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Post by disident on Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:44 pm

Imajuci u vidu udaljenost koja je preko efektivnog dometa vecine mitraljeza(po onom pop pop pop zvuku sa snimka i broju ljudi, sigurno je mitraljez), lik je samo gadjao u masu desetak minuta. Nista preciznost, samo tehnicke mogucnosti oruzija i dobro planiranje. To lakoci sa kojom je ovo izveo dodaje jos jezivosti


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Post by Zuper on Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:22 pm

#ISIS official statmnt claiming the attack resulted in 600 casualties, was planned in advance & naming attacker "Abu Abdel Bir al-Amriki"

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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:06 pm

Penzioner i pasionirani kockar koji odjednom ubije 58 ljudi.

Imam osećaj da nikada nećemo saznati motiv za ovo.


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Post by MNE on Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:22 pm

pasionirani kockar bi prodao svo to oružje(za koje bi mogao da uzme dobru kintu) i otišao u kazino
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Post by Ointagru Unartan on Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:45 pm

Gargantua wrote:Rispekat za efikasnost, treba pogoditi 500 ljudi nečim, ludilo

Verovatno je jedan deo njih povredjen priliko bezanja, svedoci kazu da je bilo gazenja.


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Post by Joó János on Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:18 am

Paddock's Brother: No Logic to Explain Shooting



MESQUITE, Nev. (AP) — Stephen Paddock lived in a tidy Nevada retirement community where the amenities include golf, tennis and bocce. He was a multimillionaire real-estate investor, recently shipped his 90-year-old mother a walker and liked to travel to Las Vegas to play high-stakes video poker.

Nothing in his background suggests why he would have been on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino with at least 17 guns on Sunday night, raining an unparalleled slaughter upon an outdoor country music festival below.

"I can't even make something up," his bewildered brother, Eric Paddock, told reporters Monday. "There's just nothing."

At least 58 people were killed and more than 500 injured in Paddock's attack on the Route 91 Harvest Festival, where country music star Jason Aldean was performing for more than 22,000 fans. It was the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. The 64-year-old gunman killed himself in the hotel room before authorities arrived.

The Islamic State group claimed responsibility, without offering evidence, but Aaron Rouse, the FBI agent in charge in Las Vegas, said investigators saw no connection to international terrorism.

Asked about a potential motive, Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said he could not "get into the mind of a psychopath at this point."

Public records offered no hint of financial distress or criminal history. Eric Paddock, who spoke with reporters outside his home near Orlando, Florida, said even if his brother had been in financial trouble, the family could have bailed him out.

"No affiliation, no religion, no politics. He never cared about any of that stuff," Eric Paddock said as he alternately wept and shouted. "He was a guy who had money. He went on cruises and gambled."

Stephen Paddock, who had worked previously as an accountant, was "not an avid gun guy at all," though he had a couple of handguns and a long gun, he said.

Eric Paddock also told The Associated Press that he had not talked to his brother in six months and last heard from him when Stephen checked in briefly by text message after Hurricane Irma.

Their mother spoke with him about two weeks ago, and when he found out recently that she needed a walker, he sent her one, Eric Paddock said.

"She's completely in shock," he said.

Eric Paddock recalled receiving a recent text from his brother showing "a picture that he won $40,000 on a slot machine. But that's the way he played."

He described his brother as a multimillionaire and said they had business dealings and owned property together. He said he was not aware that his brother had gambling debts.

"He had substantial wealth. He'd tell me when he'd win. He'd grouse when he'd lost. He never said he'd lost four million dollars or something. I think he would have told me."

Heavily armed police searched Paddock's home Monday in Mesquite, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas near the Arizona border, looking for clues. Paddock lived there with his 62-year-old girlfriend, who authorities said was out of the country when the shooting happened. Eric Paddock described her as kindly and said she sometimes sent cookies to his mother.

Police also searched a two-bedroom home Paddock owned in a retirement community in Reno, 500 miles from Mesquite.

While Stephen Paddock appeared to have no criminal history, his father was a notorious bank robber, Eric Paddock confirmed to The Orlando Sentinel. Benjamin Hoskins Paddock tried to run down an FBI agent with his car in Las Vegas in 1960 and wound up on the agency's most wanted list after escaping from a federal prison in Texas in 1968, when Stephen Paddock was a teen.

