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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:38 pm

    Ponekad pomislim, pa mi smo jos i super jbt. Retko, ali cesce nego ranije.


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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:02 am

    Danilo Toninelli, the transport minister, said on Wednesday that the top level of Autostrade per l’Italia “must step down first of all”. He told RAI television the government intended to cancel its deal to manage the A10 toll motorway connecting Genoa to the French border.

    “I have given mandate to my ministry to start all proceedings to apply the agreement, that is to revoke the concession from these companies and seek significant sanctions.”

    The deputy prime minister, Luigi Di Maio, said in a Facebook post on Wednesday: “Those responsible for the tragedy in Genoa have a name and a surname, and they’re called Autostrade per l’Italia. For years it’s been said that private management would be better than that of the state.

    “And so today, we have one of the biggest dealers in Europe telling us that the bridge was safe and there was no worry of it collapsing. Autostrade had to maintain it but didn’t. It takes the highest road tolls in Europe and pays low taxes, moreover in Luxembourg.”

    The interior minister, Matteo Salvini, said earlier on Wednesday that those responsible would “pay, pay everything, and pay dearly”.

    A criminal inquiry into the collapse has been announced.
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    Post by beatakeshi Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:46 pm

    Slušao sam danas izveštaj na radio Beogradu od dopisnice iz Italije: petlja je bila duskutabilna još kada je napravljena, bilo je puno opomena tokom decenija, a pre 2 godine neki ugledni đenovljanski građevinar im je rekao da to vrlo lako može da se sruši.
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    Post by Mr.Pink Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:49 pm

    pa ti davaj u rentu autoput privatniku


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    Post by ♏ Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:59 am

    Nisam prešao ovaj most kad sam bio u Đenovi, sišao sam u grad ranije, a popeo se nazad na autostradu kod aerodroma, sad mi nekako žao.

    Vidim da imaju isprojektovano 60% nove obilaznice, nije ni čudo da je još nisu uradili, sve u tunelima, kapiram da košta kao osrednji kosmodrom.
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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:33 am

    Meni je ovo, kao i onaj užas sa Grenfelom, znak da navodno razvijene zapadne zemlje počinju sve više da liče na failed states. Dobro, Italija je Italija, sa sve endemskom korupcijom i muljanjem, ali ovo je ipak katastrofa i najava mnogo gorih stvari koje nas očekuju. Neki sasvim bazični sistemi javne kontrole prestju da funkcionišu.


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    Post by паће Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:48 am

    Почели да изостављају средњи део из крадуцкања, видели да се ништа не догађа, дали гас.


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    Post by Erős Pista Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:56 pm

    Upravo tako.


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:28 am

    ne znam gde ovo da turim

    http://www.politika.rs/scc/clanak/409352/Poster-Marine-Abramovic-na-udaru-italijanske-desnice


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    Post by Filipenko Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:36 am

    Ja znam gde ovo. Na njen profil i trolovati / prozivati je do besomučnosti.  EU  - what's next? - Page 16 29297947


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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:06 pm

    Austria’s far-right ordered a raid on its own intelligence service. Now allies are freezing the country out.
    By Souad Mekhennet, Griff Witte

    August 17, 2018 at 6:27 PM


    VIENNA —The raids came without warning, surprising even the intelligence operatives whose job is to never be caught off guard.

    On the morning of Feb. 28, police stormed offices of Austria’s main domestic intelligence agency and carted off some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets in open crates and plastic bags. Top spy service officials working from home that day were greeted by officers threatening to break down their doors.

    The extraordinary decision to target the agency responsible for defending the country from a multitude of threats, including right-wing extremism, had been made by the service’s new bosses: members of the far-right Freedom Party.

    The reason? Defending the totalitarian North Korean regime from an Austrian espionage operation, among others cited in the search warrant. Critics saw absurd pretext for a politically motivated stab at an independent institution that could threaten the party’s agenda.

    Five months later, the impact continues to ripple across this central European nation of 9 million — and far beyond.

    In a country whose geopolitical positioning between East and West has long made it a nest of spies — “a playground for all nations” in the words of one Austrian intelligence veteran — the hometown service has been left in disarray.

