Ћина-Средње Краљевство

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Post by Kinder Lad on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:00 pm

Znam, ali to je loš put, vodi u konflikte, to im ne treba. Džaba im uspesi u Africi, ako su Vijetnam i, još gore , Indija naoštreni da im oponiraju gde god mogu, a tu je uvek i Japan. Mislim, ima jedna stvar sa geografijom koju su neki morali da nauče hard way (a i mi bismo o tome mogli da razmislimo) - ako je geografija nekakva, onda moraš ti da se prilagođavaš, jer ona se neće promeniti još minimum nekoliko miliona godina. 

Onako, neutralno, stvar koja najviše "kupuje" ljude za kinesku stvar je kad ljudi vide one železnice i metroe. Tu su 100% uboli zeitgeist. Ništa u spoljnom svetu ne govori "uspeh" kao to. Dok kad jedna, ipak, diktatura, počne da priča o svojoj preeminenciji, to uvek izaziva nervozu drugih.


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Post by Arkady Ivanovich on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:01 pm



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Post by Zuper on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:32 pm

Kinder Lad wrote:Znam, ali to je loš put, vodi u konflikte, to im ne treba. Džaba im uspesi u Africi, ako su Vijetnam i, još gore , Indija naoštreni da im oponiraju gde god mogu, a tu je uvek i Japan. Mislim, ima jedna stvar sa geografijom koju su neki morali da nauče hard way (a i mi bismo o tome mogli da razmislimo) - ako je geografija nekakva, onda moraš ti da se prilagođavaš, jer ona se neće promeniti još minimum nekoliko miliona godina. 

Onako, neutralno, stvar koja najviše "kupuje" ljude za kinesku stvar je kad ljudi vide one železnice i metroe. Tu su 100% uboli zeitgeist. Ništa u spoljnom svetu ne govori "uspeh" kao to. Dok kad jedna, ipak, diktatura, počne da priča o svojoj preeminenciji, to uvek izaziva nervozu drugih.

Nisam siguran da je glavni problem u Kinezima. Ne gube Kinezi nista sa trenutnim stanjem vec neko drugi.
Bolji primer paranoje u odnosa na UK-Nemcka je odnos UK-Rusija i paranoje UK oko ruskog sirenja po Centralnoj Aziji i Dalekom istoku zbog moguceg upada u Indiju i preuzimanja trgovacki Kine.
Iako Rusi nisu imali nikakve planove za Indiju, Britanci su upadali u Buharu, Hivu, danasnji Afganistan(dozvielli neke teske poraze zbog paranoje jer su svuda videli Ruse) ustanci u Iranu...da bi se zastitili od Rusa. A, kada su Rusi stvarno mutili oko Kine, Britanci(i Francuzi) su bili totalno nespremni.
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Post by Kinder Lad on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:36 pm

Nijedan svetski rat neće početi zbog Buhare. Niti je tada mogao.


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Post by Zuper on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:40 pm

Buhara je bila znacajnija za Ruse od Sarajeva.
Ne radi se o znacaju vec oi sledu dogadjaja. Upravo je jedan od glavnih razloga ruske akcije i reakcije 1914 bio motivisan da je Britanija ponizila Rusiju sa Rusko-Japanskim ratom 1905, pa onda novo ponizenje 1908 od Austrije i Nemacke kod aneksije BiH.
Srbija vristi na Rusiju da nesto uradi kao glavni srpski saveznik...
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Post by Kinder Lad on Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:54 pm

Nasli su kome da vriste...  

gugao nasao ovo 

To that end Aehrenthal met the Russian foreign minister, Aleksandr P. Izvolsky, at Buchlau, in Moravia; and, on Sept. 16, 1908, Izvolsky agreed that Russia would not object to the annexation. Aehrenthal pledged that in return Austria would not object to opening the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits to Russian warships, 

Sad treba neka folk pesma prigodnog naziva al ja sam slab u tome


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Post by Hubert de Montmirail on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:11 pm



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Post by Hubert de Montmirail on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:15 pm

to mi je nov hobi


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Post by Kinder Lad on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:16 pm

pa vidim, zato sam i prizivao


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Post by Zuper on Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:47 pm

Tako je bilo. Pasic je pritiskao Rusiju koja je tu tesko ponizena u tom pokusaju tajnog dogovora(nemoj da zaboravis da je ruski ministar spoljnih poslova podneo ostavku kada su ti spisli izasli na svetlost dana, inace to je bio pokusaj Rusije da pridje Nemackoj zbog Britanske podrske Japanu 1904-05, ali Nemci su vise racunali na UK).
Onda je kao odgovor na austrijsku izdaju Rusija organizovala Balkanski savez 1912, iz pozadine, i poceo je Prvi Balkanski rat, sto je debelo ugrozavalo austrijske interese a Rusija dala Austriji jedan veliki srednji prst...Da Nemacka nije kalkulisala oko britanskog ucesca u ratu, Veliki rat bi krenuo u decembru 1912, kao sto su mnogi u okruzenju kajzera Vilhelma II predlagali.

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Post by Zuper on Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:11 pm

I idemo...


