooze Professor of history, Columbia University
    Samuel Moyn Professor of law and history, Yale University
    Amia Srinivasan Professor of social and political theory, University of Oxford
    Nancy Fraser Professor of political and social science, New School for Social Research
    Alice Crary Professor of philosophy, New School for Social Research
    Linda Zerilli Charles E Merriam distinguished service professor of political science, University of Chicago
    Chandra Talpade Mohanty Distinguished professor, Syracuse University
    Diedrich Diederichsen Professor for theory of contemporary art, Academy of Fine Arts, Vienna
    Beate Roessler Professor of philosophy, University of Amsterdam
    Quinn Slobodian Professor of history, Wellesley College
    Cécile Malaspina Director of programme, Collège international de philosophie, France
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    Post by rumbeando Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:02 pm

    Uhapšen Seldovic, navodno ih je više nedelja maltretirao.

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    Post by rumbeando Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:19 pm

    Netanjahu je konačno dao nalog Mosadu da se napadaju lideri Hamasa bez obzira na to gde se nalaze.

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    Post by rumbeando Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:35 pm

    Fox News izgleda emitovao lažirano hapšenje.


    Ostatak teksta:
    However seconds pass, and the same person is seen returning and dressing comfortably, with the blindfold removed.
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    Post by No Country Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:40 pm

    rumbeando wrote:Uhapšen Seldovic, navodno ih je više nedelja maltretirao.

    Рекох ја, има вајде и од твиће. Ето му сада “it’s a free country… not like Egypt”.
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    Post by паће Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:11 pm

    То „free country“ ми увек некако у преводу дође „џаба ти и држава“.


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