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    Sky News Australia has uncovered an official Chinese Academy of Sciences video from May 2017, marking the launch of the new biosafety-level-4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Perhaps the most intriguing revelation in the video is the depiction of bats being held in a cage at the Institute, along with a scene of a scientist feeding a bat with a worm.
    For much of 2020, Peter Daszak — president of EcoHealth Alliance, longtime partner of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and one of the most staunch and outspoken critics of the lab-leak theory — insisted that there were no live bats within the Institute. He tweeted in December that, “No BATS ‘were sent to Wuhan lab for genetic analyses of viruses collected in the field’ That’s not how this science works. We collect bat samples, send them to the lab. We RELEASE bats where we catch them!” At some point, Daszak deleted his tweets making that assertion, but if he ever publicly admitted he was wrong, he was awfully quiet about it.
    The counterevidence for Daszak’s claim has been piling up for a while now, even before this video.


    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/yup-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology-kept-live-bats-within-its-walls/
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    Post by MNE Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:13 pm

    ne mora da znači da je virus vještački ako su testirali na šišmišu, ali indikativno je da su lagali
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:44 pm

    Samo je bitno da se otkrije istina.  Lab Leak Theory 1844795956


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    Post by MNE Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:54 pm

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    Post by Del Cap Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:15 am

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/world/asia/china-covid-wuhan-lab-leak.html

    China’s ‘Bat Woman,’ at the Center of a Pandemic Storm, Speaks Out

    Shi Zhengli, a top virologist, said in a rare interview that speculation about her lab in Wuhan was baseless. But China’s habitual secrecy makes her claims hard to validate.

    June 14, 2021


    To a growing chorus of American politicians and scientists, she is the key to whether the world will ever learn if the virus behind the devastating Covid-19 pandemic escaped from a Chinese lab. To the Chinese government and public, she is a hero of the country’s success in curbing the epidemic and a victim of malicious conspiracy theories.

    Shi Zhengli, a top Chinese virologist, is once again at the center of clashing narratives about her research on coronaviruses at a state lab in Wuhan, the city where the pandemic first emerged.

    The idea that the virus may have escaped from a lab had long been widely dismissed by scientists as implausible and shunned by others for its connection with former President Donald J. Trump. But fresh scrutiny from the Biden administration and calls for greater candor from prominent scientists have brought the theory back to the fore.

    Scientists generally agree that there is still no direct evidence to support the lab leak theory. But more of them now say that the hypothesis was dismissed too hastily, without a thorough investigation, and they point to a range of unsettling questions.

    Some scientists say Dr. Shi conducted risky experiments with bat coronaviruses in labs that were not safe enough. Others want clarity on reports, citing American intelligence, suggesting that there were early infections of Covid-19 among several employees of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Dr. Shi has denied these accusations, and now finds herself defending the reputation of her lab and, by extension, that of her country. Reached on her cellphone last week, Dr. Shi said at first that she preferred not to speak directly with reporters, citing her institute’s policies. Yet she could barely contain her frustration.

    “How on earth can I offer up evidence for something where there is no evidence?” she said, her voice rising in anger during the brief, unscheduled conversation. “I don’t know how the world has come to this, constantly pouring filth on an innocent scientist,” she wrote in a text message.

    In a rare interview over email, she denounced the suspicions as baseless, including the allegations that several of her colleagues may have been ill before the outbreak emerged.

    The speculation boils down to one central question: Did Dr. Shi’s lab hold any source of the new coronavirus before the pandemic erupted? Dr. Shi’s answer is an emphatic no.

    But China’s refusal to allow an independent investigation into her lab, or to share data on its research, make it difficult to validate Dr. Shi’s claims and has only fueled nagging suspicions about how the pandemic could have taken hold in the same city that hosts an institute known for its work on bat coronaviruses.

    Those in favor of the natural origins hypothesis, though, have pointed to Wuhan’s role as a major transportation hub as well as a recent study that showed that just before the pandemic hit, the city’s markets were selling many animal species capable of harboring dangerous pathogens that could jump to humans.