The oldest of four children, Paddock was 7 when his father was arrested for the robberies. A neighbor, Eva Price, took him swimming while FBI agents searched the family home.

She told the Tucson Citizen at the time: "We're trying to keep Steve from knowing his father is held as a bank robber. I hardly know the family, but Steve is a nice boy. It's a terrible thing."

An FBI poster issued after the escape said Benjamin Hoskins Paddock had been "diagnosed as psychopathic" and should be considered "armed and very dangerous." He'd been serving a 20-year sentence for a string of bank robberies in Phoenix.

The elder Paddock remained on the lam for nearly a decade, living under an assumed name in Oregon. Investigators found him in 1978 after he attracted publicity for opening the state's first licensed bingo parlor. He died in 1998.

Stephen Paddock bought his one-story, three-bedroom home in a newly built Mesquite subdivision for $369,000, in 2015, property records show. Past court filings and recorded deeds in California and Texas suggest he co-owned rental property.

He previously lived in another Mesquite — the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, Texas — from 2004 to 2012, according to Mesquite, Texas, police Lt. Brian Parrish. Paddock owned at least three separate rental properties, Parrish said, and there was no indication the police department had any contact with him over that time, Parrish said.

He has been divorced at least twice, including marriages that ended in 1980 and 1990. One of the ex-wives lives in Southern California, where a large gathering of reporters congregated in her neighborhood. Los Angeles police Sgt. Cort Bishop said she did not want to speak with journalists. He relayed that the two had not been in contact for a long time and did not have children.

According to federal aviation records, Paddock was issued a private pilot's license in November 2003. The Alaska Department of Fish and Game said he obtained three-day, nonresident fishing licenses in 2009 and 2010.

In 2012, Paddock sued the Cosmopolitan Hotel & Resorts in Nevada, saying he slipped and fell on a wet floor there. The lawsuit was eventually dismissed by a judge and settled by arbitration.

Reached by telephone, Paddock's lawyer at the time, Jared R. Richards, said he could not comment because of client confidentiality concerns.

Paddock kept a vacation home in Heritage Isle, a gated retirement community in Viera, Florida, from 2013 to 2015, said Don Judy, his neighbor there. Judy said gambling, online and in person, was how Paddock claimed to make his living. One time, he said, Paddock showed Judy's wife his laptop as evidence that he had won $20,000 in an online game.

"He never gave me any indication that he was strapped for money or needing money," Judy said. "He said he was a gambler by trade, a speculator."

Judy described Paddock as "a real nice guy" who typically dressed in a polo shirt and shorts and didn't stand out among other part-time residents.

"The second time I met him, he pulled out his keys and he gave me his house key," Judy said.

When Paddock was away, Judy said, he would bring in his mail and the newspaper and walk through the house to make sure the air conditioning was working and that there wasn't any flood damage after storms.

"He would call me every so often to ask if everything was OK with the house. Just so ordinary. ... There's nothing to profile this guy by."


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Post by MNE on Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:38 am

što se kriminalistike tiče nesam školovao ali ovo se baš nekako ne uklapa u profil masovnog ubice, osim ako je povukao neku traumu iz djetinjstva od oca pa mu se to aktiviralo tek sad
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Post by Joó János on Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:41 am

da, zasada stvarno deluje kao black swan event. videcemo sta ce istraga iskopati do kraja dana...


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Post by No Country on Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:42 am

Коцкарски губитак уме да тригерује суицид. Можда је прокоцкао апсолутно све. А онда је одлучио да се мало освети мрском свету. Ко је био у Вегасу може да разуме да човечанство уме да се учини сасвим непривлачним.

А онда - ту је технологија. И ту је поента целе приче. Све док је могуће убити оволико људи - то 
ће и да се дешава.

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Post by MNE on Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:35 am

u vegasu stotine njih dnevno prokocka sve, neki i više nego što je on ikad imao... ovo je planirano duže vremena, našli su 23 komada oružja u hotelu, to je 200 kila oružja ako su većina puške + par hiljada metaka preko toga + oprema...kolko puta je to morao da unese a da nikome ne bude sumnjiv

ova njegova azijatkinja je pošla valjda par dana ranije a već se razvodio sa par žena, moguće je da je zbog toga malo skrenuo
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Post by Hubert de Montmirail on Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:44 am

ovo i treba da se desava ako je moguce lagano uci u hotel sa pola tone oruzja


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Post by паће on Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:05 am

MNE wrote:
ova njegova azijatkinja je pošla valjda par dana ranije a već se razvodio sa par žena, moguće je da je zbog toga malo skrenuo

Нисам пропратио тај део... с ког краја Азије? Сибир, Индија, Израел, Турска, Авганистан...?


