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    Post by rumbeando Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:21 pm

    ROMANIA - Access to most non-essential public venues except food shops and pharmacies is allowed only for people who are vaccinated or who have recovered from the virus. Shops close at 9 p.m. and the unvaccinated must observe a curfew.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/europe-starts-reimposing-covid-19-restrictions-2021-11-19/

    I kriva im osetno brže opada od naše. Sad je prilično izvesno da ćemo mi opet dočekati novi talas na nezanemarljivom broju novozaraženih.

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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:46 pm

    Ma mi smo potpuno pogubljeni, van sveta, kao i obicno.
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:33 am

    ​Nature objavio odličan pregled trenutnih saznanja o omikronu sa izjavama gomile vrlo relevantnih naučnika, potvrđuje dosta toga što je već kačeno i dodaje nove informacije i objašnjenja:
     
    How bad is Omicron? What scientists know so far

    COVID researchers are working at breakneck speed to learn about the variant’s transmissibility, severity and ability to evade vaccines.

    Barely a week has elapsed since scientists in Botswana and South Africa alerted the world to a fast-spreading new  SARS-CoV-2 variant now known as Omicron . Researchers worldwide are racing to understand the threat that the variant — now confirmed in more than 20 countries — poses to the world. Yet it might take scientists weeks to paint a more complete picture of Omicron, and to gain an understanding of its transmissibility and severity, as well as its potential to evade vaccines and cause reinfections.
    “Wherever I go, everyone says: tell us more about Omicron,” says Senjuti Saha, molecular microbiologist and director of the Child Health Research Foundation in Dacca, Bangladesh. “There is so little understanding of what’s going on, and that’s true, even for scientists.”
    Nature rounds up what scientists know so far about the Omicron variant.

    How fast is Omicron spreading?
    Omicron’s rapid rise in South Africa is what worries researchers most, because it suggests the variant could spark explosive increases in COVID-19 cases elsewhere. On 1 December, South Africa recorded 8,561 cases, up from the 3,402 reported on 26 November and several hundred per day in mid-November, with much of the growth occurring in Gauteng Province, home to Johannesburg.
    Epidemiologists measure an epidemic’s growth using R, the average number of new cases spread by each infection. In late November, South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Disease (NICD) in Johannesburg determined that R was above 2 in Gauteng. That level of growth was last observed in the early days of the pandemic, Richard Lessels, an infectious-disease physician at KwaZulu-Natal University in Durban, South Africa, told a press briefing last week.
    Gauteng’s R value was well below 1 in September — when Delta was the predominant variant and cases were falling — suggesting that Omicron has the potential to spread much faster and infect vastly more people than Delta, says Tom Wenseleers, an evolutionary biologist at KU-Leuven in Belgium. Based on the rise in COVID-19 cases and sequencing data, Wenseleers estimates that Omicron can infect 3 to 6 times as many people as Delta, over the same time period. “That’s a huge advantage for the virus — but not for us,” he adds.
    Researchers will be watching how Omicron spreads in other parts of South Africa and globally to get a better read on its transmissibility, says Christian Althaus, a computational epidemiologist at the University of Bern, Switzerland. Heightened surveillance in South Africa could cause researchers to overestimate Omicron’s fast growth. But if this pattern is repeated in other countries, it’s very strong evidence that Omicron has a transmission advantage, adds Althaus. “If it doesn’t happen, for example, in European countries, it means things are a bit more complex and strongly depend on the immunological landscape. So we have to wait.
    Although genome sequencing is needed to confirm Omicron cases, some PCR tests can pick up a hallmark of the variant that distinguishes it from Delta. On the basis of this signal, there are preliminary signs that cases, although extremely low in number, are rising in the United Kingdom. “That’s certainly not what we want to see right now and suggests that Omicron could indeed also have a transmission advantage in the UK,” Althaus adds.

