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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:53 am

    ćaća wrote:

    Da, naravno. Ali, covece, "Pomozite"...mislim, ono, alternativna himna raspada Jugoslavije.
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    Post by Vilmos Tehenészfiú Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:59 am

    Ovo je kad porastem biću New Order.


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    "Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."

    “Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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    Post by kondo Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:11 am

    ćaća wrote:

    koliko je tužno što je ovo jebeno seljačka zemlja u kojoj nema života za ovakve, divne ali male grupe

    ne kažem da su dinosaur jr ali ovaj format bendova u jednom masačusetsu ili kentu uspeva da živi od muzike i da se razvija kroz decenije sviranja

    ovde je sve počivalo na entuzijazmu i dok ga ima muzika se pravi. i onda dođe egzistencija i ljudi umesto gitara moraju da programiraju, predaju u školi ili prosto da pale odavde.

    kurve, lutke, kristali, kasnije jarboli....





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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:34 am

    Ne znam, znas sta, razmislio sam sad malo i...neki meni bitni bendovi tog kova i slicnog, hm (mislim, uslovno, jelte) usmerenja ni tamo nisu opstali mnogo duze (do sredine 90tih). Ride, Pale Saints, pa cak i jebeni Stone Roses. Mislim, ne uporedjujem naravno, samo kazem...da se nije sve raspalo oko nas, moguce da bi to oko ovih nasih malo bolje izgledalo.
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    Post by kondo Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:39 am

    pa da ali stone roses mogu 3 zivota da zive od tantijema i nasledja koje su ostavili....

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:42 am

    Pa da, naravno, govorim cisto "proizvodno". Zaradili su boga oca pa opet su na štake izveli Second Coming i kraj. Mada Second Coming je muzicki zreo album, al kraj se osecao "u vazduhu"
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    Post by kondo Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:49 am

    U ja baš volim Second Coming mnogo. Jedna od klasičnih potcenjenih drugih ploča koje su sazrele u senci da ne kažem izolaciji glasovitog prvenca. Poznati rnr sindrom.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:54 am

    Nije to sporno uopste, Begging You i Good Times su mi jedne od najomiljenijih njihovih pesama
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:00 am

    Nisam siguran. Skromno mislim da je pogresno traziti legacy svega toga samo u nekom muzickom izrazu.
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    Post by zvezda je zivot Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:19 am

    tacno. tu je i blerizam.

    ja licno u svoja 4 zida gotivim britpop (sem pulpa, to mi je nepodnosljivo), ali:

    BRITPOP
    Frieze, December 1995

    By Simon Reynolds


    'Britpop'--just in case you've been in a coma for the
    last year--is the music papers' buzzterm for an alleged
    rejuvenation of the charts, with the likes of Oasis, Blur,
    Elastica, Pulp and Supergrass displacing American
    grunge/faceless rave/super-annuated AOR in the higher reaches
    of the Hit Parade. 'Britpop' has become a rallying cry, an
    excuse for chests to swell with patriotic pride. It's even
    made the tabloids and the News At Ten. Back in August a
    cabbie told me he'd only ever bought four records in his
    entire life, then--unprompted--brought up Blur and Oasis.
    Even he'd heard about their big battle over whose single
    would enter the charts at Number One.

    So everybody--industry, media, 'the kids'--is frothing
    with excitement about Britpop. Why? The music biz, which
    was having trouble building long-selling careers off the back
    of dance music and had lost ground to the post-rave indie
    labels, is thrilled because the Britpopsters are guitar-based
    bands who willingly constrain themselves within the 3-minute
    pop single format and radio-friendly, trebley production.
    The music press is buzzing 'cos Britpop's aesthetic base--
    the mid-Sixties, filtered through its late '70s echo, New
    Wave--had hitherto been strictly an indie style, and thus the
    inkies' province. At the same time, the bands are overtly
    anti-experimental and pre-psychedelic; they combine playsafe
    1966-meets-1978 aesthetics with an almost doctrinal ethos of
    ambition and stardom-at-all-costs. Because the bands it
    discovers now hit the charts, the music press' prestige and morale
    has been boosted; for the first time in years, people turn to the inkies as
    tipsheets! Moreover, Britpopsters behave like stars, make
    an effort to give good face and good copy, and this makes the
    journos' job easier. And 'the kids'? Even the youngest
    surely sense, on some subliminal level, that the sound of
    Britpop harks back to the days when Britannia ruled the pop
    waves, while the attitude evokes an era when being young was
    a real cool time. The glory-lust of Oasis' "Champagne Supernova",
    the insouciance of Supergrass' "Alright", seem mighty
    appealing, even as they fly flagrantly in the face of the
    socio-economic facts.