    The Chinese government has given no appearance of holding Dr. Shi under suspicion. Despite the international scrutiny, she seems to have been able to continue her research and give lectures in China.

    The stakes in this debate extend into how scientists study infectious diseases. Some scientists have cited the lab leak scenario in pushing for greater scrutiny of “gain of function” experiments that, broadly defined, are intended to make pathogens more powerful to better understand their behavior and risks.

    Many scientists say they want the hunt for the virus’s origins to transcend politics, borders and individual scientific achievements.

    “This has nothing to do with fault or guilt,” said David Relman, a microbiologist at Stanford University and co-author of a recent letter in the journal Science, signed by 18 scientists, that called for a transparent investigation into all viable scenarios, including a lab leak. The letter urged labs and health agencies to open their records to the public.

    “It’s just bigger than any one scientist or institute or any one country — anybody anywhere who has data of this sort needs to put it out there,” Dr. Relman said.

    ‘Transparency matters.’

    Many virologists maintain that the coronavirus most likely jumped from an animal to a human in a setting outside a lab. But without direct proof of a natural spillover, more scientists and politicians have called for a full investigation into the lab leak theory.

    Proponents of a lab investigation say that researchers at Dr. Shi’s institute could have collected — or contracted — the new coronavirus from the wild, such as in a bat cave. Or the scientists may have created it, by accident or by design. Either way, the virus could then have leaked from the laboratory, perhaps by infecting a worker.

    China has sought to influence investigations into the virus’s origin, while promoting its own unproven allegations.

    Beijing agreed to allow a team of World Health Organization experts to visit China, but limited their access. When the W.H.O. team said in a report in March that a lab leak was extremely unlikely, its conclusion was seen as hasty. Even the head of the W.H.O., Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said: “I do not believe that this assessment was extensive enough.”

    Last month, President Biden ordered intelligence agencies to investigate the origin question, including the lab theory. On Sunday, the leaders of the world’s wealthiest large democracies, at the Group of 7 summit, urged China to be part of a new investigation into the origins of the coronavirus. Mr. Biden told reporters that he and other leaders had discussed access to labs in China.

    “Transparency matters across the board,” Mr. Biden said.

    ‘Scientists have a motherland.’

    In less polarized times, Dr. Shi was a symbol of China’s scientific progress, the “Bat Woman” at the forefront of research into emerging viruses.

    She led expeditions into caves to collect samples from bats and guano, to learn how viruses jump from animals to humans. In 2019, she was among 109 scientists elected to the American Academy of Microbiology for her contributions to the field.

    “She’s a stellar scientist — extremely careful, with a rigorous work ethic,” said Dr. Robert C. Gallo, director of the Institute of Human Virology at the University of Maryland School of Medicine.

    The Wuhan Institute of Virology employs nearly 300 people and is home to one of only two Chinese labs that have been given the highest security designation, Biosafety Level 4. Dr. Shi leads the institute’s work on emerging infectious diseases, and over the years, her group has collected over 10,000 bat samples from around China.

    Under China’s centralized approach to scientific research, the institute answers to the Communist Party, which wants scientists to serve national goals. “Science has no borders, but scientists have a motherland,” Xi Jinping, the country’s leader, said in a speech to scientists last year.

    Dr. Shi herself, though, does not belong to the Communist Party, according to official Chinese media reports, which is unusual for state employees of her status. She built her career at the institute, starting as a research assistant in 1990 and working her way up the ranks.

    Dr. Shi, 57, obtained her Ph.D. from the University of Montpellier in France in 2000 and started studying bats in 2004 after the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, which killed more than 700 people around the world. In 2011, she made a breakthrough when she found bats in a cave in southwestern China that carried coronaviruses that were similar to the virus that causes SARS.

    “In all the work we do, if just once you can prevent the outbreak of an illness, then what we’ve done will be very meaningful,” she told CCTV, China’s state broadcaster, in 2017.

