Severna Makedonija

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For some reason I can't explain

I know Saint Peter won't call my name

One minute I held the key
Next the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castles stand
Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand

I know Saint Peter won't call my name

Name deal in the balance as Russia hints at UN veto


As Zoran Zaev, the prime minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, scrambles to seek political support for a name deal with Greece that drew a low turnout in a referendum on Sunday, Western leaders expressed support for the agreement while Moscow hinted that it could veto the deal at the United Nations Security Council.

NATO’s Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg referred to a “historic opportunity” but stressed that the only way FYROM can join the alliance is by implementing the name deal.

The Russian Foreign Ministry meanwhile noted that the low referendum turnout made its outcome null and void, adding that the conclusions of negotiations between Athens and Skopje could end up being discussed at the UN Security Council.

Zaev must draw another 11 votes to amass the 80 he needs to push the name deal through FYROM’s Parliament and pave the way for his country’s accession to NATO and the European Union. But political opposition to the deal remains strong.

The deal continues to fuel controversy in Greece too. The coalition partner of Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, Defense Minister Panos Kammenos, who has repeatedly expressed his objection to the agreement, said on Tuesday that he expects it to be brought to Parliament “beyond March,” when he and Tsipras have agreed to revisit the issue, and possibly even after national elections which he said will take place later than May.

The conservative opposition New Democracy meanwhile accused the leftist-led government of being too amenable to its interlocutors in negotiations on the Macedonia name dispute and described the approach taken by both Tsipras and Foreign Minister Nikos Kotzias as “amateur” and “opportunistic.”

Commenting on the minutes seen by Kathimerini of meetings between FYROM’s political party leaders about the negotiations with Greece before the name deal was signed in the Prespes lake district in June, ND said it was clear “without a shadow of a doubt” that the government had been ready to agree to the name “Macedonia of Ilinden,” which, it said, would have been “unacceptable.”

The government only changed stance, the conservative party claimed, when ND stressed that the name in question was “the epitome of irredentism by the neighboring country.”

ND also referred to “clear and absolute complicity” by Kammenos, despite the latter’s voiced objection to a compromise with FYROM. “He gave them the pen to sign the Prespes agreement, pretending to disagree while he continues to support the government absolutely,” ND said.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/233223/article/ekathimerini/news/name-deal-in-the-balance-as-russia-hints-at-un-veto

Zuper wrote:

IVANOV PORUČIO ZAEVU: Vreme je za odgovornost za neuspeh referenduma; Očekivana podrška EU i NATO-u od preko 80 odsto smanjila se na 36,9%

"Ne potcenjujte suverenu volju makedonskog naroda. Ne može se govoriti o volji većine u uslovima kada zakonski uslovi referenduma nisu ispunjeni. Izlaznost 36,9 odsto nije volja naroda, već 63,1 odsto onih koji nisu izašli", naveo je Ivanov u svom obraćanju.

MNE wrote:tako i treba, srpska opozicija umjesto da bojkotuje izbore oni izađu i daju legitimitet vlasti, dobre poslaničke beneficije a i skupštinski restoran prilično povoljan

Zuper wrote:Ne bih da ti kvarim zabavu ali na prosle izbore za Sobranje 2016 izaslo je 67% upisanih u ovaj isti spisak.
Zaeva i sve albanske stranke koje su podrzale referendum su sada dobile menja nego na izborima 2016 za Sobranje.
Ni priblizno nisu sa ovim rezultatom potrebnih 2/3 glasova.

Zuper wrote:Zaev je ocekivao 700k minimum jer bi sa time mogao da kaze da je blizu ili na 2/3 Sobranja.
Ovako to ne moze. Zato se pricalo da ce i sa 700k da proglasi veliku pobedu.
Na novim izborima moze biti drugaciji rezultat ali ako se ovo ponovi to ce znaciti da su sve albanske partije(sto sada nije slucaj) i Zaev na samoj granici 50% dok bi VMRO bio ubedljivo najveca stranka u zemlji, narocito medju etnickim Makedoncima.
Takodje to bi znacilo da Zaev nije ni blizu 2/3 Sobranja sto mu treba za promenu ustava.

disident wrote:Jel istina da su makedonke krš ribe?

KinderLad wrote:Dobro, pazi, meni su Albanke potpuni krš, tako da nisam ni očekivao da ću se složiti na primer sa tobom konkretno

sejlor wrote:

KinderLad wrote:Dobro, pazi, meni su Albanke potpuni krš, tako da nisam ni očekivao da ću se složiti na primer sa tobom konkretno

Ma kažem da sam čula za Makedonke, ali izvor mi je dosta nekredibilan. Ja znam samo nekoliko MK žena, nisu lepe. A malo sam tamo boravila da bih stekla neku širu sliku.

A ti lupaš za Albanke, garant si video 3 u životu, plus Editu Tahiri.

gradskimagazin.rs wrote:Makedonke su vredne žene imaju razvijenu tradiciju tkanja odeće, možemo da primetimo da često nose heklane stvari, mada kao i sve mlade devojke danas više nose helanke… Makedonke krasi nizak rast, oblo lice, krupne oči i velike usne. Dame u Makedoniji i dalje “padaju” na  Beograđane. Čak 67%  njih je reklo kako su im neodoljivi momci iz srpke prestonice. Ako niste dobri u krevetu Makedonke Vas neće štedeti, u novinama smo mogli da pročitamo da jedan dečko iz Štipa, pošto je devojka otišla od njega razočarana odlučio da se kazni, pa sebi odsekao…  Nemojte da se igrate, ipak su ove devojke pune iskustva…