    As it happens, I think Britain IS the place to be, pop-
    wise; it's just that this state-of-affairs has NOTHING to do
    with Britpop. Relatively unheralded by the media, another
    generation of Britons are waiving the rules. There's the
    post-rock experimentalism of Laika, Pram, Techno-Animal etc;
    the trip hop of Tricky, Wagon Christ and the Mo'Wax label;
    the 'artcore' jungle of 4 Hero, Dillinja, Droppin' Science,
    the Moving Shadow label; the art-tekno weirdness of Aphex
    Twin, Bedouin Ascent, et al. All these strands of UK
    activity are either offshoots of, or deeply influenced by, club
    music and sound-system culture; sonically, they're informed
    by the rhythm-science and studio-magick of dub reggae, hip
    hop and techno. And all speak eloquently if non-verbally of
    the emergence of a new hyrid British identity, a mongrel,
    mutational mix of black and white.

    Britpop is an evasion of the multiracial, technology-
    mediated nature of UK pop culture in the '90s. If it started
    a few years ago as a revolt against American grunge (Suede's
    fey fusion of glam Bowie and glum Morrissey), now it's
    extended itself into the symbolic erasure of Black Britain,
    as manifested in jungle and trip hop. For Britpopsters, the
    Sixties figure as a 'lost golden age' in a way that's
    alarmingly analogous to the mythic stature of the Empire vis-a-vis
    football hooligans and the BNP. Even more than the insularity of
    Britpop's quintessentially English canon (Kinks, Jam, Small
    Faces, Buzzcocks, Beatles, Smiths, Madness), it's the sheer
    WHITENESS of its sound that is staggering. Take Elastica,
    whose singer Justine Frischmann confessed that she could only
    think of one form of black music she liked: ska (the
    jerkiest, most New Wavey form of black pop ever!). And take
    Blur, whose homage to the U.K's music-hall pop tradition
    manages to sever The Kinks from R&B, Madness from ska, and
    Ian Dury from the Blockheads' fluency in funk and disco.

    Damon Albarn's pseudo-yob accent testifies to a
    nostalgia for a lost white ethnicity, one that's fast eroding
    under the triple attrition of America, Europe and this
    nation's indigenous non-white population. Like his hero
    Martin Amis, Albarn fetishises London's vestigial remnants of
    authentic white trash as "the last truly English people you
    will ever know" (to borrow a lyric from Morrissey, another
    feller with a dubious penchant for skinheads and villains).
    Mozzer is right, this is a dying breed, already displaced by
    a new generation of London youth who speak an alloy of
    Cockney/Jamaican patois/B-boy slang, watch American sci-fi
    movies, grapple with Japanese computer games, and listen to
    sampler-based music like jungle.

    It's these kids--the kind you'll find at drum & bass
    hang-outs like Speed and AWOL--who are today's mods, not the
    sorry-ass mod revivalists at Camden's Blow Up club. Mod
    originally meant 'modernist', meant having utterly
    contemporary tastes in music, clothes, everything. Today's
    junglists, trip-hoppers and techno-heads share their '60s
    ancestors obsession with records (the obscurest track, the
    freshest import) as opposed to bands; the same orientation
    towards Black America and Jamaica; the same anticipation for
    the future. Camden is supposed to have brought back the idea
    of Swinging London, but for five years now pirate radio has
    been making a clandestine cartography of the metropolis,
    bringing the scent of enchantment to forsaken places like
    Peckham and Dalston, as MC's chant out the listeners' paged-
    in "big shouts" and "'nuff respects".

