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Oko para, cini mi se da je Berni za prajmari imao vise para od recimo Bajdena. Tako da prica o demokratama koje finansiraju uglavnom isti ljudi kao GOP ne pije vodu.
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Naravno, ali Berni se finansirao prvenstveno od malih donacija, a Bajdenove šanse su se u jednom trenutku činile prilično jadnim, pa otud i odliv fondera u toj fazi. Tada je bilo kandidata koji su imali mnogo jača finansijska leđa, a naravno, uskoro se uključio i Blumberg. Sada su svi ti fonderi plus Blumberg zalegli za Bajdena.
Ne finansiraju uglavnom isti ali postoji overlap.
Ne finansiraju uglavnom isti ali postoji overlap.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/11/campaign-donations-biden-trump-election-day
Backing Both
Most industries typically hedge their bets and give generously to both candidates and their respective parties. But there are always some notably partisan outliers, and that’s true this year, when there have been notable shifts in oligarchic funding, based on data from the Center for Responsive Politics.
For both Donald Trump and Joe Biden, there is a healthy overlap of industry support in their upper echelons of corporate giving: the FIRE (finance, insurance, and real estate) industry, the health care sector, the defense industry, and lawyers and lobbyists, for instance. But this generosity isn’t even-handed, particularly in a race this seemingly lopsided. With polling casting Biden as on track for a possibly massive victory most of this year, corporate donors have tended to back the presumed winner, with Biden dominating in contributions from various sectors.
"The 2020 contest is poised to shatter campaign spending records."
Finance might be the clearest example. At the end of October, Biden had a more than four-to-one advantage over Trump in donations from Wall Street, shorthand for the securities and investment industry that includes investment banks, private equity firms, hedge funds, and more.
Biden is ending the election with $74 million from Wall Street to Trump’s $18 million, a total that, according to CNBC, dwarfs Barack Obama’s record-breaking fundraising haul from the industry in his two campaigns combined, but falls short of the $87 million Hillary Clinton picked up in 2016. A list of bundlers recently released by the campaign, which is larger than Obama’s 2012 list but substantially smaller than Clinton’s in 2016, has more than thirty executives connected to financial firms. (Trump didn’t release his list.)
It’s a similar story on the health care front. Biden has been the health care industry’s guy since the Democratic primary, likely owing to his vehement and long-standing opposition to Medicare for All and his stable lead in the polls throughout the contest. And that’s continued into the general election.
According to a Business Insider analysis, Biden has outraised Trump among health care executives by nearly double: $47 million to $21 million. He’s raised around $11 million from hospitals and their employees compared to Trump’s $4 million, and he enjoys an advantage against Trump among every element of the health care sector, from chiropractors and medical devices to HMOs and health professionals, except one: dentists, with whom Trump has a narrow edge. (Nurses, meanwhile, have still given more to Bernie Sanders, who dropped out in April, than either Trump or Biden.)
One particularly notable difference is in the pharmaceutical industry. Like the rest of the sector, pharma is overwhelmingly backing Biden this year, and they have shifted their financial backing to down-ballot Democrats, reversing a trend of solid support for the GOP in 2018 and 2016. There’s a catch, though: Reuters has found that while pharmaceutical employees tilt Democratic, backing Biden four-to-one, executives are supporting the GOP by nearly double.
This pro-Biden lean is evident in several other industries. Biden has a roughly five-to-one fundraising advantage among lobbyists, and an even more dramatic, nearly ten-to-one advantage among lawyers, to the point that even lawyers working at firms representing Trump are favoring Biden with their money. Likewise with the defense sector, with whom Biden enjoys a solid lead over Trump — surprising, given Trump’s four years of lavish giveaways to the war industry, but likely explained by Biden’s dominant polling lead.
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Pa i Tramp je imao srece da Comey resi da otvori istragu povodom Hilarinog servera 3 nedelje (ili bese 2) pred izbore. To je i inace nepopularnu kandidatkinju ucinilo jos nepopularnijom. I uprkos tome Tramp je jedva dobio, u pitanju je bilo 90 hiljada glasova rasporedjenih u 3 drzave.staret wrote:Да је Корбин имао ковид и он би добио Џонсона и Торијевце и то лакше од Бајдена што је добио Трампа.
