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Zaluzhnyi complained to Pentagon chief about President's Office and asked for 17 million shells – Ukrainska
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Mon, December 4, 2023 at 9:45 AM GMT+1·1 min read
Lloyd Austin, Head of the Pentagon, was informed during his visit that Ukraine requires 17 million shells and that US$350-400 billion worth of force and resources will be essential to liberate the country.
Source: War versus politics. What goes on between Zelenskyy and Zaluzhnyi, an article by Ukrainska Pravda
Quote: "According to Ukrainska Pravda, the calculations of the General Staff show that to fulfil the task of the president to liberate the entire territory of Ukraine requires forces and means for US$350-400 billion."
Details: The General Staff shared some planning ideas with Austin during his visit to Kyiv in November.
Quote: "Austin was told about the need for 17 million shells. He, to put it mildly, was stunned, because you wouldn’t be able to collect so many shells all over the world."
In addition, according to the source, Austin also said that Zaluzhnyi complained to him about the intervention of the President’s Office: "Austin then told us that Zaluzhnyi complained about how everyone impeded him – the President’s Office, this one, that one. Well, it is clear that the president also learned about such conversations. And they do not cultivate trust."
At the same time, the President’s Office is inclined to believe that the dismissal of Zaluzhnyi will contribute to his political career.
The sources of the Ukrainska Pravda from Zelenskyy’s entourage on Bankova Street understand this well, so a significant part of the team of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is categorically against the resignation of the current Commander-in-Chief.
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Sto se tice Zaluznjijevog zahteva, mene licno cudi da Ostin uopste razume sta je 17 miliona artiljerijskih granata, i pitanje je da li je Zaluznji bas to trazio. Sklon sam da verujem, kao sto gore rekoh, da trenutno zapadni mediji krecu da mrace sa ciljem da se neki ocekivani stalemate u narednom periodu predstavi kao uspeh zapada uprkos ruskim napadima i ukrajinskoj nerazumnosti, pa im je bitno da izgrade takav narativ.
Odbijam da poverujem da Valerij Fedorovic, koji je prosao apsolutno sve komandne pozicije, od komandanta voda, preko komandanta cete i bataljona, do komandanta brigade i citave vojske, nema predstavu o broju artiljerijskih granata.
Odbijam da poverujem da Valerij Fedorovic, koji je prosao apsolutno sve komandne pozicije, od komandanta voda, preko komandanta cete i bataljona, do komandanta brigade i citave vojske, nema predstavu o broju artiljerijskih granata.
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Filipenko wrote:Sto se tice Zaluznjijevog zahteva, mene licno cudi da Ostin uopste razume sta je 17 miliona artiljerijskih granata, i pitanje je da li je Zaluznji bas to trazio. Sklon sam da verujem, kao sto gore rekoh, da trenutno zapadni mediji krecu da mrace sa ciljem da se neki ocekivani stalemate u narednom periodu predstavi kao uspeh zapada uprkos ruskim napadima i ukrajinskoj nerazumnosti, pa im je bitno da izgrade takav narativ.
Odbijam da poverujem da Valerij Fedorovic, koji je prosao apsolutno sve komandne pozicije, od komandanta voda, preko komandanta cete i bataljona, do komandanta brigade i citave vojske, nema predstavu o broju artiljerijskih granata.
Predsjednik Rusije Vladimir Putin obišao je danas izložbu o ruskim dostignućima u oblasti naoružanja, prilikom čega mu je prikazana simulacija tastera za nuklearno oružje, koji je on odbio da pritisne
Путин на этой неделе посетит ОАЭ и Саудовскую Аравию
Путин на этой неделе проведет крайне важные переговоры в ОАЭ и Саудовской Аравии
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In Ukraine, a war of incremental gains after counteroffensive stalls - The Washington Post (archive.is)
In Ukraine, a war of incremental gains as counteroffensive stalls
By Washington Post Staff
ZAPORIZHZHIA, Ukraine — Soldiers in the 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade waited for nightfall before piling — nervous but confident — into their U.S.-provided Bradley Fighting Vehicles. It was June 7 and Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive was about to begin.
The goal for the first 24 hours was to advance nearly nine miles, reaching the village of Robotyne — an initial thrust south toward the larger objective of reclaiming Melitopol, a city near the Sea of Azov, and severing Russian supply lines.
Nothing went as planned.
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By day four, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s top commander, had seen enough. Incinerated Western military hardware — American Bradleys, German Leopard tanks, mine-sweeping vehicles — littered the battlefield. The numbers of dead and wounded sapped morale.
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Rather than try to breach Russian defenses with a massed, mechanized attack and supporting artillery fire, as his American counterparts had advised, Zaluzhny decided that Ukrainian soldiers would go on foot in small groups of about 10 — a process that would save equipment and lives but would be much slower.
Months of planning with the United States was tossed aside on that fourth day, and the already delayed counteroffensive, designed to reach the Sea of Azov within two to three months, ground to a near-halt.
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By August, Milley too had begun to air some frustration. He “started saying to Zaluzhny: ‘What are you doing?’” a senior Biden administration official said.
The Ukrainians were insistent that the West simply wasn’t giving them the air power and other weapons needed for a combined arms strategy to succeed. “You want us to to proceed with the counteroffensive, you want us to show the brilliant advances on the front line,” said Olha Stefanishyna, deputy prime minister for European and Euro-Atlantic integration of Ukraine. “But we do not have the fighter jets, meaning that you want us to throw our soldiers, you know, and accept the very fact that we cannot protect them.”
When allies said no, she said, “we heard ... ‘We are fine that your soldiers will be dying without support from the sky.’”