    Perhaps even more than race, it's covert class struggle
    that underpins the Britpop phenom: the fetishising by mostly
    middle class bands and fans of a British working class
    culture that's already largely disappeared, is really a means
    of evading the real nature of modern prole leisure, which
    remains overwhelmingly shaped by rave. Blow Up's avowed
    anti-Ecstasy stance symbolises this perfectly. Not only did E
    usher in a new and still unfolding era of psychedelic music
    based around the drugs/technology interface, but the drug
    also permanently altered the mentality of vast tranches of
    da youth, blasting away reserve, inhibition, emotional
    constipation, everything in the English character that holds
    us back. E and rave transformed the UK into one funky
    nation, but you wouldn't be able to tell that from Britpop.
    From Blur's rickety arrangements to the raunch-less
    turgidity of Oasis, Britpop is rhythmically retarded, to say the least.
    Partly, it's the result of cultural inbreeding, of a white pop tradition
    that's long since distanced itself from the R&B roots that
    made the Beatles and Stones dance bands; partly, it's a
    deliberate avoidance of anything that smacks of lumpen rave.

    Thanks to rave, the most vital sectors of '90's UK
    subculture are all about mixing it up: socially, racially,
    and musically (DJ cut'n'mix, remixology's deconstructive
    assault on the song). Returning to the 3 minute pop tune
    that the milkman can whistle, reinvoking a parochial England
    with no black people, Britpop has turned its back defiantly
    to the future. Here's hoping the future will respond in
    kind, and remember Britpop only as an aberrant, anachronistic
    fad--like trad jazz, the early '60s student craze that
    resurrected the Dixieland sound of 30 years earlier. Perhaps
    Oasis will one day seem as inexplicable as Humphrey
    Lyttleton!

    Where Blur's The Great Escape and Oasis' What's The
    Story) Morning Glory
    bask in the setting sun of England's
    bygone pop glory, Tricky's Maxinquaye and Goldie's
    Timeless gaze into the future. Both Tricky and Goldie are
    black British B-boys mindwarped by the drugs/technology
    interface; both share a strikingly similar set of
    miscegenated influences ranging from art-rock (David Sylvian,
    Kate Busy) to ambient (Eno) to the black avant-garde (Public
    Enemy, Miles Davis); both made the Top 5 of the Album Chart.
    Reflecting what is really going on in Britain in 1995,
    Maxinquaye and Timeless offer two versions of a modern
    inner city blues. Dark, discomfiting, devoid of the callow
    cheer of yer Blurs and yer Supergrasses, yet it's these
    records (and, believe me, a horde of other trip hop, jungle
    and post-rock releases) that are the real reasons to be
    cheerful about British popular music in 1995.


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    Post by Nino Quincampoix Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:28 pm

    Zanimljiv tekst, sa nečim se slažem, sa nečim i ne.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:34 pm

    zvezda je zivot wrote:tacno. tu je i blerizam.

    ja licno u svoja 4 zida gotivim britpop (sem pulpa, to mi je nepodnosljivo), ali:

    BRITPOP
    Frieze, December 1995

    By Simon Reynolds


    'Britpop'--just in case you've been in a coma for the
    last year--is the music papers' buzzterm for an alleged
    rejuvenation of the charts, with the likes of Oasis, Blur,
    Elastica, Pulp and Supergrass displacing American
    grunge/faceless rave/super-annuated AOR in the higher reaches
    of the Hit Parade. 'Britpop' has become a rallying cry, an
    excuse for chests to swell with patriotic pride. It's even
    made the tabloids and the News At Ten. Back in August a
    cabbie told me he'd only ever bought four records in his
    entire life, then--unprompted--brought up Blur and Oasis.
    Even he'd heard about their big battle over whose single
    would enter the charts at Number One.

    So everybody--industry, media, 'the kids'--is frothing
    with excitement about Britpop. Why? The music biz, which
    was having trouble building long-selling careers off the back
    of dance music and had lost ground to the post-rave indie
    labels, is thrilled because the Britpopsters are guitar-based
    bands who willingly constrain themselves within the 3-minute
    pop single format and radio-friendly, trebley production.
    The music press is buzzing 'cos Britpop's aesthetic base--
    the mid-Sixties, filtered through its late '70s echo, New
    Wave--had hitherto been strictly an indie style, and thus the
    inkies' province. At the same time, the bands are overtly
    anti-experimental and pre-psychedelic; they combine playsafe
    1966-meets-1978 aesthetics with an almost doctrinal ethos of
    ambition and stardom-at-all-costs. Because the bands it
    discovers now hit the charts, the music press' prestige and morale
    has been boosted; for the first time in years, people turn to the inkies as
    tipsheets! Moreover, Britpopsters behave like stars, make
    an effort to give good face and good copy, and this makes the
    journos' job easier. And 'the kids'? Even the youngest
    surely sense, on some subliminal level, that the sound of
    Britpop harks back to the days when Britannia ruled the pop
    waves, while the attitude evokes an era when being young was
    a real cool time. The glory-lust of Oasis' "Champagne Supernova",
    the insouciance of Supergrass' "Alright", seem mighty
    appealing, even as they fly flagrantly in the face of the
    socio-economic facts.

