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    Post by ♏ Wed May 15, 2019 8:00 pm

    Ovaj konkretni stolnjak je bio malo umazan, ne radi baš dobro visual intuitive runner, videću posle nightly builda šta je bilo.
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    Post by паће Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:38 pm

    http://www.developerexcuses.com/

    Еф пет или клик у реченицу док све не наиђе по четврти пут.


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    Post by паће Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:32 am

    The worst thing a programmer can experience:

    A StackOverflow question that matches your issue, but none of the proposed answers worked, and the OP eventually said 'Nevermind, fixed it myself'.

    Пошаљем ћерци, а она ће "и оно кад видиш да се спомиње само једном, пре пет година, и да си и то сам написао". Реко "то се не броји, тамо решење није ни постојало, није исти случај".


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    Post by паће Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:44 pm

    А ево да се мало подсетимо како програмере у ствари нико ништа не пита, него има да се ради како кажу трговци и адвокати:

    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/11/half-an-operating-system-the-triumph-and-tragedy-of-os2/
    “The concern was that we were losing the hearts and minds,” former IBM executive Jack Sams said in an interview. “So the order came down from on high: give us a machine to win us back the hearts and minds.” But the chairman of IBM worried that his company’s massive bureaucracy would make any internal PC project take years to produce, by which time the personal computer industry might already be completely taken over by non-IBM machines.
    So a rogue group in Boca Raton, Florida—far away from IBM headquarters—was allowed to use a radical strategy to design and produce a machine using largely off-the-shelf parts and a third-party CPU, operating system, and programming languages. It went to Microsoft to get the last two, but Microsoft didn’t have the rights to sell them an OS and directed the group to Digital Research, who was preparing a 16-bit version of CP/M that would run on the 8088 CPU that IBM was putting into the PC. In what has become a legendary story, Digital Research sent IBM’s people away when Digital Research’s lawyers refused to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Microsoft, worried that the whole deal would fall apart, frantically purchased the rights to Tim Patterson’s QDOS (“Quick and Dirty Operating System”) from Seattle Computer Products. Microsoft “cleaned up” QDOS for IBM, getting rid of the unfortunate name and allowing the IBM PC to launch on schedule. Everyone was happy, except perhaps Digital Research’s founder, Gary Kildall.


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    Post by паће Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:08 pm

    After certain takeoffs and landings were delayed on Nov. 7 at Paris' Orly airport (several days before the terrorist attacks), a back trace on the problem forced the airport to disclose that its crucial "DECOR" computer system still runs on Windows 3.1 software (introduced in 1992). DECOR's function is to estimate the spacing between aircraft on fog-bound, visually impossible runways, and apparently it must shut down whenever the airport scrambles to find an available 3.1-qualified technician. [Vice.com, 11-13-2015]


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    Post by ♏ Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:57 pm

    Kad se prave pametni umesto da kao svi ostali aerodromi koriste nešto pisano za OS/2...
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    Post by паће Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:03 pm

    ♏ wrote:Kad se prave pametni umesto da kao svi ostali aerodromi koriste nešto pisano za OS/2...

    ...у Фортрану?


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    Post by nalog sa ženinog laptopa Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:01 pm

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    THE space age is upon us. Rockets are leaving our globe at 
    speeds unheard of only a few years ago, to orbit earth, moon, and 
    sun. People have visited the moon, we have sent space probes to 
    all but one of the planets, and words like "orbit" and "satellite" are 
    picked up by children in the nursery.
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    Post by паће Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:57 pm

    Па кад заврше, нек јави резултат.


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    Post by паће Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:31 pm

    Неко на оном стручном форуму спомену ДелиТачку, па реко ај да видим шкк је то, нисам имао част... тј измигољио сам се пре него што сам дошао дотле да треба у томе нешто да пипнем. Кренем да гуглам и, јебига, као и све од малог меканог, 99% чланака су или реклама из самог Редмонда, или рекламе вазалних фирми. Тек на крају друге стране нађем


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    I am one of the poor few souls that actually developed in Sharepoint, and hated every second of it so much that I was considering suicide (not literally, but enough to start having an alcohol problem).

    It's a system that requires 50 pages of instructions just to set up properly, a huge ass server and a lot of expensive software too.

    It creates a huge ass infrastructure of files, version control, and literally everything, in the database. Obviously that makes it extremely slow and hungry.

    Its UI is made by 2000 indians who got a crash course on how to web develop from a 1995 book probably. It's all made with multiple layers of nested tables, and somehow it manages to mimic the look of MS Office (with a ribbon and shit). Customizing its looks is a bit harder than making a HTML5-based game on IE6. It's also full of bugs and awful code, that I had to decompile and override in order for it to remotely work properly.

    What does it do? What is it for? Glorified CMS.

    You can post stuff in it, in pages (called sites) that use a certain underlying data structure. You define tables in Sharepoint (their structure and data is stored Zeus-knows-how in MSSQL), you have an UI in Sharepoint where you can fill them with data, and you can have Web Parts (widgets) that display this data in a visual way. You can define validation rules, there are different data processing stuffs in it, all edits are versioned, you have different publishing states, and other kind of bullshit.
    You can link MS Office documents in there, but I dreaded Sharepoint so much that when I didn't rely on coding on it for food, I kept it as far away from me as possible. Thus, I did not "play" with any of its features. Partly because breaking it is easier than splitting your piss in 2 streams, and fuck-knows how to get it back working again.

    It's THE MOST bloated, slow, ugly, unstable and unusable piece of crap that I've seen so far. Wordpress has a lot to learn from it.

    Опет не знам да ли сам имао више среће или памети што сам то избегао.


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    Post by паће Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:00 am

    Немамо топић за слава му, па ајд овде: Никлаус Вирт бацио кашику.

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obituary/?td=rt-3a

    Whereas Europeans generally pronounce his name the right way ('Nick-louse Veert'), Americans invariably mangle it into 'Nickel's Worth.' This is to say that Europeans call him by name, but Americans call him by value.


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    Post by паће Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:08 pm

    Можда није ово тема, али има и тога...

    Computers are literally millions of times faster. 100x as many people can be programmers now because they aren’t stuck with just C++ and assembly language, and many, many, many more people now have some kind of computer. Plus app stores, payment systems, graphics. All good stuff.
    But, also things have gotten worse. A lot of day-to-day things that used to be easy for developers, are now hard. That was unexpected. I didn’t expect that. I expected I’d be out of a job by now because programming would be so easy.


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