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Post by Gargamel on Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:38 am

Filipenko wrote:Sada mi je jasno zasto me tolike baze Rusije po Kosovu, Bosni, Bugarskoj, Rumuniji, Poljskoj i drugim mestima, te uporno, agresivno cackanje mecke na Florida Keys ostrvima gde svojim nosacima aviona permanentno stacioniranim u sirem regionu Kube zabranjuju da brodovi izlaze iz meksickog zaliva, teraju da se osecam ugrozeno.
Facts, or what a man believes to be facts, are always delightful. That mathematical fellow believed in his facts. So do I. Get your facts first, and then you can distort ’em as much as you please. - Mark Twain
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Post by disident on Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:59 am

Nikako da okacim ovaj tekst

DS: You know, we—we are an empire. And I’m going to explain why, and then I’m going to talk about Trump a little. I have a complex relationship with my old commander in chief, my old chum. You know, we have 800 military bases in 80 countries; on any given day, we are bombing at least seven countries, some days more, if there’s something going on in Africa. We have a defense budget as large as the next seven countries’ combined. We have, you know, the majority of the world’s aircraft carriers, 10 times more than the Russians and the Chinese. We have divided the planet into regional commands—CENTCOM, Northcom, Southcom—where our four-star generals in charge of these commands are essentially Roman proconsuls, right? Ruling over—and much more powerful than our diplomats. Our diplomats are not taken seriously anymore; it’s the military that gets the business done. And you know, finally, we are unique. We are exceptional. Exceptional in the sense that we are the most imperial of all the places on the planet. Because there are 77 total foreign bases split between all the other 200 countries of the world, and we have some 800. So yes, certainly, we’re are an empire, by any stretch of the imagination. Now, our people, ironically, like to think we’re not. But you’re right that people are becoming a little more open to that. Now, Trump is—I think you’re correct—the reason why people are starting to accept that we might be an empire. But I would argue that Trump is not such an anomaly. He is a man for his times. You know, the question you have to ask in America, when it comes to the popularity contest that we call the presidential election every four years—that entertaining bit, right, of the blue team and the red team–you have two choices. And you will always have two choices. And the choice in the two major parties is between, do you like coarse emperors? Do you want your empire to be coarse and absurd and a little bit buffoonish? Or do you like your empire and your emperors to be polite? Because Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would have been polite emperors. But the reality is, if anything, Donald Trump questions the empire at times—doesn’t always follow through—more than a Barack Obama, more than a Hillary Clinton or a George W. Bush or a Bill Clinton, for that matter. I mean, the question is not whether we’re an empire; it’s how do you like your imperialism? And you have two choices. Well, “liberal,” in quotes, society prefers polite emperors. And so they try to get them elected, and they can’t accept that a coarse emperor, like Donald Trump, is currently in charge.


https://www.truthdig.com/articles/all-americans-have-blood-on-their-hands/


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Post by паће on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:09 am

Е нека им је реко. Ал' ту помоћи нема, такве нико не слуша, превише кошта то витлање мачевима, неће ваљда сад да пусте да им пропадне уложено.

Сачекати да се уруши под сопственом тежином.


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Post by Quincy Endicott on Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:31 pm

Krenuli polako da pakuju Irancima?


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Post by Gargantua on Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:43 pm

#BREAKING: US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blames Iran for an attack on two tankers in the Gulf of Oman. https://t.co/IkOk7nKexV
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Post by Gargantua on Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:48 pm

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday that intelligence reviewed by American officials showed that Iran was responsible for attacks on two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, a critical waterway for the transit of much of the world’s petroleum.

Mr. Pompeo did not present any evidence of Iran’s involvement when announcing the findings at a news conference in Washington. The assertion is certain to fuel tensions between the Trump administration and Iranian leaders that have increased since early May, when the White House announced military movements in response to what American officials have said is a heightened threat from Iran.

Mr. Pompeo said the sabotage against the two tankers was only the latest in a series of recent violent acts by Iran.

“Taken as a whole, these unprovoked attacks present a clear threat to international peace and security,” he said.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/us/politics/oil-tanker-attack-pompeo.html
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Post by паће on Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:01 pm

Прошли пут су још и нашли нешто као поштену војничину да маше папирима на СБ... овог пута је свима јасно да су докази исфабриковани као и сваки пут досад.


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Post by MNE on Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:03 pm

šta fali starim dobrim hemijskim napadima?
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Post by паће on Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:30 pm

Па немају фактуре из времена кад су им продавали оружје, као у случају Ирака.


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Post by Sotir on Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:42 pm

Заправо најреалнији сценарио ми се чини као заплет из неког старијег Џемс Бонда, неки тајкун/ултратајна организација футуристичким оружјем прави срања у кризним подручјима, како би изазвала економске потресе и себи намакла фине паре. Руски тајкун би се сасвим лепо уклопио у тренутно стање.
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Post by Gargantua on Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:54 pm

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Post by Creepy Uncle on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:43 pm

mic po mic, miroljubivi izolacionista Tramp uvlači SAD u rat kakav nije vođen od Indokine.
ovo sa tankerima je otprilike najprovidnija operacija ikad. kao da ih uopšte ne zanima plauzibilnost iranskog napada na tankere usred razgovora sa Abeom.