    As it happens, I think Britain IS the place to be, pop-
    wise; it's just that this state-of-affairs has NOTHING to do
    with Britpop. Relatively unheralded by the media, another
    generation of Britons are waiving the rules. There's the
    post-rock experimentalism of Laika, Pram, Techno-Animal etc;
    the trip hop of Tricky, Wagon Christ and the Mo'Wax label;
    the 'artcore' jungle of 4 Hero, Dillinja, Droppin' Science,
    the Moving Shadow label; the art-tekno weirdness of Aphex
    Twin, Bedouin Ascent, et al. All these strands of UK
    activity are either offshoots of, or deeply influenced by, club
    music and sound-system culture; sonically, they're informed
    by the rhythm-science and studio-magick of dub reggae, hip
    hop and techno. And all speak eloquently if non-verbally of
    the emergence of a new hyrid British identity, a mongrel,
    mutational mix of black and white.

    Britpop is an evasion of the multiracial, technology-
    mediated nature of UK pop culture in the '90s. If it started
    a few years ago as a revolt against American grunge (Suede's
    fey fusion of glam Bowie and glum Morrissey), now it's
    extended itself into the symbolic erasure of Black Britain,
    as manifested in jungle and trip hop. For Britpopsters, the
    Sixties figure as a 'lost golden age' in a way that's
    alarmingly analogous to the mythic stature of the Empire vis-a-vis
    football hooligans and the BNP. Even more than the insularity of
    Britpop's quintessentially English canon (Kinks, Jam, Small
    Faces, Buzzcocks, Beatles, Smiths, Madness), it's the sheer
    WHITENESS of its sound that is staggering. Take Elastica,
    whose singer Justine Frischmann confessed that she could only
    think of one form of black music she liked: ska (the
    jerkiest, most New Wavey form of black pop ever!). And take
    Blur, whose homage to the U.K's music-hall pop tradition
    manages to sever The Kinks from R&B, Madness from ska, and
    Ian Dury from the Blockheads' fluency in funk and disco.

    Damon Albarn's pseudo-yob accent testifies to a
    nostalgia for a lost white ethnicity, one that's fast eroding
    under the triple attrition of America, Europe and this
    nation's indigenous non-white population. Like his hero
    Martin Amis, Albarn fetishises London's vestigial remnants of
    authentic white trash as "the last truly English people you
    will ever know" (to borrow a lyric from Morrissey, another
    feller with a dubious penchant for skinheads and villains).
    Mozzer is right, this is a dying breed, already displaced by
    a new generation of London youth who speak an alloy of
    Cockney/Jamaican patois/B-boy slang, watch American sci-fi
    movies, grapple with Japanese computer games, and listen to
    sampler-based music like jungle.

    It's these kids--the kind you'll find at drum & bass
    hang-outs like Speed and AWOL--who are today's mods, not the
    sorry-ass mod revivalists at Camden's Blow Up club. Mod
    originally meant 'modernist', meant having utterly
    contemporary tastes in music, clothes, everything. Today's
    junglists, trip-hoppers and techno-heads share their '60s
    ancestors obsession with records (the obscurest track, the
    freshest import) as opposed to bands; the same orientation
    towards Black America and Jamaica; the same anticipation for
    the future. Camden is supposed to have brought back the idea
    of Swinging London, but for five years now pirate radio has
    been making a clandestine cartography of the metropolis,
    bringing the scent of enchantment to forsaken places like
    Peckham and Dalston, as MC's chant out the listeners' paged-
    in "big shouts" and "'nuff respects".

