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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Daï Djakman Faré on Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:37 pm

ja i klasicna muzika an zeneral smo ne na vi, nego na Vous

a kamoli ova savremena klasicna mezzo kanal produkcija.


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Post by паће on Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:25 am

Hubert de Montmirail wrote:sad još reci da ne znaš ko je Andre Rieu

Не знам ко је ал' знам шта је, и нисам нешто срећан што то знам.


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by  on Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:04 am

♏️ wrote:Inače, stopirane su na neodređeno isplate poslednje tranše duga vojnim penzionerima koji su dobili državu na sudu za ono staro Šukadinovo krajcovanje, biće da je to neko neoradikalsko preventivno ukopavanje u neću-i-ne-dam poziciju.

Jok, nego natempirali ipak za pred izbore, klasika.
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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Gargantua on Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:34 pm

The Crisis of Democracy in the Western Balkans. Authoritarianism and EU Stabilitocracy


Democracy in the Western Balkans has been backsliding for a decade. There is no single turning point for the entire region, but the downward spiral began a decade ago, and accelerated with the economic crisis in 2008 and multiple crises within the EU that distracted the Union from enlargement. The regression happened in plain sight, but lacked the fanfare or highprofile watershed: There have been no controversial new constitutions, as in Hungary, or major constitutional revisions, as in Turkey next month.

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Over the past decade, all major indices of democracy indicate that the Western Balkan countries have moved away from becoming consolidated democracies. This decline is part of global trend, visible also among EU member states.

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Thus, the countries of the Western Balkans have lost more than a decade in terms of democratisation. This wasted time is even more dramatic considering the ever-closer ties of nearly all the countries of the region with the EU during that period. Moving closer toward the EU, negotiating accession, receiving endless reports and recommendations – none of these steps delivered the promised progress towards democracy (and higher living standards). The process of EU approximation has become unrelated to progress in democratisation. Despite the particular emphasis on democracy and human rights in the Western Balkans the methodology and tools of the EU have not brought the anticipated progress. Democratic institutions, in particular parliaments, remained marginal for day-to-day politics. The EU preferred a leader-oriented approach for its engagement in the region.

The Western Balkan pattern of democratic decline is both institutional and personal. Institutions never were able to develop the independence and strength to weather autocratic leaders, and more democratic governments failed to foster independent institutions. Parliamentary democracy barely took root. Democratic institutions are mere tools for political elites who, no different than in previous cadre politics, alternate between posts in executive, legislative and other functions.

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Beyond the “Russian threat”, other geopolitical crises have been a welcome distraction for autocrats. The refugee crisis and the Western Balkan route have been a convenient opportunity to become indispensible partners in stopping the inflow of refugees and the latent fear of renewed tensions, carefully stroked by political elites results in support for “stability”. Thus, nationalist parties, such as the Radical Party in Serbia, serve as useful threats of alternatives to the incumbents.

In Kosovo, the United States has in the past engineered coalitions to prevent the radical Self-Determination Movement from taking office, and in Montenegro, the ruling Democratic Party of Socialists has used NATO membership to remain an indispensable “factor of stability”.

The result has been the rise of a regional “stabilitocracy”, weak democracies with autocratically minded leaders, who govern through informal, patronage networks and claim to provide pro-Western stability in the region. As this study details, the status of democracy is weak, and declining. The safeguards, such as independent media and strong institutions, are failing, and clientelism binds many citizens to ruling elites through cooptation and coercion. The EU and many of its members have been tolerating this dynamic, some out of persuasion, some out of inertia and some out of laziness. However, the status quo does not provide stability or ensure pro-European governments.

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Continuing the status quo raises several risks, beyond the further decline of democracy:

1. The more entrenched autocratic governments become, the less institutional mechanisms are likely to be sufficient. In combination with entrenchment, the costs and risks of loosing office for autocrats are much greater, both in terms of the loss of access to the clientelistic networks that state capture provides, but also regarding the risk of legal cases brought against them. Thus a change of government becomes harder, more risky and potentially destabilising.

2. The rise of geopolitics is promoted by autocrats who are not in the process of EU integration or reform due to any commitment to the underlying norms and values, but exclusively for strategic reasons. They will switch elsewhere, if the offer is better. Furthermore, they will seek to play off competing external actors. Thus, the increasingly antagonistic global configuration benefits them, allowing them to extract maximum resources from multiple actors. This will bring more geopolitical wrangling to the Balkans, not less.

3. The threat of renewed ethnic conflict continues to linger in the Western Balkans and appears to give the benefit of the doubt to stability. Yet, it is autocrats who consistently stoke the flames of conflict. From the comical, such as the Serbian government sending a train without prior notification to Kosovo with the provocative markings, “Kosovo is Serb” (and stopping it on time), to more dangerous efforts by the Macedonian ruling party to transform the challenge to its undemocratic rule into an ethnic conflict, such ethnic tensions are deliberately instigated to distract from autocratic practices.

4. Losing support for the EU is a likely risk if the symbiosis of stabilitocracy and the EU and its members continue. Support for EU membership is grounded on three premises in the region: the hope for a more stable, predictable and ‘boring’ life; the control of elites by rules and norms beyond their control; and finally the prospect of escaping the role of being at the European periphery. EU integration with local autocrats in power suggests to many citizens that the EU will not hold them to account, and as long as they deliver on issues of interest to member states (closing borders, keeping the region peaceful), they are welcome partners. The EU integration process might thus lose its core constituency, undermining the image of the EU in the region, and especially among its natural allies.