    But some of her most notable findings have since drawn the heaviest scrutiny. In recent years, Dr. Shi began experimenting on bat coronaviruses by genetically modifying them to see how they behave.

    In 2017, she and her colleagues at the Wuhan lab published a paper about an experiment in which they created new hybrid bat coronaviruses by mixing and matching parts of several existing ones — including at least one that was nearly transmissible to humans — in order to study their ability to infect and replicate in human cells.

    Proponents of this type of research say it helps society prepare for future outbreaks. Critics say the risks of creating dangerous new pathogens may outweigh potential benefits.

    The picture has been complicated by new questions about whether American government funding that went to Dr. Shi’s work supported controversial gain-of-function research. The Wuhan institute received around $600,000 in grant money from the United States government, through an American nonprofit called EcoHealth Alliance. The National Institutes of Health said it had not approved funding for the nonprofit to conduct gain-of-function research on coronaviruses that would have made them more infectious or lethal.

    Dr. Shi, in an emailed response to questions, argued that her experiments differed from gain-of-function work because she did not set out to make a virus more dangerous, but to understand how it might jump across species.

    “My lab has never conducted or cooperated in conducting GOF experiments that enhance the virulence of viruses,” she said.

    ‘Speculation rooted in utter distrust.’

    Concerns have centered not only on what experiments Dr. Shi conducted, but also on the conditions under which she did them.

    Some of Dr. Shi’s experiments on bat viruses were done in Biosafety Level 2 labs, where security is lower than in other labs at the institute. That has raised questions about whether a dangerous pathogen could have slipped out.

    Ralph Baric, a prominent University of North Carolina expert in coronaviruses who signed the open letter in Science, said that although a natural origin of the virus was likely, he supported a review of what level of biosafety precautions were taken in studying bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan institute. Dr. Baric conducted N.I.H.-approved gain-of-function research at his lab at the University of North Carolina using information on viral genetic sequences provided by Dr. Shi.

    Dr. Shi said that bat viruses in China could be studied in BSL-2 labs because there was no evidence that they directly infected humans, a view supported by some other scientists.

    She also rejected recent reports that three researchers from her institute had sought treatment at a hospital in November 2019 for flulike symptoms, before the first Covid-19 cases were reported.

    “The Wuhan Institute of Virology has not come across such cases,” she wrote. “If possible, can you provide the names of the three to help us check?”

    As for samples that the lab held, Dr. Shi has maintained that the closest bat virus she had in her lab, which she shared publicly, was only 96 percent identical to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19 — a vast difference by genomic standards. She rejects speculation that her lab had worked on other viruses in secret.

    Dr. Shi’s research on a group of miners in Yunnan Province who suffered severe respiratory disease in 2012 has also drawn questions. The miners had worked in the same cave where Dr. Shi’s team later discovered the bat virus that is close to SARS-CoV-2. Dr. Shi said her lab did not detect bat SARS-like coronaviruses in the miners’ samples and that she would publish more details in a scientific journal soon; her critics say she has withheld information.

    “This issue is too important not to come forward with everything you have and in a timely and transparent manner,” said Alina Chan, a postdoctoral research fellow at the Broad Institute of M.I.T. and Harvard who also signed the Science letter.

    Many scientists and officials say China should share employees’ medical records and the lab’s logs of its experiments and its viral sequence database to evaluate Dr. Shi’s claims.

    Dr. Shi said she and the institute had been open with the W.H.O. and with the global scientific community.

    “This is no longer a question of science,” she said on the phone. “It is speculation rooted in utter distrust.”

    ‘I have nothing to fear.’

    The pandemic was a moment that Dr. Shi and her team had long braced for. For years, she had warned of the risks of a coronavirus outbreak, building up a stock of knowledge about these pathogens.

    In January of last year, as Dr. Shi and her team worked frantically, they were exhausted, but also excited, said Wang Linfa, a virologist at the Duke-National University of Singapore Medical School who was in Wuhan with Dr. Shi at the time.

