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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:37 pm

    14-godišnjak u Portugalu. Virus - Page 30 3363120308

    A 14-year-old boy has died after falling ill with coronavirus in Portugal.

    The Portuguese youngster from Ovar, half an hour’s drive south of Porto, lost his fight for life in the early hours of this morning after being rushed to Sao Sebastiao Hospital in nearby Santa Maria da Feira.

    Medics are said to have decided against transferring him to a hospital with a paediatric A&E unit in Porto, Portugal’s second largest city, because of the severity of his condition.
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    Local reports said he suffered from psoriasis, a skin disorder that can affect the immune system.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-14-skin-condition-youngest-21774847
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    Post by Margit Savović Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:04 pm

    Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:Neće se nikad testirati svi niti većina, a na kraju krajeva brojke služe radi procena i kakvih-takvih prognoza da bi se znalo šta da se radi, a ne radi ultimativne istinitosti i preciznosti.
    Sta ces da zakljucis kad budu testirali 4 hiljade ljudi na dan? 


    U redu je testiranje da kad nepogresivo znas da je neko oboleo da mu pruzis negu i da povezana lica karantiniras, ali da nesto zakljucujes o populaciji sa ovakvim pristupom ne mozes.
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:13 pm

    Rast broja ljudi sa akutnim simptomima je apsolutna kategorija, nezavisna od testiranja. 
    Za sada je barem jasno da u istom vremenskom opsegu nismo postali Italija.
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    Post by boomer crook Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:14 pm

    rumbeando wrote:14-godišnjak u Portugalu.  Virus - Page 30 3363120308

    A 14-year-old boy has died after falling ill with coronavirus in Portugal.

    The Portuguese youngster from Ovar, half an hour’s drive south of Porto, lost his fight for life in the early hours of this morning after being rushed to Sao Sebastiao Hospital in nearby Santa Maria da Feira.

    Medics are said to have decided against transferring him to a hospital with a paediatric A&E unit in Porto, Portugal’s second largest city, because of the severity of his condition.
    ...
    Local reports said he suffered from psoriasis, a skin disorder that can affect the immune system.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-14-skin-condition-youngest-21774847

    uzas. ovaj decko je dobar primer kako imuno-kompromitovani mogu da budu zrtve neodgovornog ponasanja. inace psorijaza nije zezanja. znam primer iz sire familije.


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    Post by disident Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:15 pm

    drzte gace , mnogi se trude da postanemo i gori od italije



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    rumbeando

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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:19 pm

    Englezima su Kinezi krivi što testiraju 7x manje od Nemaca.

    Michael Gove has appeared to lay the blame for the UK’s lack of mass testing on China, raising the prospect of increased diplomatic tension between the two countries.

    Some of China’s reports on the virus were unclear about the “scale, nature and infectiousness” of the disease, the cabinet minister told the BBC.

    Asked on BBC One’s Andrew Marr show why Britain did not have sufficient testing, despite the first case in China being known about in December, Gove said: “We’ve been increasing the number of tests over the course of the last month.

    “It was the case … [that] the first case of coronavirus in China was established in December of last year, but it was also the case that some of the reporting from China was not clear about the scale, the nature, the infectiousness of this.”

    The Mail on Sunday reported that senior Downing Street officials and ministers expect a “reckoning” with China over misinformation in relation to the outbreak. It also claimed there was anger over perceived attempts by China to exploit the crisis for economic gain.

    Gove announced that the UK had reached its initial target of testing 10,000 people a day for coronavirus. The aim is to raise the rate to 25,000 a day, but he did not give a timeline.

    Asked why there was still no fixed date for the rollout of mass testing , he said only that the government was setting the NHS Nightingale field hospital to free up the capacity of the equivalent of 50 hospitals.

    It was put to Gove that Germany was carrying out half a million tests a week while NHS workers in the UK still did not know when they would get a test.

    He said: “It’s certainly the case that the Germans have had success in testing. The acceleration here in the UK is significant. If one looks at, and this is not the way to look at it, but if one looks at a league table then the UK is rising up it.