    “It’s paralysis,” the veteran said. “How could you work in such an environment?”

    Intelligence services across the West, meanwhile, have looked on in dismay — and have chosen to protect their own secrets by freezing Austria out.

    “We used to have very deep and good cooperation,” said a top European intelligence official, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak frankly. “But since the raids, we have stopped sharing highly sensitive information. We’re worried it might get into the wrong hands.”

    The raids and their aftermath reflect a messy emerging reality across Europe as parties once relegated to the fringes move to the center of power.

    In Greece, Italy, Poland, Hungary and Austria, anti-establishment parties with positions on either the far left or far right have taken hold of governments, either in whole or in part. Many are closely linked to Russia, and some have ties to extremist groups that have been associated with violence.

    A place in government gives these parties control of influential state institutions that are supposed to be above politics, including the courts, military and intelligence agencies.

    But as Austria has shown, those theoretically independent institutions are vulnerable to political meddling — or at least the appearance of it. In the trust-is-everything realm of intelligence work, that raises tricky questions for allies, which must decide whether they can risk continued cooperation.

    Russia ties

    The Freedom Party came to power in Austria at the end of last year as the junior partner in a coalition with the center-right. The party was founded by former SS officers in the 1950s, and has ridden anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric to new heights of popularity in recent years. Some of its members have been revealed to share a nostalgia for Hitler’s Third Reich.

    The party has a formal cooperation agreement with President Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party, and the close ties show. Austria was a notable holdout when European Union nations banded together in March to expel Russian diplomats to protest the poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal. Top Austrian officials, meanwhile, have spoken out against the E.U.’s Russian sanctions. On Saturday, Putin is expected to be a guest of honor when Austria’s foreign minister, the Freedom Party-allied Karin Kneissl, gets married.

    The Freedom Party had been in government before, in the early 2000s. But this is the first time it has been given control of the highly coveted Interior Ministry, which is responsible for law and order in Austria and is home to the country’s main domestic intelligence agency, known as the BVT.

    Among the BVT’s work in recent years has been sniffing out Russian influence, notably attempts at election interference. The agency also has tracked Islamist extremists and investigated the activities of violent far-right groups, including Islamophobic and anti-Semitic hate crimes. Much of that work requires cross-border cooperation, especially with European allies.

    Information from those investigations, among many others, was among the troves of intelligence seized by police in the February raid.

    To critics, the raids were nothing less than an attempt to quash intelligence work that ran counter to the party’s interests.

    “Your actions intimidated those officials who are supposed to fight the extremist right,” Christian Kern, a former center-left chancellor, told Interior Minister Herbert Kickl during a parliamentary debate. “It’s a signal that will embolden the rightist scene.”

    The Interior Ministry declined an interview request. But Kickl and his allies have publicly defended the raids, noting that a state prosecutor had sought a warrant and that a judge signed off on it. Seized documents were turned over by the police directly to the prosecutor.

    The raids, he said, were in line with the rule of law. “It’s time we turn to the facts and leave aside the conspiracy theories,” Kickl said.

    The search warrant cites several prosaic reasons for the raids, including an alleged failure by the intelligence agencies to properly discard information that had been slated for deletion.

    But it also includes more-fanciful justifications. Among them: Several top agency officials had worked with the South Korean government on an espionage operation to obtain blank North Korean passports, which were being printed in Austria.

    The victim of the supposed crime? Kim Jong Un’s murderous regime.

    The raids are now the subject of legal action, with a court scheduled to decide within days whether the operation was legal and proportionate. A parliamentary inquiry, meanwhile, is to begin next month.

    Several people familiar with the matter said they don’t necessarily agree with the most sinister interpretation of the raid — that the Freedom Party was carrying out a grand plan to seize intelligence and scuttle investigations.

    But they also said they believe the party was using flimsy pretexts in a clumsy attempt to put its stamp on the agency and install loyalists in top jobs. A number of senior intelligence officials were fired or suspended in the raid’s aftermath. Various reasons were given, including keeping sensitive documents at home.

    “They tried to change the system with force, and they ended up destroying it,” one agency insider said. “Do you know of any other intelligence service where the prosecutor can go and seize all the communications data? Can seize the files of ongoing cases? Can seize data from foreign services?”

