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Erzsébet Biszak wrote:nama koji smo gazili preko bapskih leševa za par dana ističe šest meseci od prve doze. konkretno meni 21. jula.
nisam u prvom naletu išla da merim antitela, razmišljam se da li da to uradim sada, pa ako pozove predsednik da budem u niskom startu da izgazim još koju nevinu baku ili nekog deku

GoGoGo!!

Nece biti tih baka i deda. Cijenim da ce odziv na trecu dozu biti jako mali. Mesecima su im pricali o "celijskom imunitetu", visegodisnjoj zastiti, itd da bi se, pogotovu oni koji su jedva otisli po prve dve doze, ljudi masovno odlucili i za trecu.

Videces, zalauface se fanatici (u pozitivnom smislu), bice ih, da prognoziram, oko 500-600k, i onda "muk"

Logika je “eto nije im dobra vakcina, traje samo 6 meseci, sad će svakih 6 meseci da traže da se vakcinišemo, zašto baš sad i kome to odgovara?”.

Mór Thököly wrote:Nece biti tih baka i deda. Cijenim da ce odziv na trecu dozu biti jako mali. Mesecima su im pricali o "celijskom imunitetu", visegodisnjoj zastiti, itd da bi se, pogotovu oni koji su jedva otisli po prve dve doze, ljudi masovno odlucili i za trecu.

Bogami, ovi moji ima da idu pa ce sve da pevaju.

Janko Suvar wrote:ne bih mogao da tvrdim, ali ne vidim logiku iza toga. Mislim ne razumem zasto neko ko je primio dve doze ne bi primio i trecu, ocigledno to nije osoba koja misli da je vakcina opasna.


edit: sto kazu na PPPu ne mislim pod time, mi ELITA OVA ZEMLJE, nego generalno dva i po miliona ljudi primilo dve doze, sta bi ih sad nateralo da se predomisle oko trece.

I tih dva ipo milona je bilo povuci potegni, malo tri hiljade,malo kampanja,malo normalnih,malo briga za letovanje itd na jedvite jade. Sa druge strane avax masina ne prestaje i tek sad ce krenuti u još jaču priču o tome kako vakcine ne rade itd. To je nezgodna kombinacija sa sveopštim nepoverenjem i sumnjičavošću koji vladaju u Srbiji. Pritom je ovo prva vakcina koja će tražiti redovno šestomesečno vakcinisanje, bar za sada, i to nosi sa sobom gomilu stvari u smislu percepcije među populacijom,svetskom i domaćom.
Suštinski Mor je upravu, biće to mršav odaziv

Koliko se sećam uvek se pričalo da pošto imunitet od virusa ne traje zauvek neće ni od vakcina. Jedino je bilo pitanje koje pružaju najduži

Мислим да је извесно да ће Делта сој да потисне све остале, и да ће вирус даље да мутира из њега.

Већ сад је измерено да вакцине слабије за око 20-30% према делта соју, а нове мутације би то могле да још смање.

Укратко - мислим да би било време да се вакцине апдејтују према делта соју.

Indijski podaci:

Two doses of Covid vaccine were successful in preventing 95% of deaths due to Covid-19 during the second wave, whereas deaths were lower by 82% among those inoculated with one dose, the government said citing a study conducted by the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) among more than 1.17 lakh [117,000] police personnel – who were at high risk of infection - in Tamil Nadu.
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About 1,17,524 police personnel were analysed for the study out of which those unvaccinated were 17,059, while those who received one dose were 32,792 and those fully vaccinated were 67,673.
The findings of the study show the incidence of death due to Covid-19 was 1.17 per 1000 among those who were unvaccinated, whereas it reduced to 0.21 per 1000 in the group that received one dose of Covid jabs. The death rate dropped to 0.06 per 1000 among people fully vaccinated with two doses of Covid vaccines.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/two-vaccine-doses-gave-95-protection-from-death-against-covid-19s-delta-variant-centre/articleshow/84481507.cms

Wow. The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccines & Immunisation is advising AGAINST vaccinating teens. Baffling decision, given that the benefits are much greater than the risks. Delta has changed everything.https://t.co/yovUDvt9QA

— Prof. Gavin Yamey MD MPH (@GYamey) July 17, 2021

Kanada, koja na početku kampanje dugo nije mogla da dođe do vakcina iako je bila naručila ogromnu količinu, pretekla je SAD po broju potpuno vakcinisanih. Po broju vakcinisanih makar jednom dozom to je učinila još pre dva meseca.