    Can Omicron overcome immunity from vaccines or infection?
    The variant’s swift rise in South Africa hints that it has some capacity to overcome immunity. Around one-quarter of South Africans are fully vaccinated, and it’s likely that a large fraction of the population was infected with SARS-CoV-2 in earlier waves, says Wenseleers, based on heightened death rates since the start of the pandemic.
    In this context, Omicron’s success in southern Africa might be due largely to its capacity to infect people who recovered from cases of COVID-19 caused by Delta and other variants, as well as those who’ve been vaccinated. A  2 December preprint from researchers at the NICD  found that reinfections in South Africa have increased, as Omicron has spread. “Unfortunately, this is the perfect environment for immune escape variants to develop,” says Althaus.
    How well the variant spreads elsewhere might depend on factors such as vaccination and prior infection rates, says Aris Katzourakis, an expert in viral evolution at the University of Oxford, UK. “If you throw it into the mix in a highly vaccinated population that has given up on other control measures, it might have the edge there.”
    Researchers want to measure Omicron’s ability to evade immune responses and the protection they offer. For instance, a team led by Penny Moore, a virologist at the NICD and the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, is measuring the ability of neutralizing, or virus-blocking, antibodies triggered by previous infection and vaccination to stop Omicron from infecting cells, in a laboratory test. Her team is making ‘pseudovirus’ particles — an engineered version of HIV that uses SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein to infect cells — to match Omicron, which harbours as many as 32 changes to spike.
    Another South Africa-based team, led by virologist Alex Sigal at the African Health Research Institute in Durban, is conducting similar tests on virus-neutralizing antibodies using infectious SARS-CoV-2 particles. So is a team led by Pei-Yong Shi, a virologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, who is collaborating with Pfizer–BioNtech to determine how its vaccine holds up against Omicron. “I was really very concerned when I saw the constellation of mutations in the spike,” he says. “We just have to wait for the results.”
    Previous studies of Omicron’s spike mutations — particularly in the region that recognizes receptors on human cells — suggest that the variant will blunt the potency of neutralizing antibodies. For instance, in a September 2021 Nature paper, a team co-led by Paul Bieniasz, a virologist at Rockefeller University in New York City, engineered a highly mutated version of spike — in a virus incapable of causing COVID-19 — that shares numerous mutations with Omicron. The ‘polymutant spike’ proved fully resistant to neutralizing antibodies from most of the people they tested who had either received two doses of an RNA vaccine or recovered from COVID-19. With Omicron, “we expect there to be a significant hit,” says Bieniasz.

    How will vaccines fare against Omicron?
    If Omicron can dodge neutralizing antibodies, it does not mean that immune responses triggered by vaccination and prior infection will offer no protection against the variant. Immunity studies suggest that relatively low levels of neutralizing antibodies may protect people from severe forms of COVID-19, says Miles Davenport, an immunologist at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia.
    Other parts of the immune system, particularly T cells, may be less affected by Omicron’s mutations than are antibody responses. Researchers in South Africa plan to measure the activity of T cells and another immune player called natural killer cells, which may be especially important for protection against severe COVID-19, says Shabir Madhi, a vaccinologist at the University of Witwatersrand.
    Madhi, who has led COVID-19 vaccine trials in South Africa, is also part of efforts to conduct epidemiological studies of vaccines’ effectiveness against Omicron. There are anecdotal reports of breakthrough infections in all three vaccines that have been administered in South Africa – Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer–BioNtech and Oxford–AstraZeneca. But Madhi says researchers will want to quantify the level of protection provided by vaccines, as well as prior infection against Omicron.
    He suspects that the results will be reminiscent of how the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccine performed against the Beta variant, an immune-evading variant that was identified in South Africa in late 2020. A study led by Madhi found that the vaccine offered little protection against mild and moderate cases in relatively young people, while a real-world analysis in Canada showed greater than 80% protection against hospitalization.
    If Omicron behaves similarly, Madhi says, “we’re going to see a surge of cases. We’re going to see lots of breakthrough infections, lots of reinfections. But there’s going to be this unhinging of the case rate in the community compared to the hospitalization rate”. Early reports suggest that most breakthrough infections with Omicron have been mild, says Madhi. “For me, that is a positive signal.”