    “All the experiences, reagents and the bat samples in the freezer were finally being used in a significant way globally,” said Dr. Wang, Dr. Shi’s collaborator and friend for 17 years.

    Dr. Shi published some of the most important early papers on SARS-CoV-2 and Covid-19, which scientists around the world have relied on.

    But soon, the speculation about Dr. Shi and her lab began to swirl. Dr. Shi, who is known among friends for being blunt, was baffled and angry — and sometimes let it show.

    In an interview with Science magazine last July, she said that Mr. Trump owed her an apology for claiming the virus came from her lab. On social media, she said people who raised similar questions should “shut your stinky mouths.”

    Dr. Shi said what she saw as the politicization of the question had sapped her of any enthusiasm for investigating the origins of the virus. She has instead focused on Covid vaccines and the features of the new virus, and over time, she said, has calmed down.

    “I’m sure that I did nothing wrong,” she wrote. “So I have nothing to fear.”
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    Post by Ferenc Puskás Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:11 am

    Hej, kamo bold?! Ulijenio si se. Vidi da popraviš to.


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    Ovo novinarstvo malo dismr na Informer.
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    Post by Erős Pista Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:47 am

    Ferenc Puskás wrote:Hej, kamo bold?! Ulijenio si se. Vidi da popraviš to.

    Možda ništa nije važno!


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    Post by lalinea Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:29 am

    Dokazi, braco, dokazi, a ne "more than likely" i praporci.


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    Post by паће Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:30 am

    А Џон Стјуарт је па ауторитет.


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    Post by Bleeding Blitva Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:25 pm

    паће wrote:А Џон Стјуарт је па ауторитет.
    Više niti za komediju.


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    Post by Sotir Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:30 pm

    Да је исцурео из лабораторије у којој су били шишмиши, ваљда би знали одакле су покупили мишеве и вирус из дивљине

    Тако да ова лаб лик теза иде ка томе да су га направили или прчкали по вирусима кад је дошло  до цурења. Што је компликованије и самим тим и мање вероватније.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:05 pm

    Кина је данас назвала апсурдном теорију да је коронавирус "исцурео" из лабораторије у Вухану и додала да ће политизација тог питања отежати даљу истрагу.


    Претходно је директор Светске здравствене организације (СЗО) Тедрос Гебрејесус у четвртак рекао да је отежана истрага о пореклу корона вируса у Кини недостатком необрађених података са почетка избијања пандемије и апеловао да све буде транспарентније.
    Портпарол министарства спољних послова Џао Лигјијан изјавио је да је неке податке немогуће копирати, нити могу да напусте Кину, јер садрже и приватне информације, пренео је Ројтерс.
    Гебрејесус ће данас обавестити чланице СЗО о другој фази студије (о пореклу вируса), изјавио је један од челних људи организације Мајк Рајан.

    „Радујемо се што ћемо радити са кинеским колегама на овом питању, а генерални директор ће изнети детаље чланицама СЗО на састанку“, рекао је Рајан.

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    Post by Del Cap Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:23 am

    China refuses further inquiry into Covid-19 origins in Wuhan lab


    China’s government has refused to cooperate with the second stage of an international investigation into the origins of Covid-19, labelling a proposal to audit Chinese labs as “arrogance towards science”.

    Chinese health officials held a press conference on Thursday to respond to last week’s proposal by the World Health Organization that the second phase of its investigation into the origins of the pandemic include “audits of relevant laboratories and research institutions operating in the area of the initial human cases identified in December 2019”, meaning the city of Wuhan.

    At a closed-door meeting with member states last Friday, the WHO’s chief, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said they expected China “to support this next phase of the scientific process by sharing all relevant data in a spirit of transparency”.

    But on Thursday China’s vice minister of health, Zeng Yixin, said he was extremely surprised by the proposal, which he said showed “disrespect for common sense and arrogance towards science”.