Бајден је једва добио Трампа након страшне задрваствене и економске кризе, једва. У гомили кључних држава је разлика на ивици. Једноставно, Бајден је имао огромну срећу за њега што се тиче избора. Био би почишћен без тога.
Znas ko bi bio pociscen sa virusom ili bez njega? Sanders, Warren, bilo ko od njih ko nije precepiran kao centrista. Jeste, oni koji bi glasali za njih bi sa pesmom na usnama odlazili na glasanje, ali bi ih bilo malo...
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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+1.Erős Pista wrote:
Ovako kako je, jednostavno imaš reakcionarnu partiju koja više ne može da osvoji većinu, jer nema ni program ni narativ kojim može da je osvoji. Ako ne odu u full fašizam, za njih više nema puta (a pitanje je i da li bi im to pomoglo). ALi mogu i dalje da troluju i odlažu nemumitno, i u tom procesu mogu da izazovu još puno, puno štete.
Republikanska partija je partija kontrasa... sve kontra od onog sto kazu Demokrate
Demokrate: Nauka kaze da postoje klimatske promene
Republikanci: Ti ce mi kazes? E bas ne postoje, a vi ste eksremisti!
Demokrate: Obamacare
Republikanci: Repeal and Replace (bez programa za Replace)
Demokrate: Fakti
Republikanci: Fake News
I ovo je sve funkcionisalo dok se nije pojavio Covid19 gde se u fullu pokazalo carevo novo odelo. Covid19 je prvo bio fake news, pa je onda bio Wuhan flu za koji ce Kina platiti, pa je onda bila malo jaca kijavica, pa je onda bilo "ko hoce da se zrtvuje da spase ekonomiju, evo ja cu prvi", pa onda doktori vas lazu, pa je na kraju resenje bilo tu, iza coska, do Nove Godine svi vakcinisani. Ali jebigica, protiv virusa moras da imas i plan i program a ne samo da kontriras.
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"Burundi je svakako sharmantno mesto cinika i knjiskih ljudi koji gledaju stvar sa svog olimpa od kartona."
“Here he was then, cruising the deserts of Mexico in my Ford Torino with my wife and my credit cards and his black-tongued dog. He had a chow dog that went everywhere with him, to the post office and ball games, and now that red beast was making free with his lion feet on my Torino seats.”
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pa naravno, i kad kovid ispari kao i manje vise svi drugi virusi bice da je to bilo zbog "sveobuhvatnog plana"Kirko Skaddeng wrote:Bajden danas objavljuje sveobuhvatni plan borbe protiv kovida (tj. radi ono što se moralo uraditi u aprilu). Ta vest dominira mrežama trenutno.
MNE?
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Pricao ja sa drugom antivakserom, kaze "ja nisam cuo da je iko ikad imao tuberkulozu". Ne mozes protiv takve logike.
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MNE wrote:pa naravno, i kad kovid ispari kao i manje vise svi drugi virusi bice da je to bilo zbog "sveobuhvatnog plana"Kirko Skaddeng wrote:Bajden danas objavljuje sveobuhvatni plan borbe protiv kovida (tj. radi ono što se moralo uraditi u aprilu). Ta vest dominira mrežama trenutno.
MNE?
Nešto te svrbi oko ovog virusa a ni sam ne znaš šta.
Inače španska groznica ubija već 102 godine. Virusi ne isparavaju.
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Margit Savović wrote:Ali Wall Street su SOOO Democrats.boomer crook wrote:razlicita je istorija republikanaca i demokrata. demokrate su daleko vise istorijski podeljene i cine, sto bi rekao kvisko markovic glede cetnickogg pokreta, "komonvelt interesa" dok je GOP daleko centralizovaniji i ideoloski jasnije profilisan.
inace ideja o GOP kao partiji naroda a o demsima, da pozajmim od manitog cire, kao o "prdopuderaskoj eliti" je budalastina. anegdotalno - svi koje sam upoznao da su radili rukama u US of A glasaju za demokrate ako glasaju. svi koji su ili nadzorni organi ili vlasnici glasaju za republikance. pre ces GOPere videti u bruks broders odelima kako zatezu tregere dok gledaju burzovne izvestaje.
kapiram da je ovo delom zato sto portorikanaca koji sljaka nije radnik vec identitet ili tako nesto.