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Post by MNE on Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:07 am

Sotir wrote:Заправо најреалнији сценарио ми се чини као заплет из неког старијег Џемс Бонда, неки тајкун/ултратајна организација футуристичким оружјем прави срања у кризним подручјима, како би изазвала економске потресе и себи намакла фине паре. Руски тајкун би се сасвим лепо уклопио у тренутно стање.
skupa nafta odgovara američkim i ruskim naftašima a bgm i Saudima i Irancima, why not play a game?  USA - США - SAD 2952840586
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Post by William Murderface on Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:09 am

Creepy Uncle wrote:mic po mic, miroljubivi izolacionista Tramp uvlači SAD u rat kakav nije vođen od Indokine.
ovo sa tankerima je otprilike najprovidnija operacija ikad. kao da ih uopšte ne zanima plauzibilnost iranskog napada na tankere usred razgovora sa Abeom.


Pozdan nacin da se dobije drugi mandat. Jebo single payer dok nasi momci krvare u Iranu.


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Post by KinderLad on Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:50 am

Nad Iranom
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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:34 am


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eee nekad se znalo kako se to radi, nije se sve raspadalo u roku od jednog dana...
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Post by Gargantua on Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:05 pm

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Post by Gargantua on Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:44 am

U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid


WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

Advocates of the more aggressive strategy said it was long overdue, after years of public warnings from the Department of Homeland Security and the F.B.I. that Russia has inserted malware that could sabotage American power plants, oil and gas pipelines, or water supplies in any future conflict with the United States.

But it also carries significant risk of escalating the daily digital Cold War between Washington and Moscow.

The administration declined to describe specific actions it was taking under the new authorities, which were granted separately by the White House and Congress last year to United States Cyber Command, the arm of the Pentagon that runs the military’s offensive and defensive operations in the online world.

But in a public appearance on Tuesday, President Trump’s national security adviser, John R. Bolton, said the United States was now taking a broader view of potential digital targets as part of an effort “to say to Russia, or anybody else that’s engaged in cyberoperations against us, ‘You will pay a price.’”

Power grids have been a low-intensity battleground for years.

Since at least 2012, current and former officials say, the United States has put reconnaissance probes into the control systems of the Russian electric grid.


But now the American strategy has shifted more toward offense, officials say, with the placement of potentially crippling malware inside the Russian system at a depth and with an aggressiveness that had never been tried before. It is intended partly as a warning, and partly to be poised to conduct cyberstrikes if a major conflict broke out between Washington and Moscow.

The commander of United States Cyber Command, Gen. Paul M. Nakasone, has been outspoken about the need to “defend forward” deep in an adversary’s networks to demonstrate that the United States will respond to the barrage of online attacks aimed at it.

“They don’t fear us,” he told the Senate a year ago during his confirmation hearings.

Speaking on Tuesday at a conference sponsored by The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Bolton said: “We thought the response in cyberspace against electoral meddling was the highest priority last year, and so that’s what we focused on. But we’re now opening the aperture, broadening the areas we’re prepared to act in.”

He added, referring to nations targeted by American digital operations, “We will impose costs on you until you get the point.”

Two administration officials said they believed Mr. Trump had not been briefed in any detail about the steps to place “implants” — software code that can be used for surveillance or attack — inside the Russian grid.

Pentagon and intelligence officials described broad hesitation to go into detail with Mr. Trump about operations against Russia for concern over his reaction — and the possibility that he might countermand it or discuss it with foreign officials, as he did in 2017 when he mentioned a sensitive operation in Syria to the Russian foreign minister.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/us/politics/trump-cyber-russia-grid.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


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Post by KinderLad on Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:55 am

Ili masno laze ili ga prosto niko ne konstatuje po tom pitanju
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Post by Filipenko on Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:24 am

Ili je nemocan, pa ne sme da hapsi izdajnike i narodne neprijatelje iz Padajuceg Njujork Tajmsa. USA - США - SAD 2952840586
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Post by KinderLad on Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:57 am

Morao bi prvo da uhapsi Boltona, sto ce malo teze ici, a i sam ga je doveo.
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Post by Filipenko on Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:24 pm

Sto bi morao? Zapravo bi bilo idealno da lomi kola na sitnim krestavim ribama.
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Post by kud_genijalci on Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:41 am

It feels as if half the Democratic Party is running for the White House. In fact, it’s only 23 people, officially.

Izveštaj lekarskog konzilijuma o stanju zdravlja druga Sandersa najviše zanima sve "praksisovce i fubrajtovce", ante-markovićevce, simpatizere Staneta Dolanca i Georga Šoroša i nosioce diplome informatičara sa evropske više pkole u Ploeštiju i Temišvaru i Segedinu. I bivše članove Građanskog saveza.

Hilari se za sada ne kandiduje, ali ima vremena. Možda se Klobučarova umeša i zaprži ćorbu Bajdenu.

Sanders je u jednoj epizodi kod Kolberta u jednoj od prvih Late showouva dobro na gradele okrenut, kada je tipičnu levičarsku žvaku iz 1980-ih pokušao da proda, o velikom procentu bogatstva u rukama malog procenata bogataša, tako su učeni KGb spavači još od šezdesetih. A Kolbert ga zapravo vadi iz bule "ne bih želeo s njim da delim račun u kafani!" 

Ipak, Sanders tamo a Bota i Đilas ovde pa sve ispočetka.


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Post by паће on Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:17 am

kud_genijalci wrote:... Georga Šoroša ...

Георга, Жоржа, Хорхеа, Џорџа или Ђерђа, питање је сад.

Задужбина је свакако захвална на исправно написаном презимену. Доста им је, веле, несврстаности, да једно с буде с а друго с да буде ш, ни тамо ни овамо.


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