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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:01 pm

    Ovo je bizarno
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    Post by kondo Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:09 pm



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    Post by Erős Pista Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:17 am

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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:21 am

    KinderLad wrote:Ovo je bizarno

    potpuno ali npr. le kare je u nekom totalnom eurofilnom berzerker modu. uzasno je kako brexit krivi sva pitanja ko na vasarskom ogledalu.


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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:22 am

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:28 am

    bruno sulak wrote:
    KinderLad wrote:Ovo je bizarno

    potpuno ali npr. le kare je u nekom totalnom eurofilnom berzerker modu. uzasno je kako brexit krivi sva pitanja ko na vasarskom ogledalu.

    to je bio i cilj (uz spasavanje raspada torijevaca). za sad im ide odlicno
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:29 am

    ja ne znam kako lejbor moze ovo da dobije. ceka nas ono decenija bodzo-a.


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    Post by beatakeshi Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:43 am

    Šta te briga, nećeš ti tamo živeti.😎
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:45 am

    bodzo broz


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:59 am

    bruno sulak wrote:ja ne znam kako lejbor moze ovo da dobije. 

    skoro nikakako. ali samo da ti kažem, to znači da je Korbinova politika ispala promašena tj žmurenje na to šta je "order of the day". Ima logike u tome da su, pošto su sami stvorili kontekst u kome se sve ovo događa, Torijevci najbolje i shvatili taj konteskt. Ali to ne opravdava (kako definitivno izgleda) pogrešnu strategiju.
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    Post by bemty Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:46 am

    beatakeshi wrote:Šta te briga, nećeš ti tamo živeti.😎

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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:35 pm

    KinderLad wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:ja ne znam kako lejbor moze ovo da dobije. 

    skoro nikakako. ali samo da ti kažem, to znači da je Korbinova politika ispala promašena tj žmurenje na to šta je "order of the day". Ima logike u tome da su, pošto su sami stvorili kontekst u kome se sve ovo događa, Torijevci najbolje i shvatili taj konteskt. Ali to ne opravdava (kako definitivno izgleda) pogrešnu strategiju.

    moguce ali ne vodi se politika kao painting by the numbers takodje njegov "neuspeh" ce pokazati da je klasna solidarnost politicke i fiansijske elite iznad svakog nacionalnog interesa.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:38 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:
    KinderLad wrote:

    skoro nikakako. ali samo da ti kažem, to znači da je Korbinova politika ispala promašena tj žmurenje na to šta je "order of the day". Ima logike u tome da su, pošto su sami stvorili kontekst u kome se sve ovo događa, Torijevci najbolje i shvatili taj konteskt. Ali to ne opravdava (kako definitivno izgleda) pogrešnu strategiju.

    moguce ali ne vodi se politika kao painting by the numbers takodje njegov "neuspeh" ce pokazati da je klasna solidarnost politicke i fiansijske elite iznad svakog nacionalnog interesa.

    Neka je tako, ali on nije intelektualac koji "kandiduje teme", nego političar koji se bori za dolazak na vlast.
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    Post by Guest Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:41 pm

    bemty wrote:
    beatakeshi wrote:Šta te briga, nećeš ti tamo živeti.😎

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    neka te teši to što u srbiji nije mnogo bolje  UK - Politika i društvo  3579118792
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:44 pm

    Mr. Moonlight wrote:
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    neka te teši to što u srbiji nije mnogo bolje 
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:45 pm

    KinderLad wrote:
    bruno sulak wrote:

    moguce ali ne vodi se politika kao painting by the numbers takodje njegov "neuspeh" ce pokazati da je klasna solidarnost politicke i fiansijske elite iznad svakog nacionalnog interesa.

    Neka je tako, ali on nije intelektualac koji "kandiduje teme", nego političar koji se bori za dolazak na vlast.

    pa da ali zapravo ovo je signal da kao "socijalista" ti ne mozes na vlast. on je prvo imao otpor u sopstvenoj stranci pa onda protiv sebe ogromnu medijsku masineriju i izborne zakone torijevaca.

    mislim ja ovo pisem malo kao i apologetiku blerista. oni su bas sve ovo radili da dodju na vlast ali vidi ih sada.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:53 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:
    KinderLad wrote:

    Neka je tako, ali on nije intelektualac koji "kandiduje teme", nego političar koji se bori za dolazak na vlast.

    pa da ali zapravo ovo je signal da kao "socijalista" ti ne mozes na vlast. on je prvo imao otpor u sopstvenoj stranci pa onda protiv sebe ogromnu medijsku masineriju i izborne zakone torijevaca.

    mislim ja ovo pisem malo kao i apologetiku blerista. oni su bas sve ovo radili da dodju na vlast ali vidi ih sada.

    Lbour je užasno pogrešio sto 2011 nije podržao promenu izbornog sistema.
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:56 pm

    sta ja znam sve je to dosta komplikovano i zapravo je njihova politicka scena pomalo i nepredvidiva i zanimljiva.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:05 pm

    Ma pogresili su 100%. Jesu to LibDems smislili kako bi oni uvek bili "jezičak na vagi". Ali ne bi uvek bili, tu je i SNP i Zeleni, stranke sa kojima Laburisti ne bi morali da prave ozbiljnije kompromise kada su "klasne" stvari u pitanju.
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:14 pm

    mislim da je ostrvo prilicno skepticno prema svakoj evropeizaciji svog politickog prostora. tu ne mislim na clanstvo u EU specificno vec na razlicite politicke i parlamentarne standarde koji funkcionisu na kontinentu.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:19 pm

    bruno sulak wrote:mislim da je ostrvo prilicno skepticno prema svakoj evropeizaciji svog politickog prostora. tu ne mislim na clanstvo u EU specificno vec na razlicite politicke i parlamentarne standarde koji funkcionisu na kontinentu.

    Kako koji deo. Komplikovano je, a i O'Toole je vec objasnio bolje nego bilo ko poslednjih godina. Mada o tome može da se piše na dve hiljade strana
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    Post by boomer crook Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:21 pm

    naravno sto bi se reklo komplikovano je to i moze da se pise ali si nacelno u pravu: lejbor se zajebao takticki oko toga. e sada mozda nisu mogli da whipuju svoje empije da za to glasaju.


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    Post by ontheotherhand Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:20 pm

    https://economicsofimperialism.blogspot.com/2019/09/labour-imperialism-finance.html

    Following are slides for my presentation on a panel at ‘The World Transformed’ conference in Brighton on Monday 23 September. It was well-attended, with probably some 400-500 people under the ‘Big Tent’, some out in the rain. The topic was ‘financialisation’, a term that I find misleading at best. Those who use this term often do not understand the role financial markets play, and often it is a cloak for their soppy reformist policies. So I decided to switch the focus to imperialism and finance instead, and to expose UK Labour Party hypocrisy.


    I had fifteen minutes, as did the other panel speakers, Yanis Varoufakis, Ann Pettifor and Kali Akuno. My presentation was marred by the lack of a promised presentation screen. It led to me fumbling a little over my notes instead, but I should have realised that this absence was close to inevitable. There was a good reception for what I said, but most acclaim, unsurprisingly at this Labour Conference-related event, was given to the ‘Oh, Jeremy Corbyn!’ angle taken by Varoufakis and Pettifor.




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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:25 pm

    To uopšte nije sporno. Ko god ima problema sa britanskim statusom u svetu mora da podrži Brexit jer će ga (taj status) Brexit najbrže survati. Već ga survava.

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