    Will current boosters improve protection against Omicron?
    The threat of Omicron has prompted some rich countries, such as the United Kingdom, to accelerate and broaden the roll-out of COVID vaccine booster doses. But it’s not yet clear how effective these additional doses will be.
    Third doses supercharge neutralizing-antibody levels, and it’s likely that this will provide a bulwark against Omicron’s ability to evade these antibodies, says Bieniasz. His team’s work on the polymutant spike found that people who had recovered from COVID-19 months before receiving their jabs had antibodies still capable of blocking the mutant spike. To Bieniasz, those results suggest that people with repeated exposure to SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein, be it through infection or a booster dose, are “quite likely to have neutralizing activity against Omicron.”

    Does Omicron cause milder or more severe disease than previous variants?
    Early reports linked Omicron with mild disease, raising hopes that the variant might be less severe than some of its predecessors. But these reports — which are often based on anecdotes or scant scraps of data — can be misleading, cautions Müge Çevik, an infectious disease specialist at the University of St Andrews, UK. “Everyone is trying to find some data that could guide us,” she says. “But it’s very difficult at the moment.”
    A major challenge when assessing whether a variant’s severity is controlling for the many confounding variables that can influence the course of disease, particularly when outbreaks are geographically localized. For example, reports of mild disease from Omicron infection in South Africa could reflect the fact that the country has a relatively young population, many of whom have already been exposed to SARS-CoV-2.
    During the early days of the Delta outbreak, there were reports that the variant was causing more serious illness in children than other variants — an association that dissolved once more data were collected, Çevik says.
    Researchers will be looking for data on Omicron infections in other countries. This geographical spread, and a larger sample size as cases accrue, will give researchers a better idea of how generalizable the early anecdotes might be. Ultimately, researchers will want to conduct case-controlled studies in which the demographics of people infected with Omicron are carefully matched to the demographics of a comparison group. This will allow scientists to better control for important factors, such as age, vaccination status and health conditions. Data from both groups will need to be collected contemporaneously, because the number of hospitalizations can be influenced by overall hospital capacity in a region.
    And, crucially, researchers will need to control for the level of economic deprivation. A rapidly spreading new variant may reach vulnerable groups more rapidly, Çevik says, by nature of their work or living conditions. And such groups often experience more severe disease.
    All of this will take time. “I think the severity question will be one of the last bits that we’ll be able to untangle,” she says. That’s how it happened with Delta.

    Where has Omicron spread and how are scientists tracking it?
    So far, Omicron has been detected in more than 20 countries, a number that has been steadily ticking up as efforts to track the variant increase around the world.
    But the capacity to rapidly sequence viruses from positive COVID tests is concentrated in wealthy countries, meaning that early data on Omicron’s spread will be skewed.
    Surveillance efforts in Brazil and some other countries are taking advantage of a distinctive result on particular PCR tests for COVID that could allow them to pinpoint potential Omicron cases for sequencing, says virologist Renato Santana at the Federal University of Minas Gerais in Brazil. The test looks for segments of three viral genes, one of which is the gene that encodes for the spike protein. Mutations in Omicron’s spike gene prevent its detection in the test, meaning that samples containing the variant will only test positive for two of the genes.
    Even so, not everyone uses that kit and it could take some time before Omicron’s spread is fully mapped. Despite some guidelines urging countries to sequence 5% of their samples that test positive for SARS-CoV-2, few countries can afford to do so, says computational virologist Anderson Brito at the All for Health Institute in São Paulo, Brazil. And Brito worries that the travel bans some countries enacted against South Africa and other southern African nations in the wake of its Omicron discovery could discourage governments from sharing their surveillance data. “We are punishing those who did a good job,” he says.
    In Bangladesh, which sequences about 0.2% of positive coronavirus samples, researchers would be eager to ramp up genomic surveillance to monitor for Omicron and other emerging variants, says molecular microbiologist Senjuti Saha, a molecular microbiologist and director of the Child Health Research Foundation in Dhaka. But resources are limited. Bangladesh is recovering from a large dengue outbreak, she adds. “In the Global South, we are all worried about COVID, but let’s not forget our endemic diseases,” Saha says. “We can only do so many.”
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03614-z
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:37 am

    Rad o povećanom riziku od reinfekcije omikron varijantom virusa osoba koje su prebolele neku od ranijih varijanti koji se spominje u gornjem članku:
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.11.21266068v2



    (niz se nastavlja)


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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:38 am