    'Alarms are going off'

    Those foreign services have responded by pulling back. Although Austria is officially neutral and sits outside of NATO, it is a member of the European Union and has historically had close intelligence-sharing relationships with Western allies.

    “The alarms are going off,” one senior European intelligence official said. “What happened in Austria reminds me of what autocrats would do.”

    A senior Western intelligence official said it was not only allies who had stopped sharing with Austria but also the other way around.

    “The Austrians no longer call or reach out as they used to before,” the official said. “Maybe because it’s chaos in their house or because they are ashamed about what happened.”

    Both the Freedom Party and its partner, the center-right People’s Party of Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, campaigned for office last year vowing to get tough on immigration and crack down on Islamists.

    But the weakening of the BVT could compromise efforts to keep the country safe from extremist attacks, a core mission of the agency.

    So far, however, the government is not paying a price for that possibility. Both parties remain broadly popular, and they have managed to keep the intelligence agency scandal out of the limelight by maintaining their focus on Islam. Deft at public relations, the parties have floated several largely symbolic initiatives, including burqa bans and prohibitions on halal meat.

    On the day this past spring when opposition parties called a news conference to discuss the BVT raids, the government immediately countered with its own news conference to announce the closure of several allegedly extremist mosques. (The mosques have since reopened.)

    “The government is trying to perform politics on the back of Muslim society, which leads to anger and fear and hate,” said Ramazan Demir, a leader of the Islamic Religious Community in Austria, an umbrella group for the country’s roughly 700,000 Muslims. “A big part of Austrian society already fears Islam. This way of doing politics doesn’t help.”

    To some, the focus on Islamist extremism also distracts from other threats, including anti-Semitism among non-Muslims.

    “I have never experienced an anti-Semitic threat from Muslims in Austria,” said Schlomo Hofmeister, a Vienna-based rabbi for the country’s small Jewish community. “But I receive every week threats from right-wing Austrians.”

    Roman Haider, a veteran Freedom Party official who was made available by the party in response to interview requests, declined to discuss the raid on the BVT. But he was eager to talk about what he described as a real threat to Austria: the disappearance of pork from school lunchrooms, allegedly in deference to pious Muslims.

    “This is our society. This is our culture,” he said. “In our schools, pork should be served.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/austrias-far-right-government-ordered-a-raid-on-its-own-intelligence-service-now-allies-are-freezing-the-country-out/2018/08/17/d20090fc-9985-11e8-b55e-5002300ef004_story.html?noredirect=on&__twitter_impression=true
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    Post by Filipenko Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:05 am

    Kada levica neće, ima ko hoće. Lično sam pobornik racija, revizija, disciplinovanja, pa čak i raspuštanja tajnovitih bezbednosnih službi kakvih na zapadu ima koliko duša ište, ali ko jebe levicu kada im kliče dok desnica rovari kako i koliko želi.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:10 am

    German FM: EU needs payment systems independent of US to keep Iran deal alive



    Europe needs to set up payment systems independent of the United States if it wants to save the nuclear deal between Iran and major powers that was abandoned by President Donald Trump, German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas has said.

    He wrote in the Handelsblatt business daily: “It is indispensable that we strengthen European autonomy by creating payment channels that are independent of the United States, a European Monetary Fund and an independent SWIFT system.”

    The Belgium-based SWIFT global payment network that facilitates the bulk of the world’s cross-border transactions shut out Iran in 2012 after the United States and EU agreed to impose sanctions on the Islamic Republic over its nuclear activities.

    The 2015 agreement between Iran and world powers lifted international sanctions. In return, Iran agreed to restrictions on its nuclear activities, increasing the time it would need to produce an atom bomb if it chose to do so. It has long denied having any such intent.

    When Donald Trump withdrew from the agreement in early May he reimposed “the highest level of economic sanctions.” The US government has also demanded that businesses in allied states discontinue all dealings with Iran.

    The US approach has been effective: banks operating in Iran have started to close their operations and withdraw funds back to their states of origin. So far no EU or US bank has declared itself willing to take on Iranian business, leading calls for an institution to step forward and make investments into the troubled country.