    “We’ve managed to test significantly more of our citizens as a percentage than some other countries but frankly the most important thing is not to look backwards but to look forwards and to do everything that we can to increase the number of tests.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/29/michael-gove-appears-to-blame-china-over-lack-of-uk-coronavirus-testing
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    Post by Margit Savović Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:22 pm

    Halászlé wrote:Rast broja ljudi sa akutnim simptomima je apsolutna kategorija, nezavisna od testiranja. 
    Za sada je barem jasno da u istom vremenskom opsegu nismo postali Italija.
    I ja mislim da nismo jer smo ranije presekli sirenje, ali ponavljam i da postoje silni ljudi sa akutnim simptomima (suvi kasalj i temperatura >38) koji nisu testirani i kojima je receno da stay put dok ne dodju u situaciju da im ponestaje dah.
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:23 pm

    Svakako ih ima.
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    Post by ficfiric Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:29 pm

    Mi svakako ne mozemo da se merimo sa Italijom ili Spanijom. Ako na sirenje najvise utice guzva, mi nemamo takva mesta kao sto su Milano, Venecija, London... Mozemo da se merimo sa Albanijom, Bugarskom, Ukrajinom, Slovackom... Kakav bude rast kod njih, nesto slicno mozemo ocekivati i ovde a da li ce nas sistem to moci da podnese - videcemo


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    Uprava napolje!

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    Post by kondo Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:31 pm

    ljubi ga brt pametnog


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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:34 pm

    Kod nas prosečno domaćinstvo ima 3 osobe, a u Italiji i Španiji 2,5, tako da smo s te strane gori.

    To je bitno, pošto je u Kini procena bila da je oko 80% slučajeva preneseno među familijom.
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    Post by kondo Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:36 pm

    evo ga ovaj plašilac


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    Post by Sotir Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:07 pm

    А Докони седи испред компа и сваки час освежава страну да види да ли има нешто битно, али му излазе само глупости.
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:40 pm

    Mau wrote:
    Bendegúz Somogyi wrote:Neće se nikad testirati svi niti većina, a na kraju krajeva brojke služe radi procena i kakvih-takvih prognoza da bi se znalo šta da se radi, a ne radi ultimativne istinitosti i preciznosti.
    Sta ces da zakljucis kad budu testirali 4 hiljade ljudi na dan? 


    U redu je testiranje da kad nepogresivo znas da je neko oboleo da mu pruzis negu i da povezana lica karantiniras, ali da nesto zakljucujes o populaciji sa ovakvim pristupom ne mozes.

    Ali su relevantni zaključci već doneti i uvedeno je vanredno stanje, zabrana izlaska itd, na osnovu procena o brzini širenja, načinima ulaska infekcije u zemlju itd itd. Bitne odluke se donose svaki dan sa kilavim i nepotpunim podacima. Niko nigde nije imao vremena da čeka masovno testiranje pre odluke o vanrednim merama ovog ili onog tipa.

    Jel lepo rekao onaj Martin iz SZO - "sa virusom je bolje biti brz i u krivu nego čekati da budeš u pravu".
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    Post by Margit Savović Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:45 pm

    Kuomo vlada u svojim brifinzima. Nadam se da ce DNC odjebati Bajdena i nominovati Kuoma. Em je ozbiljna glava, em je liberal na americki nacin, em je sigurno dusevan covek jer ima facu kao iz Skrosezeovih filmova.

    Svaki dan iznosi broj hospitalizovanih za NY state i ja belezim. Virus - Page 30 1399639816 
    Od 19. marta imamo:
    496
    617
    1042
    2043
    2629
    3343
    4379
    5327
    6481
    7328
    8503

    Prosecne trodnevne stope rasta su: 

    49%
    36%
    33%
    29%
    27%
    25%
    19%
    17%

    Ovo je dobar trend i same brojke su puno indikativnije o sirenju zaraze od zvanicnog broja zarazenih.


    Ajmo sad malo za Italiju lepih vesti. 