US seeks to deny China market economy status in WTO


Trump administration’s filing increases trade pressure on Beijing

The Trump administration has opposed China’s bid for recognition as a “market economy” in the World Trade Organization, citing decades of legal precedent and what it sees as signs the country is moving in the opposite direction under Xi Jinping. The US opposition to China’s efforts to be recognised as a market economy in the WTO came in a legal submission due to be released on Thursday in a case brought by Beijing against the EU. Market economy status would make it more difficult for the US to defend its anti-dumping rulings against Chinese companies at the WTO. The move comes as the Trump administration has stepped up trade pressure on Beijing and as Washington faces growing international isolation over what critics fear is a populism-fuelled attack on the global trading system. In the 40-page filing seen by the Financial Times, the US rejected Beijing’s argument that under the 2001 conditions of China’s accession to the WTO it would automatically be considered a market economy 15 years after joining, when it faced anti-dumping cases from fellow members. The US also argued that regardless of those conditions, China remains subject to the same WTO rules as other members and points to the treatment of eastern European countries such as Poland when they joined the precursor of the WTO while still under Communist rule in the 1960s and 1970s. Those rules, the US contends, allow countries to use prices in third countries when dealing with non-market economies to determine whether goods are being exported below cost to gain an unfair advantage. “The evidence is overwhelming that WTO members have not surrendered their longstanding rights . . . to reject prices or costs that are not determined under market economy conditions,” the US lawyers wrote. US officials say their interpretation is shared by the EU and other countries such as Canada, Japan and Mexico. But a senior US official told the FT that China’s case against the EU illustrated some of Washington’s concerns about the WTO and its dispute settlement system. Chief among those concerns is that the WTO was not set up to deal with a command economy such as China’s. US officials point to Mr Xi’s “Made in China 2025” plan to lead the world in certain strategic industries, as well as the vast role of state-owned enterprises in the economy, to argue that if anything, China’s move towards market principles has slid into reverse. If China wants to be treated like a market economy in the WTO it should behave like a market economy, US officials argue. The case in which China is challenging the EU’s refusal to grant it market economy status is seen by the Trump administration as an important test of the WTO’s dispute system. Washington has expressed scepticism at the way the WTO resolves disputes and has even been accused of seeking to sabotage the system. China has been proceeding more slowly with a similar WTO case against the US. The senior US official also expressed frustration with the fact that in arguing against China’s bid to be labelled a market economy, the US had been forced to deal with at least one past ruling by the WTO’s appellate body that Washington deemed inappropriate.



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Post by Miki on Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:19 pm

Major General Jin Yinan: China Will Not Stand on the Sidelines If Trump Starts a War on the Korean Peninsula

http://chinascope.org/archives/13863
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Post by Gargantua on Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:02 am

BEIJING/TAIPEI (Reuters) - China accused the United States on Thursday of interfering in its internal affairs and said it had lodged a complaint after U.S. President Donald Trump signed into law an act laying the groundwork for possible U.S. navy visits to self-ruled Taiwan.

Tensions have risen in recent days after a senior Chinese diplomat threatened China would invade Taiwan if any U.S. warships made port visits to the island which China claims as its own territory.

On Monday, Chinese jets carried out "island encirclement patrols" around Taiwan, with state media showing pictures of bombers with cruise missiles slung under their wings as they carried out the exercise.

On Tuesday, Trump signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act for the 2018 fiscal year, which authorizes the possibility of mutual visits by navy vessels between Taiwan and the United States.

Such visits would be the first since the United States ended formal diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1979 and established ties with Beijing.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said while the Taiwan sections of the law were not legally binding, they seriously violate the "One China" policy and "constitute an interference in China's internal affairs".

"China is resolutely opposed to this, and we have already lodged stern representations with the U.S. government," Lu told a daily news briefing.

China is firmly opposed to any official exchanges, military contact, or arms sales between Taiwan and the United States, he added.
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Post by KinderLad on Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:33 am

wow, nisam znao da ima ovakvih stvari na tajvaaanu

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Post by Miki on Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:42 pm

Na Tajvanu ima i Aboridžina
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Post by No Country on Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:37 pm

2 Киндер:

Има овде нека глупа реклама са оматорелим хипиком “in search of his perfect beach”. Да знаш да сам почео тако да те замишљам... 

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Post by Zuper on Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:30 am

Scenery of high-speed rail networks in south China's Guangxi
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-09/25/c_136636152_2.htm





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Post by KinderLad on Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:33 pm

No Country wrote:2 Киндер:

Има овде нека глупа реклама са оматорелим хипиком “in search of his perfect beach”. Да знаш да сам почео тако да те замишљам... 

sad tek ovo videh.

kakav crni hipik  ako ista mi smo bili anti-hipi generacija, and I'm no exception  

Perfect beach...to je vec druga stvar 

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Post by Zuper on Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:36 am

China building military base in Pakistan

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/3/china-plans-pakistan-military-base-at-jiwani/

The report specifies that China is planning to build a military base in Pakistan, which would be its second military base in the East. The naval installation will be erected in a key strategic location: the Pakistani town of Jiwani, a port near the Iranian border on the Gulf of Oman and near the Straits of Hormuz, which resides at one of the six proposed economic corridors of the One Belt One Road Initiative, commonly called the Silk Road Economic Belt.

Total direct investment in Pakistan, 2017:

China: $837 million
US: $42 million



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Post by No Country on Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:37 am

Ђес ба Зупер? Јес чуо да сам те номиново?

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Post by Zuper on Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:41 am

Pusti nominaciju, nego je l' sam pobedio?
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Post by No Country on Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:42 am

Имаш одличне шансе.

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