    “We won’t follow such a plan,” Zeng said.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/22/china-refuses-further-inquiry-into-covid-19-origins-in-wuhan-lab
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    Post by Летећи Полип Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:20 pm

    Могуће је да вирус САРС-КоВ-2 постоји у свету од 2013. године, изјавио је у интервјуу за Спутњик шеф службе за превенцију и контролу заразних болести Универзитетске болнице у Женеви, швајцарски проналазач формуле за дезинфекцију руку Дидије Пите.


    „Остаје нејасно да је 2013. године у Кини, око 1.100 километара од Вухана, у пећинама које су истраживали спелеолози, пронађен вирус који је био врло сличан, око 96 одсто, ковиду 19 и он је могао да зарази људе који су радили у тој пећини. И остаје нејасно да је овај вирус можда открила једна од лабораторија у Вухану. Тамо постоји неколико лабораторија које раде са вирусима корона. Људи који раде у тим лабораторијама објавили су дисертације. Али ове дисертације су нестале. Осим тога, када радите на новом вирусу, он је замрзнут. Али показало се да лабораторија није пронашла овај примерак. И то је помало забрињавајуће“, рекао је он.

    Научник истиче да то не значи да је САРС-КоВ-2 створен у лабораторији, „али говори о томе да се од нас можда крило да је већ 2013. године, пре осам година, откривен вирус веома сличан ковиду 19“.
    „А да би вирус постао пандемија, потребно је да неко време циркулише у природи. Дакле, можда је овај вирус са нама много дуже него што можемо да замислимо“, констатовао је он.
    Експерт сматра да су постојали и други директни показатељи за то.

    „Тако су у јесен 2019. године у области Вухана одржане војне олимпијске игре. И један број тимова разболео се од симптома сличних грипу. Било је и спортиста који због тога нису могли да учествују на играма, што је необично за војне спортисте. Значи, вирус је већ постојао и постоје докази да је овај вирус био и у Европи, чак и пре него што је објављено“, објаснио је он.
    Пите је нагласио да ова ситуација заслужује детаљну истрагу. Не само да би се боље разумело колико је времена потребно да се вирус развије до размера пандемије, већ и „како би се следећи пут боље реаговало у смислу спречавања сличних ситуација“.

    Светска здравствена организација објавила је 11. марта епидемију новог вируса корона, ковид 19, за пандемију. Према последњим подацима, у свету је до данас заражено више од 198,5 милиона људи, од чега је више од 4,2 милиона људи умрло. Тренутно у свету има више од 15 милиона активних случајева ковида.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:19 pm

    The new report “outlines evidence that points to the Wuhan Institute of Virology as the source of the outbreak, and outlines some of the many steps researchers at the WIV along with Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance took to cover up the research being done there.”

    It also “breaks down how scientific papers written by researchers at the WIV not only prove the WIV was doing dangerous genetic modification research on coronaviruses at unsafe biosafety levels, but also that WIV researchers had the ability to genetically modify coronaviruses as early as 2016 without leaving any trace of that modification.”
    McCaul said he believes now is the right time to "completely dismiss" the hypothesis that the Wuhan wet market was the source of the outbreak.

    “We know gain-of-function research was happening at the WIV and we know it was being done in unsafe conditions. We also now know the head of the Chinese CDC and the director of the WIV's Biosafety Level-4 lab publicly expressed concerns about safety at PRC labs in the summer of 2019. It is our belief the virus leaked sometime in late August or early September 2019. When they realized what happened, Chinese Communist Party officials and scientists at the WIV began frantically covering up the leak, including taking their virus database offline in the middle of the night and requesting more than $1 million for additional security,” he said.

    McCaul added: “But their cover-up was too late — the virus was already spreading throughout the megacity of Wuhan. Within a month, satellite images show a significant uptick in the number of people at hospitals around the WIV with symptoms similar to COVID-19. At the same time, athletes at the Military World Games became sick with symptoms similar to COVID-19. Some of them carried the virus back to their home countries — creating one of the earliest super spreader events in the world.”