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The countries of the Western Balkans are flawed democracies with democrats. If Weimar Germany was a democracy without democrats, the Western Balkan countries still have a majority committed to democracy. Yet, citizens are deeply sceptical about the institutions of democracy and display authoritarian tendencies. The number of those distrusting government, parliament and parties exceeds those trusting them in Albania, Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro, a stable trend since Eurobarometer has been asking so in those countries. Citizens are alienated from politics and vote for personal, tangible benefits or out of fear. The space for alternative political actors, be it parties or social movements, is therefore significant.

Furthermore, surprisingly large numbers remain committed to EU membership. Citizens might like other countries, but they only want to join the EU. There is no attractive alternative to the EU, despite its membership  not offering immediate prosperity, or even long-term convergence. Yet, citizens are also deeply pessimistic. Some 26 per cent of citizens believe that their country will never join the EU. Ironically the greatest optimists about membership within a few years are in Kosovo. Both excessive optimism, as in Kosovo, as well as dire pessimism, as in Serbia and Bosnia, are potentially debilitating. EU accession has been the most instrumental in advancing democracy and rule of law when membership is credible and realistic.

The region is to a large extent already integrated into the EU, through its citizens, the economic relations with the EU and other ties. These links provide for stronger leverage and more incentives to follow the institutional models and rules of the EU. The shape of the future EU is in flux, but to join and fully benefit from membership will not get easier. The Western Balkans might have been moving closer towards the EU, despite the autocratic behaviour of many of their elites. Full membership with autocrats in charge is unrealistic as the EU and its member states will not want to import unreliable and uncommitted democrats to their midst.


http://www.biepag.eu/publications/the-crisis-of-democracy-in-the-western-balkans-authoritarianism-and-eu-stabilitocracy/
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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by otto katz on Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:51 pm

Gargantua wrote:
The Crisis of Democracy in the Western Balkans. Authoritarianism and EU Stabilitocracy
http://www.biepag.eu/publications/the-crisis-of-democracy-in-the-western-balkans-authoritarianism-and-eu-stabilitocracy/
Da, naravno, ali ne može Evropa, nema daha sad. Čekajte malo da se izbori prvo s Englezima, Amerima, Rusima, Turcima i Arapima. I ko još naiđe. 
Do tada, model Milo. Osiromašeni titoizam, bez socijalizma i bratstva i jedinstva. Ali politički autoritet i nezamjenjljivi faktor stabilnosti.


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by ostap bender on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:20 pm

pa ono putinizam = staljinizam bez utopijskog endgamea.


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Guest on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:39 pm

otto katz wrote:
Da, naravno, ali ne može Evropa, nema daha sad. Čekajte malo da se izbori prvo s Englezima, Amerima, Rusima

Hm, nemacka Evropa u borbi bez daha protiv Engleza, Amera i Rusa. Sto mi je to nesto poznato.
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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:48 pm

Ispred Skupstine su nekakve spontane demonstracije, klinci se okupili, vicu Vucicu pederu, ima ih jedno 300-400 rekao bih po strimu.


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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:49 pm

zove se dogadjaj Protest protiv diktature, valjda pozvali preko fejsbuka




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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:56 pm

bogami imaju gomilu stampanog materijala, nalepnice Gotov je, Protiv nenormalnog, itd...


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Kinder Lad on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:57 pm

Samo nek nastave jos pet godina, odgajice nove nas. Ne da je to nuzno nesto ni dobro ni lose...


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Miki on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:58 pm

E to je možda onaj novi Otpor, video sam ovlaš to na fejsu, kao Novi Otpor, sjebali su prošli bla bla
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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:59 pm

ovo je prava stvar, ovo su pravi demonstranti, urlaju bez prestanka, loze se, izgledaju isto kao onda jbt.

inace danas gledam Ivana Marovica na fejsu, objavljuje rutu Nairobi-Beograd uz reci "Dolazim"   pliz samo nemoj ti vise nista da nam pomazes molim te, sedi u Najrobiju di si, ni za di si nisi.


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by diktotar on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:02 pm

jos beli da pozove glasace da se pridruze i georgiev i teofil mogu na pink da predju


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by diktotar on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:02 pm

Photino Bird wrote:ovo je prava stvar, ovo su pravi demonstranti, urlaju bez prestanka, loze se, izgledaju isto kao onda jbt.



skolovani u soros kampovima u minkenu, sa majorom gasparom


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:03 pm

neko je doneo didzeridu, rekao bih 


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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:04 pm

cuvaj Boze ovu decu 


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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:05 pm

tacno sam znao, neki bacaju kamenje ka Skupstini izgleda, video sam dosta napaljenog lika koji baca nesto ispred sebe jebes  mi mater ako organizatori nisu resili da malo zakuvaju sa murijom.


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Post by diktotar on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:05 pm

pa tako se demonstrira protiv ovog, ne sa kokicama i da neko slucajno ne baci pikavac na beton.


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by plachkica on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:06 pm

mislim da iza ovog protesta stoje oni koji su organizovali drugi krug, a iza njih malagurski,
a iza njega jeremić.
ne bih se ja baš radovala.
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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Kondo on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:07 pm

makedonski scenario! 


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Re: Vučićeva Srbija

Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:07 pm

plachkica wrote:mislim da iza ovog protesta stoje oni koji su organizovali drugi krug, a iza njih malagurski,
a iza njega jeremić.
ne bih se ja baš radovala.

Ovi klinci su izasli protiv Vucica i to je to.


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Post by diktotar on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:09 pm

uigrani su sto se tice skandiranja, spremali su ovo negde svakako


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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:10 pm

nijedne duhovitosti na skupu, samo bes i pokazivanje srednjeg prsta.


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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:10 pm

diktotar wrote:uigrani su sto se tice skandiranja, spremali su ovo negde svakako

Da da, bas to gledam, imaju ekipice koje pocinju dogovorene parole


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