    Amid the turbulence, Maas wants to consider the opportunity of expanding Europe’s fiscal independence from the US with a view to making new investments into Iran.

    However, many European firms are wary of far-reaching U.S. financial penalties despite Iran’s pleas to Europe this week to speed up efforts to salvage the nuclear accord after French oil group Total formally pulled out of a major gas project.

    The EU has vowed to counter Trump’s renewed sanctions on Iran, including by means of a new law to shield European companies from punitive measures.

    “Every day the deal is alive is better than the highly explosive crisis that would otherwise threaten the Middle East,” he added in the article published on Wednesday (22 August).
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    Post by паће Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:02 pm

    И да се сваки становник ЕУ зове Име Корисника, добра идеја.


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    Post by ♏ Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:50 am

    Možda bolje ovde nego dole negde na Sportu...

    bbc.com wrote:Former Juventus midfielder Rolando Mandragora has been suspended for one Serie A game after he was caught on television cameras shouting "Porca Madonna, Vaffanculo, Dio Cane", an insult to the Virgin Mary, while also referring to God as a dog.

    The outburst from the Italy international came after Sampdoria goalkeeper Emil Eudero saved his shot in a game which Mandragora's side, Udinese, won 1-0.

    The remarks initially went unnoticed by officials during the match, but the Lega Serie A - the competition's governing body - later took the incident to review and suspended the 21-year-old.

    "After acquiring and examining the relevant television images, the player, while cursing without referring to anybody around him, was nevertheless clearly seen by the television images to make blasphemous remarks, visibly identifiable from reading his lips without any margin for reasonable doubt," a disciplinary report from the Lega Serie A said.

    Mandragora, who won the Serie A and Italian Cup with Juventus in 2017, has spent last season on loan to Crotone before signing for Udinese last month. He has one cap for Italy.

    "Mandragora is a good person, the most he deserved was a warning," said Udinese coach Daniele Prade.

    There is a strict ban on taking God's name in vain in Italy, and since 2010, the country's football association has disciplined players and coaches heard doing so.

    Former Juventus captain Gianluigi Buffon has been forced to apologise in the past for uttering the word "Dio" (God). Although, he did once claim that he had in fact said "Zio" - which means uncle.

    "I apologise. If one day I will have the good fortune to meet God, he will be the one to decide whether to forgive me," Buffon said at the time.

    Two years ago, Italy rugby captain Sergio Parisse was forced to apologise after being filmed uttering a blasphemous phrase before a Six Nations game against France.

    And, according to the Italian FA's rules, players who wear t-shirts with personal messages to their family, or which make a reference to their religious beliefs, will also be punished.

    It's not unusual for European countries have blasphemy laws on the statute book, but it is rare that they are invoked.

    Katoličko-inkviziciona kseonofobna kloaka u kojoj padaju mostovi i kriminalizuje se vakcinacija, to vam je sad ta kao Italija.
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    Post by паће Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:45 pm

    И СФРЈ је ретко потезала члан 33 о вербалном деликту, ал' само постојање тог члана је било довољно да нас прогласе за диктатуру, јер јеботе слобода говора.


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    Post by Zuper Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:54 pm

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    Hteo sam tzv. pilote da stavim sa istom temom ali vise cenim istinske srpske junake.
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    Post by Guest Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:52 pm

    Večeras ovo vidio u Globusz na RTV2.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:53 pm

    Poslanik vladajuće Slobodarske partije Austrije Rajnhard Beš predložio je, zarad suzbijanja ilegalne migracije u Evropu, "zaposedanje" teritorije u Africi.

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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:55 pm

    Nemoguće. Profesor Lompar je objasnio da nova evropska desnica nije ekspanzionistička, samo štiti svoj identitet...


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:59 pm

    Pa i Römertum je nekakav identitet  EU  - what's next? - Page 16 1861198401
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    Hteo sam tzv. pilote da stavim sa istom temom ali vise cenim istinske srpske junake.


    hehe nisam vido ovo, kurci se i hvali lik kojeg je poslala zemlja u kojoj se infrastruktura bukvalno rusi i raspada zbog sveopsteg raspada

    preporuka je inace da se ne koristi ovaj most ko bas jako nije u obavezi
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