    Dnevno umrli:
    427
    627
    793
    651
    601
    743
    683
    712
    919
    889
    756

    Prosecne trodnevne stope rasta:

    17%
    15%
    12.2%
    11.1%
    10.6%
    10.2%
    10.1%
    9.5%

    Pirova je ovo pobeda, ali ovo bas ohrabruje da Italija jase ka kraju ove agonije.
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:47 pm

    pa lol

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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:52 pm

    Anthony Fauci - since January 2020, he has been one of the lead members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force addressing the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in the United States.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:52 pm

    Mau wrote:Kuomo vlada u svojim brifinzima. Nadam se da ce DNC odjebati Bajdena i nominovati Kuoma. Em je ozbiljna glava, em je liberal na americki nacin, em je sigurno dusevan covek jer ima facu kao iz Skrosezeovih filmova.

    Svaki dan iznosi broj hospitalizovanih za NY state i ja belezim. Virus - Page 30 1399639816 
    Od 19. marta imamo:
    496
    617
    1042
    2043
    2629
    3343
    4379
    5327
    6481
    7328
    8503

    Prosecne trodnevne stope rasta su: 

    49%
    36%
    33%
    29%
    27%
    25%
    19%
    17%

    Ovo je dobar trend i same brojke su puno indikativnije o sirenju zaraze od zvanicnog broja zarazenih.


    Ajmo sad malo za Italiju lepih vesti. 

    Dnevno umrli:
    427
    627
    793
    651
    601
    743
    683
    712
    919
    889
    756

    Prosecne trodnevne stope rasta:

    17%
    15%
    12.2%
    11.1%
    10.6%
    10.2%
    10.1%
    9.5%

    Pirova je ovo pobeda, ali ovo bas ohrabruje da Italija jase ka kraju ove agonije.

    koliko je kod nas hospitalizovano, kako bese?
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    Post by rumbeando Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:11 pm

    U Lombardiji se dnevni broj novozaraženih smanjio za 33% za dva dana.

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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:12 pm

    Sunce me ogreje kad ti objaviš dobru vest.
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    Post by Margit Savović Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:15 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Mau wrote:Kuomo vlada u svojim brifinzima. Nadam se da ce DNC odjebati Bajdena i nominovati Kuoma. Em je ozbiljna glava, em je liberal na americki nacin, em je sigurno dusevan covek jer ima facu kao iz Skrosezeovih filmova.

    Svaki dan iznosi broj hospitalizovanih za NY state i ja belezim. Virus - Page 30 1399639816 
    Od 19. marta imamo:
    496
    617
    1042
    2043
    2629
    3343
    4379
    5327
    6481
    7328
    8503

    Prosecne trodnevne stope rasta su: 

    49%
    36%
    33%
    29%
    27%
    25%
    19%
    17%

    Ovo je dobar trend i same brojke su puno indikativnije o sirenju zaraze od zvanicnog broja zarazenih.


    Ajmo sad malo za Italiju lepih vesti. 

    Dnevno umrli:
    427
    627
    793
    651
    601
    743
    683
    712
    919
    889
    756

    Prosecne trodnevne stope rasta:

    17%
    15%
    12.2%
    11.1%
    10.6%
    10.2%
    10.1%
    9.5%

    Pirova je ovo pobeda, ali ovo bas ohrabruje da Italija jase ka kraju ove agonije.

    koliko je kod nas hospitalizovano, kako bese?
    Oko 400 hospitalizovano, a 55 na respiratoru.
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:19 pm

    Mau wrote:
    Mór Thököly wrote:

    koliko je kod nas hospitalizovano, kako bese?
    Oko 400 hospitalizovano, a 55 na respiratoru.
    to je mnogo
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    Post by boomer crook Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:21 pm

    Halászlé wrote:Sunce me ogreje kad ti objaviš dobru vest.

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    joj i mene isto


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    Post by Margit Savović Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:28 pm

    Mór Thököly wrote:
    Mau wrote:
    Oko 400 hospitalizovano, a 55 na respiratoru.
    to je mnogo
    Malo manje, oko 360 bih rekla da je hospitalizovano.
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    Post by kapetanm Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:47 pm

    https://www.vesti-online.com/zdravko-ponos-zarazen-koronavirusom/

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