    The report concludes that “the preponderance of the evidence proves the virus did leak from" a Wuhan lab, and it contends that the removal of the WIV's virus and sample database in September 2019, as well as safety concerns expressed by Chinese scientists and a host of circumstantial evidence, points to the conclusion that the virus leaked from the lab.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gop-report-evidence-proves-covid-emerged-wuhan-lab
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    Post by MNE Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:42 pm

    klasični teoretičare zavjere, 5G čipovi zemlja ravna ploča itd.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:51 pm

    MNE wrote:klasični teoretičare zavjere, 5G čipovi zemlja ravna ploča itd.

    Republikanci nisu teoretičari zavera već, u ovom trenutku, teroristi.
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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:33 pm

    Here are some of these coincidental events:

    • The Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) is affiliated with the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Shortly after the pandemic started in Wuhan, Maj. Gen. Prof. Wei Chen, a prominent Chinese biological warfare expert affiliated with the military’s Beijing Institute of Biotechnology, was appointed head of the WIV P4 biosafety level (the highest biosafety level) wing, where various SARS-like viruses are held.

    • The P4 biosafety level wing was constructed under the supervision of a knowledgeable French company. China arbitrarily put an end to the collaboration with the French when construction was completed in 2017.

    • The year 2017 also prefigured an upgrade and increased momentum within the scientific sphere at WIV regarding SARS-like coronaviruses. That year, a PhD thesis was completed at WIV on the “Reverse genetic system of bat SARS-like coronaviruses and function of ORFX,” one main achievement of which was the establishment of “a scheme to replace the S (spike) gene without traces.”

    • The Wuhan Institute of Biological Products has worked with SARS-like viruses at its National Engineering Technology Research Center for Combined Vaccines, in collaboration with WIV, since 2017, and continuing into 2019. During the period of the construction of the WIV P4 wing, the center was relocated 200 meters away from it. The two facilities essentially became one.

    • On February 24, 2020, a patent for a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 was filed by principal investigator Yusen Zhou, a PLA (People’s Liberation Army) scientist who worked on it with WIV. Zhou died three months later in undisclosed circumstances.

    • SARS-CoV-2was found extensively pre-adapted to humans (especially in terms of transmissibility) from the beginning of the pandemic. Specific gain of function experimentation potentially leading to a comparable pre-adapted virus was attempted and mastered at WIV in recent years, including 2019.

    • A primordial, naturally man-adapted SARS-resembling virus was transmitted from bats to humans in 2012, infecting and killing miners in southwest China. That virus was subsequently “adopted” by WIV, together with related viruses isolated from the same mine. The identity and fate of those viruses have been blurred, despite the fact that they were examined and experimented on up to 2019.

    • Months before the declared COVID-19 outbreak, the WIV P4 wing requested bids for major renovations to air safety and waste treatment systems in research facilities that had been operational for less than two years.

    • On September 12, 2019, a vital database regarding viruses collected by WIV was removed from the institute. The removal was explained (much later) by a WIV senior scientist as a step taken “during the COVID-19 pandemic… to prevent cyber security attacks.”

    • Chinese authorities claim that Patient Zero (the first infected person of the pandemic) appeared in Wuhan on December 8, 2019—yet intelligence reports and scientific findings point to some time between early October to mid-November 2019 as the real onset of the pandemic



    https://besacenter.org/too-many-coincidences-the-likelihood-that-a-lab-leak-in-wuhan-led-to-the-covid-19-outbreak/
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    Post by Летећи Полип Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:14 pm

    Peter Ben Embarek, the WHO food safety and animal diseases expert who led the organization’s investigation into the origins of the novel coronavirus, says in a new documentary that Chinese colleagues influenced the presentation of the team’s findings.

    In The Virus Mystery, airing Thursday night on Danish television, Ben Embarek says Chinese researchers in the group fought against connecting the origins of the pandemic to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in a report detailing the investigation.