    Perhaps even more than race, it's covert class struggle
    that underpins the Britpop phenom: the fetishising by mostly
    middle class bands and fans of a British working class
    culture that's already largely disappeared, is really a means
    of evading the real nature of modern prole leisure, which
    remains overwhelmingly shaped by rave. Blow Up's avowed
    anti-Ecstasy stance symbolises this perfectly. Not only did E
    usher in a new and still unfolding era of psychedelic music
    based around the drugs/technology interface, but the drug
    also permanently altered the mentality of vast tranches of
    da youth, blasting away reserve, inhibition, emotional
    constipation, everything in the English character that holds
    us back. E and rave transformed the UK into one funky
    nation, but you wouldn't be able to tell that from Britpop.
    From Blur's rickety arrangements to the raunch-less
    turgidity of Oasis, Britpop is rhythmically retarded, to say the least.
    Partly, it's the result of cultural inbreeding, of a white pop tradition
    that's long since distanced itself from the R&B roots that
    made the Beatles and Stones dance bands; partly, it's a
    deliberate avoidance of anything that smacks of lumpen rave.

    Thanks to rave, the most vital sectors of '90's UK
    subculture are all about mixing it up: socially, racially,
    and musically (DJ cut'n'mix, remixology's deconstructive
    assault on the song). Returning to the 3 minute pop tune
    that the milkman can whistle, reinvoking a parochial England
    with no black people, Britpop has turned its back defiantly
    to the future. Here's hoping the future will respond in
    kind, and remember Britpop only as an aberrant, anachronistic
    fad--like trad jazz, the early '60s student craze that
    resurrected the Dixieland sound of 30 years earlier. Perhaps
    Oasis will one day seem as inexplicable as Humphrey
    Lyttleton!

    Where Blur's The Great Escape and Oasis' What's The
    Story) Morning Glory
    bask in the setting sun of England's
    bygone pop glory, Tricky's Maxinquaye and Goldie's
    Timeless gaze into the future. Both Tricky and Goldie are
    black British B-boys mindwarped by the drugs/technology
    interface; both share a strikingly similar set of
    miscegenated influences ranging from art-rock (David Sylvian,
    Kate Busy) to ambient (Eno) to the black avant-garde (Public
    Enemy, Miles Davis); both made the Top 5 of the Album Chart.
    Reflecting what is really going on in Britain in 1995,
    Maxinquaye and Timeless offer two versions of a modern
    inner city blues. Dark, discomfiting, devoid of the callow
    cheer of yer Blurs and yer Supergrasses, yet it's these
    records (and, believe me, a horde of other trip hop, jungle
    and post-rock releases) that are the real reasons to be
    cheerful about British popular music in 1995.




    _____
    And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:44 pm

    mislim naveci problem ovog teksta je taj sto su i klupska muzika i britpop imali slicna ishodista a njihovi autori su se razilazili pa susretali po raznim linijama. pravo pitanje je da li postoji nesto kao "britanski zvuk" kao sto postoji nesto sto se zove amerikana pa makar ga pevali i svedjani.



    mislim da li svi mozemo da sanjamo o misisipiju zato sto je, da se izrazim kolonijalno, jos sirov nedefinisan u nasoj uobrazilji ali moramo biti briti da bastinimo village green. mislim ne znam.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:47 pm

    Postoji britanski zvuk naravno.
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    Post by boomer crook Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:04 pm

    pa bilo bi dobro pitanje sta je to. mislim da je ta britanstina vise "osecaj" nego neka jasna muzicka leksika i narativni toposi.


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    Post by zvezda je zivot Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:27 pm

    erős paprika wrote:mislim naveci problem ovog teksta je taj sto su i klupska muzika i britpop imali slicna ishodista a njihovi autori su se razilazili pa susretali po raznim linijama.

    ne znam da li te razumem. ishodiste svega mozes da nadjes u bitlsima ali to ne znaci da je sve isto niti da su svi bitlsi. albarn nije ni davies. 'not kinks, just small faces; not miniaturists, just small.'

    meni je u tekstu najzanimljivije je ritmicka retardiranost britpop bendova. to je jedna dzentrifikacija koja mora da se istrazi.(albarn je tek u gorillaz otkrio ritam).

    i naravno da postoji britanski zvuk.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:34 pm

    erős paprika wrote:pa bilo bi dobro pitanje sta je to. mislim da je ta britanstina vise "osecaj" nego neka jasna muzicka leksika i narativni toposi.

    Pa jeste 1 sentiment dobar deo toga. I jeste da nije tako lako definisati kao amerikanu, mora se imati malo osećaj za feeling kišom i čađu natopljenih cigala townske železničke stanice i dve žute linije na ivici kolovoza pored.

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