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Erős Pista wrote:https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2020/may/culling-the-herd-a-modest-proposal

Ali to je ono zasto sam pisao da bi levica trebalo listom da stane uz lokdaune i da trazi da budu sto striktniji i sto duzi - sve dok se virus de facto ne iskoreni na nekom sirem prostoru (US, EU...). Prvo zato sto nema sumnje ko ce biti najveca zrtva virusa procentualno - najbogatiji sigurno nece. Drugo, zato sto to stvara ako ne zakonsku, a ono politicku obavezu drzave da vrsi preraspodelu bar u izvesnoj meri.

ma koliko bilo tacno sve zajedno sto se navodi u tekstu forma kospiroloskog senzacionalizma ovakvog uvida cini ovaj tekst vise necim sto estetski prapada srce tame topiku nego necim sto bi procitali na LRB-u. meni je funkcija ovakvog teksta potpuno nejasna, pogotovo na LRB-u.

Skidanje rukavica?

pa da al sta ce onda na LRB-u ? LRB citateljstvo uopste nije publika za ovo. ako oces stvarno da zakuvas stvar napravis viral od ovoga (a mozes & pritom je sve tacno u tekstu) - zna se kako se to radi, odes na daily mail i tamo pricu pokupi ko treba i spremna je za distribuciju.

ne ozbiljno, a ja sam mislio da mi ismevamo i generalno smatramo kontraproduktivnim ovakve zanrove ne samo zbog njihove fakticke neistinosti nego i zbog samog zanra, tj. forme ekstremnog redpillovanja.

Problem u traženju što dužeg zatvaranja je što većina ljudi mora da ide na posao i radi da bi primila platu i platila račune, i to je karta na koju se igra, normalnost od koje se teško odstupa.

disident wrote:Pareto,Moska i Mihles se u grobu prevrcu 

blueberry vrati disiju nalog !

Мени је доста занимљив овај класно-револуционарни занос, а у коме се истовремено јасно оцртава огроман презир према класи коју, из све снаге, заступаш. Помало подсећа на концепт авангарде пролетеријата...

Gde se tacno ocrtava?

Па у једно пола текста. Нпр:

Not only did this render the herd more submissive, it created a feeling of narcissistic superiority that helped its members accept the drastic loss of long-established rights. The master class, which had lived in fear of herd uprisings until it quelled the rebellions of the 1960s, was amazed at how easily the herd gave up the belief that it was entitled to jobs, housing and good schools. Also helpful, as with poultry and cattle, was the use of drugs (heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine). Most fundamental, however, was convincing the masses that they had little or no right to medical care. 

The intense anxiety at the level of ontological security that this produced was numbed by the force-feeding of credit, entertainment and consumer goods. The herd became fatter, more submissive and less curious, even as the use of whips, prods and mutilation continued. To the softening of their basic ‘species-being’ was added insensitivity to the suffering of others. The massacre of Muslims and Mexicans went along with the destruction of social ties in the process of domestication.

Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:Problem u traženju što dužeg zatvaranja je što većina ljudi mora da ide na posao i radi da bi primila platu i platila račune, i to je karta na koju se igra, normalnost od koje se teško odstupa.

Da, ali ako npr. 60% ne moze da placa racune onda je to nesto drugo tj nesto mora malo drasticnije da se menja. Ista ona fora - bankrot 100 ljudi je poso za sud, bankrot 100 miliona je posao za parlament. Plus time jaca, neminovno, lagitimnost uloge drzave u svojinskim i sirim ekonomskim odnosima, sto je za levicu plus.

No Country wrote:Па у једно пола текста. Нпр:

Not only did this render the herd more submissive, it created a feeling of narcissistic superiority that helped its members accept the drastic loss of long-established rights. The master class, which had lived in fear of herd uprisings until it quelled the rebellions of the 1960s, was amazed at how easily the herd gave up the belief that it was entitled to jobs, housing and good schools. Also helpful, as with poultry and cattle, was the use of drugs (heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine). Most fundamental, however, was convincing the masses that they had little or no right to medical care. 

The intense anxiety at the level of ontological security that this produced was numbed by the force-feeding of credit, entertainment and consumer goods. The herd became fatter, more submissive and less curious, even as the use of whips, prods and mutilation continued. To the softening of their basic ‘species-being’ was added insensitivity to the suffering of others. The massacre of Muslims and Mexicans went along with the destruction of social ties in the process of domestication.

Nesto ti tu pogresno citas. Ovi termini se ovde koriste tongue in cheek

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