    Obavezna vakcinacija i omikron i ceo svet je bezopasno prokužen za godinu dana. Ali jebiga.
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    Post by Amelija Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:41 am

    lalinea wrote:Mene uhvatila prava pandemic fatigue: nista me vise od vesti ne interesuje, jedino kako se nose vakcinisani sa ovim omikronom, da li pune bolnice, da li padaju kao snoplje, da li pune IC krevete...
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    a pošto još ni nema ničeg konkretno nego je sve "čini se da je ovako ali znaćemo tek za XY nedelja". "deluje tako ali još ne može ništa da se kaže", itd, zapravo se svodi na "ništa me više od vesti ne interesuje"
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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:43 am

    To ce uleteti kod nas u punoj meri tamo negde u januaru
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    Post by rumbeando Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:44 am

    Cousin Billy wrote:Obavezna vakcinacija i omikron i ceo svet je bezopasno prokužen za godinu dana. Ali jebiga.

    Moraće da bude na kraju kad globalna katastrofa natera političare na delanje, ali dotad će pomreti gomila ljudi, uglavnom onih koji nisu hteli da se vakcinišu ili nažalost nisu mogli da dođu na red, uz (takođe nažalost) neke vakcinisane.
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    Post by Bleeding Blitva Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:15 am

    U Sloveniji, koja ovih dana bilježi pad epidemioloških trendova u pandemiji koronavirusa, ali ima i dalje vrlo opterećen zdravstveni sustav, razmišljaju o svojevrsnoj novčanoj penalizaciji onih koji nisu cijepljeni, a završe u bolnici zbog covida-19. To je u razgovoru za Slovenski radio potvrdila Bojana Beović, glavna infektologinja u vladinom savjetu za epidemiju, te predsjednica Liječničke komore. "Na jednoj su strani oni koji su bili odgovorni i cijepili se, a na drugoj oni koji se ne žele cijepiti, a unatoč tomu uživaju sve beneficije", kazala je Beović, dodavši da zato dolaze inicijative da necijepljeni koji završe u bolnici plate dodatnu participaciju, odnosni dio troškova svog liječenja. "Mislim da bi participacija za necijepljene bila pravedno rješenje", kazala je Beović.
    Ona se ne zalaže za uvođenje obveznog cijepljenja jer smatra da bi to imalo suprotan učinak i izazvalo javno protivljenje cijepljenju.
    Obvezno cijepljenje u Sloveniji bi bilo moguće samo ako se o tome osigura opći društveni konsenzus, možda čak putem referenduma, navela je Beović. Dodala je kako smatra da bi svojim zaposlenicima neki poslodavci trebali odrediti cijepljenost kao uvjet za rad, ali samo ako za to postoje zakonske mogućnosti. Slovenska vlada donijela je prije dva mjeseca odluku o obveznom cijepljenju protiv Covida-19 za zaposlene u državnoj upravi, ali ju je, do konačne ocjene o tome je li to u skladu s ustavom, suspendirao ustavni sud koji će ovih dana o tome donijeti konačni pravorijek.
    Inače na ovo o penalizaciji necijepljeni kažu može ali onda neću ništa ni uplaćivati u zdravstvo nego ću sam birati kojem privatnom liječniku platiti za skrb.


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    Post by Nektivni Ugnelj Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:23 am

    Ma jok, bolji su ausvajsi
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    Post by Amelija Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:25 am

    To za plaćanje razumem motivaciju, ali mi se nimalo ne sviđa (jer može lagano dovesti i do fora tipa "ako si jeo mnogo slatkiša pa dobiješ dijabetes plaćaj sam")

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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:26 am

    Amelija wrote:To za plaćanje razumem motivaciju, ali mi se nimalo ne sviđa (jer može lagano dovesti i do fora tipa "ako si jeo mnogo slatkiša pa dobiješ dijabetes plaćaj sam")

    S druge strane, 100% podržavam restrikcije za nevakcinisane, a bogami i obavezno pelcovanje.
    Imam potpuno isti stav.
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    Post by kondo Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:29 am

    alo ne dobija se dijabetes od previše slatkiša


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    Post by boomer crook Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:47 am

    kako su ajvi & "onaj moj"?


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    Post by Летећи Полип Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:57 am

    Dijabetes moze od zasladjivaca da se dobije valjda.

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