Today's the day that Canada exceeded the US for fully vaccinated. Congratulations
And 15% points ahead in 1st dose.
Your belief in the evidence and support of the science is abundantly clear https://t.co/q8OQprzEYu pic.twitter.com/6Pfdc1UKX1

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 17, 2021

Cuba said on Monday its three-shot Abdala vaccine against the coronavirus had proved 92.28% effective in last-stage clinical trials.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cuba-says-abdala-vaccine-9228-effective-against-coronavirus-2021-06-21/

Cuba said on Thursday its two-shot Soberana 2 vaccine, delivered with a booster called Soberana Plus, had proven 91.2% effective in late stage clinical trials against the coronavirus, following similar news about its Abdala vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cuba-says-second-covid-vaccine-soberana-2-boasts-912-efficacy-2021-07-09/

INBOX: French President Macron issues 6 month prison decree for entering a bar or restaurant without a vaccine passport. Proprietors who allow the unvaccinated into their establishments face 1 year prison sentence and a €45,000 fine. — The Guardian #liberte

— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) July 18, 2021

Ne, tako se to radi. Na zalost. To bih uveo u Srbiji sutra. U Beogradu sam u podrumu pica  pre jedno mesec i nestona vratim rekao - nemam masku, jel mozete da mi iznesete kiselu vodu napolje dacu vam pare. Kaze mi prodavacica - mogu, ma pustila bih ja vas ali inspekcija patrolira da me ne vidi da primam musterije bez maske. Sad je to vrv vec popustilo, ali to je jedini nacin.

Pfizer and BioNTech said they had struck a deal for South Africa's Biovac Institute to process and distribute over 100 million doses a year of their COVID-19 vaccine for the African Union beginning in 2022 https://t.co/9HlYQ9fWHX

— Reuters Africa (@ReutersAfrica) July 21, 2021

My colleagues @hillaalroy and @Meir_Marciano have tonight published the data leading the Israeli MoH to suspect that @pfizer vaccine's immunity is waning. In this graph, you can see infections and hospitalizations in the last 3 weeks, normalized. Chances of a January vaccinnated pic.twitter.com/qFNjeGqNXu

— נדב איל Nadav Eyal (@Nadav_Eyal) July 21, 2021

With 16-59 it's 4 times more likely that a person vaccinated in January will test positive than that inoculated in May. Same caveats apply.
I should emphasize that these are all infections from the last 3 weeks. This analysis is NOT sufficient to argue that the reason pic.twitter.com/ApDTQnct5V

— נדב איל Nadav Eyal (@Nadav_Eyal) July 21, 2021

And here Prof' @dvir_a and @geller_mic from the @TechnionLive reached the same conclusion, of a waning immunity. In order to cancel the caveat of geographical spread, he looked at centers of outbreark.https://t.co/ASQmcdHddd

— נדב איל Nadav Eyal (@Nadav_Eyal) July 21, 2021

Nista, vakcina svakih 6-8 meseci. Srecom, bice ih. (Ne)srecom, bice ih u izobilju za one koji hoce da se imunizuju. Samo da drzave prelome i pocnu to da primenjuju.

Ourwprldindata поставио податке о вакцинацији у Србији.

До јуче је било вакцинисано 5,44 милиона грађана.
Око половине јуна је вакцинисан 5-милионити код нас. Тако да су за неких 35 дана вакцинисали 440 хиљада, од чега је свега нешто преко 100 хиљада прва доза.

То је пад од око 60% у броју датих вакцина, а у пријавама то иде и до 80%.