Setimo se Roberta Rubina u Klintonovom kabinetu kada je ukinuo Glass - Steagall zakon i onda nas sve o jadu zabavili. On je dosao iz Goldmana na to mesto.
cisto anegdotalno: nisam upoznao brokera i rentijera koji nisu bili za GOP.
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ni ja marketindziju milionera koji nije za dems
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Janko Suvar wrote:ni ja marketindziju milionera koji nije za dems
i ovo je tacno
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Ima li nekog u Holivudu da je za Republikance? Klint, Mel Gibson, ćale od Anđeline Žoli i...?
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cisto da ne pricamo anegdotalno: kada je trampara navodno odveo radnike od dems u kategoriji glasaca koji privredjuju manje od 50k hitlari je pobedila sa, cini mi se, 51:40 ili tako nesto. mislim da - deo belih glasaca osiromasene srednje klase je glasao za tramparu ali daleko da od toga mogu da se izvlace one grenelovske generalizacije o tome da je GOP sada stranka radnika. to samo cirjakovic ozbiljno shvata posto je njemu radnik valjda samo neko iz spotova brusa springstina dok je svako ko zivi u njujorku truli burzuj.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Majstori glasaju za Trampa bi bilo preciznije.
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+1 na osnovu podataka koji su trenutno dostupni, reklo bi se da bi bilo koji "radikal" lagano izgubio. moj favorit (Voren) bi bila zbrisana.Vilmos Tehenészfiú wrote:Znas ko bi bio pociscen sa virusom ili bez njega? Sanders, Warren, bilo ko od njih ko nije precepiran kao centrista. Jeste, oni koji bi glasali za njih bi sa pesmom na usnama odlazili na glasanje, ali bi ih bilo malo...
James Clyburn ovih dana:
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Летећи Полип wrote:Ima li nekog u Holivudu da je za Republikance? Klint, Mel Gibson, ćale od Anđeline Žoli i...?
james woods je totalno ono GOP manijak i trumper, vince vaughn je kao neki libertarijanac...
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Летећи Полип wrote:Majstori glasaju za Trampa bi bilo preciznije.
pa i to nije bas tacno. ti si lepo rekao da je ovo i podela urbani centri vs. selo. mislim usud geografije.
ovo sto gargamel pise nije nuzno tacno i sbbkb
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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Mislim da je Michael Franzese bio za Trampa.
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nije. šbbkbb je vazda problematičan.boomer crook wrote:ovo sto gargamel pise nije nuzno tacno i sbbkb
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nema pravo glasaTalason wrote:Mislim da je Michael Franzese bio za Trampa.
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Gargamel wrote:nije. šbbkbb je vazda problematičan.boomer crook wrote:ovo sto gargamel pise nije nuzno tacno i sbbkb
recimo ovako: mislim da bi berni uzeo pensilvaniju ali tesko bi flipovao dzordziju i pitanje bi kako bi prosao u nekim drugim tradicionalno plavim drzavama.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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meni je i dalje najvece ludilo da se ovo svelo na nekih 50k glasova.
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And Will's father stood up, stuffed his pipe with tobacco, rummaged his pockets for matches, brought out a battered harmonica, a penknife, a cigarette lighter that wouldn't work, and a memo pad he had always meant to write some great thoughts down on but never got around to, and lined up these weapons for a pygmy war that could be lost before it even started
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na stranu sad bilo kakvo zajebavanje, ako demokrate imaju 3-4 miliona glasova vise i izborni sistem je takav da mogu za 50.000 glasova da izgube, to je katastorfa, to ne moze ostati tako.
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