    “In the beginning, they didn’t want anything about the lab [in the report], because it was impossible, so there was no need to waste time on that,” Ben Embarek said. “We insisted on including it, because it was part of the whole issue about where the virus originated.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/who-expert-says-chinese-officials-pushed-investigators-to-reject-lab-leak-theory/
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    Post by Del Cap Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:51 am

    The WHO on Thursday urged China to share raw data from the earliest Covid-19 cases to revive the pandemic origins probe -- and release information to address the controversial lab leak theory.

    The World Health Organization stressed it was "vitally important" to uncover the origins of the worst pandemic in a century, which has killed at least 4.3 million people and battered the global economy since the virus was first detected in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2019.

    In the face of pushback from Beijing, the UN health agency called for the provision of "all data and access required so that the next series of studies can be commenced as soon as possible"
    ...

    "Access to data is critically important for evolving our understanding of science."

    The WHO said it was working with several countries that reported detection of SARS-CoV-2 in samples from 2019 stored biological specimens.

    For example, it said, in Italy, it had facilitated an independent evaluation by international laboratories, which included the blind retesting of pre-pandemic blood samples.

    "Sharing raw data and giving permission for the retesting of samples in labs outside of Italy reflects scientific solidarity at its best and is no different from what we encourage all countries, including China, to support so that we can advance the studies of the origins quickly and effectively," the WHO said.
    ....


    #China rejects the #WHO’s calls for a renewed probe into the origins of #COVID19, saying it supported “scientific” over “political” efforts to find out how the virus started.

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    Post by Летећи Полип Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:11 am

    Извештај означен као строго поверљив ове недеље је достављен Бајдену, који је обавештајним службама дао рок од 90 дана да удвоструче напоре и објасне порекло пандемије коронавируса.

    Према деловима извештаја објављеним у петак увече, обавештајне службе су закључиле да коронавирус чији је научни назив САРС-ЦоВ-2 није развијен као биолошко оружје и да вероватно није генетски модификован.
    Међутим, остаје подељеност у ставу да ли је коронавирус изазван природном изложеношћу, или је резултат „лабораторијске несреће“.

    „Кључне информације о пореклу пандемије постоје у Кини, а од почетка су тамошњи званичници радили на спречавању приступа међународних истражитеља“, рекао је амерички председник.
    Бајден је додао да Кина наставља да одбацује позиве на транспарентност и прикрива информације иако је даље присутна пандемија коронавируса.

    Кинеска амбасада у Вашингтону одмах је реаговала у петак увече и оптужила САД за политичку манипулацију.
    „Извештај америчке обавештајне заједнице показује да су САД одлучне да крену погрешним путем политичке манипулације“, навела је кинеска амбасада и додала да се извештај заснива „на претпоставци кинеске кривице, само да би Кина била жртвени јарац“.
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    Post by lalinea Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:46 am

    Летећи Полип wrote:
    Извештај означен као строго поверљив ове недеље је достављен Бајдену, који је обавештајним службама дао рок од 90 дана да удвоструче напоре и објасне порекло пандемије коронавируса.

    Према деловима извештаја објављеним у петак увече, обавештајне службе су закључиле да коронавирус чији је научни назив САРС-ЦоВ-2 није развијен као биолошко оружје и да вероватно није генетски модификован.
    Међутим, остаје подељеност у ставу да ли је коронавирус изазван природном изложеношћу, или је резултат „лабораторијске несреће“.

    „Кључне информације о пореклу пандемије постоје у Кини, а од почетка су тамошњи званичници радили на спречавању приступа међународних истражитеља“, рекао је амерички председник.
    Бајден је додао да Кина наставља да одбацује позиве на транспарентност и прикрива информације иако је даље присутна пандемија коронавируса.

    Кинеска амбасада у Вашингтону одмах је реаговала у петак увече и оптужила САД за политичку манипулацију.
    „Извештај америчке обавештајне заједнице показује да су САД одлучне да крену погрешним путем политичке манипулације“, навела је кинеска амбасада и додала да се извештај заснива „на претпоставци кинеске кривице, само да би Кина била жртвени јарац“.
    ma dal je moguce...


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