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Ukraine has stopped asking for more tanks and fighting vehicles, despite intensely lobbying for them throughout the first year of the war.
“A lot of the weapons,” a high-ranking Ukrainian military official said, “they were relevant last year.”
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In Ukraine, a war of incremental gains after counteroffensive stalls - The Washington Post (archive.is)
In Ukraine, a war of incremental gains as counteroffensive stalls
By Washington Post Staff
ZAPORIZHZHIA, Ukraine — Soldiers in the 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade waited for nightfall before piling — nervous but confident — into their U.S.-provided Bradley Fighting Vehicles. It was June 7 and Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive was about to begin.
The goal for the first 24 hours was to advance nearly nine miles, reaching the village of Robotyne — an initial thrust south toward the larger objective of reclaiming Melitopol, a city near the Sea of Azov, and severing Russian supply lines.
Nothing went as planned.
...
By day four, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s top commander, had seen enough. Incinerated Western military hardware — American Bradleys, German Leopard tanks, mine-sweeping vehicles — littered the battlefield. The numbers of dead and wounded sapped morale.
...
Rather than try to breach Russian defenses with a massed, mechanized attack and supporting artillery fire, as his American counterparts had advised, Zaluzhny decided that Ukrainian soldiers would go on foot in small groups of about 10 — a process that would save equipment and lives but would be much slower.
Months of planning with the United States was tossed aside on that fourth day, and the already delayed counteroffensive, designed to reach the Sea of Azov within two to three months, ground to a near-halt.
...
By August, Milley too had begun to air some frustration. He “started saying to Zaluzhny: ‘What are you doing?’” a senior Biden administration official said.
The Ukrainians were insistent that the West simply wasn’t giving them the air power and other weapons needed for a combined arms strategy to succeed. “You want us to to proceed with the counteroffensive, you want us to show the brilliant advances on the front line,” said Olha Stefanishyna, deputy prime minister for European and Euro-Atlantic integration of Ukraine. “But we do not have the fighter jets, meaning that you want us to throw our soldiers, you know, and accept the very fact that we cannot protect them.”
When allies said no, she said, “we heard ... ‘We are fine that your soldiers will be dying without support from the sky.’”
...
Ukraine has stopped asking for more tanks and fighting vehicles, despite intensely lobbying for them throughout the first year of the war.
“A lot of the weapons,” a high-ranking Ukrainian military official said, “they were relevant last year.”
...
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Ne znam da li je ujka Misa poludeo ili ga prosto njegove vazdusno-kosmicke snage vole, tek kolicina napada dronovima/lancetima/FAB500 bombama u zoni njegove odgovornosti Herson-Dnjepar je potpuno nenormalna, cak i za uslove artiljerijski intenzivnog rata kakav je ovaj 
Navodno vise desetina FAB bombi, 30+ geolociranih udara lancetima. Ili Ukri planiraju neki masovan prelazak preko Dnjepra, ili je ovaj potpuno nenormalan. Nije mi jasna tolika kolicina udara po nekim malim/velikim ostrvima na Dnjepru. Ukrajinski snimak bude vod koji izlazi iz camca na ostrvce, ruski snimak odgovora 5 vazdusnih udara na 4 coveka koja su se iskrcala.
Navodno vise desetina FAB bombi, 30+ geolociranih udara lancetima. Ili Ukri planiraju neki masovan prelazak preko Dnjepra, ili je ovaj potpuno nenormalan. Nije mi jasna tolika kolicina udara po nekim malim/velikim ostrvima na Dnjepru. Ukrajinski snimak bude vod koji izlazi iz camca na ostrvce, ruski snimak odgovora 5 vazdusnih udara na 4 coveka koja su se iskrcala.
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Ukrainian volunteer visited one of the factories located in one of the partner countries, where the Ukrainian production of artillery shells of 122-mm caliber takes place
The manufacturing process takes place in three shifts to provide the Ukrainian artillery with… pic.twitter.com/jc0jMINr0J
Ukrainian war correspondent Roman Bochkala accidentally revealed the country where Ukraine organized the production of munitions. Azerbaijan became known, noted RTVI correspondent Alexey Sochnev.
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In his Telegram channel, the journalist reported that Ukraine had commenced its own… pic.twitter.com/fDtN4obU3v(@301arm) December 5, 2023
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Nektivni Ugnelj wrote:u, to mi je posebno drago s obzirom na to kako su se rusi poneli prema Nagorekarabahu
Evo šta kažu Azeri:
Украјински војни дописник Роман Бочкала почео је на свом Телеграм каналу да говори о сопственој производњи граната од 122 мм за хаубицу Д-30. Он је уз његове речи приложио фото и видео извештај са пута у продукцију, прецизирајући да је она основана у једној од „земаља партнера“.
А на фотографији из радионице, где Бочкала држи заставу, налази се информативни штанд са симболима азербејџанске групе компанија Палладиум.
Према нашим подацима, ова производња није на територији Републике Азербејџан.
Подружнице компаније налазе се у братској Турској.
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Nektivni Ugnelj wrote:Bukvalno svejedno
Naravno, treći izvor je tu radi potvrde vijesti koja u stvari i nije neka novost, azerski minobacači i municija za njih su prisutni kod Ukrajinaca još od prošlog ljeta, plus su neku silnu naftu i gas proslijedili kao humanitarnu pomoć.
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Ilya Kyva, a former member of Ukraine's parliament who defected to Russia, was assassinated in Moscow Wednesday in an operation carried out by the Ukrainian security service, SBU, Ukraine sources with direct knowledge of the operation tell me. Killed with "small arms." Story TK. https://t.co/3MrLJrQ41G
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Djoković gleda Filipenkovu forehand paralelu i neverue.
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