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Post by MNE on Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:48 am

mix Indija Kina tako nešto
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Post by diktotar on Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:43 pm

Hubert de Montmirail wrote:ovo i treba da se desava ako je moguce lagano uci u hotel sa pola tone oruzja

kazu da je unosio pojedinacno ali svejedno. neka se drze i dalje vekovne tradicije i ljudske slobode da se svako oruzje moze rutinski posedovati.


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Post by Gargantua on Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:51 pm

yup

And then, there is Bill O'Reilly.

The disgraced Fox News host weighed in on the national tragedy Monday with a blog post in which he commented on the massacre by stating: 'This is the price of freedom.'

O'Reilly, 68, then went on to say that gunman Stephen Paddock and others who have perpetrated mass shootings in this country have every right to 'arm themselves' with weapons 'no matter how threatening they are.'

'Once again, the big downside of American freedom is on gruesome display,' said O'Reilly at the top of his post before going on to describe Paddock as a 'psychotic gunman.'

O'Reilly then tossed off a few facts about the case, including the number who were killed and injured as well as some personal details about Paddock and how the crime unfolded from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort.

He glossed over the fact that Paddock had stockpiled 20 rifles however, and that these weapons may have been modified to fire off a steady stream of bullets into the helpless crowd of 22,000 people enjoying the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

'The murderer had a number of deadly weapons in his room and you can count on the gun control debate to ramp up,' wrote O'Reilly.

'But having covered scores of gun-related crimes over the years, I can tell you that government restrictions will not stop psychopaths from harming people.'

O'Reilly then said that 'psychopaths' would always be able to 'find a way' to carry out horrible attacks like the one that unfolded Sunday, before adding that the 'polarizing' nature of the gun control debate made any chance of a compromise impossible as 'there is no common ground.'

It was at that point in his piece that O'Reilly fired off the two lines that have enraged many of his detractors, a technique he has been putting to good use ever since he debuted on Fox News two decades ago.

'This is the price of freedom. Violent nuts are allowed to roam free until they do damage, no matter how threatening they are,' said O'Reilly.

'The Second Amendment is clear that Americans have a right to arm themselves for protection. Even the loons.'
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Post by Daï Djakman Faré on Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:14 pm

jebote


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Post by diktotar on Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:18 pm

oni smatraju da ovakvi dogadjaji nisu skupa cena za agendu koje se drze.


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Post by beatakeshi on Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:30 pm

Merak nema cenu.
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Post by rumbeando on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:26 pm

The disgraced Fox News host weighed in on the national tragedy Monday with a blog post in which he commented on the massacre by stating: 'This is the price of freedom.'


https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/915188893548396544
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Post by Daï Djakman Faré on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:29 pm

LOL


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Post by Daï Djakman Faré on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:49 pm

haha, kako se ocajno attention kurva ISIS da se ocese o publicitet ubice, jao gledajte malo u nas, konvertovo se u islam evo i dali smo mu badass muslim ime Abu Abed al Bir Al-Amriki da foks njuz emituje, pls i mi smo bili nekad badass masovne ubice nemojte da zaboraviteee  bounce  

The Islamic State terror group claimed suspected Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock as one of its own through its news agency Amaq Monday, however, with the investigation into the shooting still in its early stages, it remained unclear if the 64-year-old Nevada resident had any connection to ISIS.

ISIS not only took credit for the attack, it also gave Paddock a rare honor of his own Arab name, Abu Abed al Bir Al-Amriki, while calling him a “soldier of the caliphate” and a “martyr.” While the first few words in the name are more basic Arabic, the last part, Al-Amriki, translates to “the American.” Giving Paddock a name is rare for the terror group and doing so is a sort of honor or distinction that he had perfectly followed God’s plan. The group provided no evidence that it was behind orchestrating the attack or of Paddock’s membership.

The terror group, which over the last few months has been driven out of its strongholds in Iraq and Syria by U.S. and Russian coalitions, also claimed Paddock had converted to Islam several months ago, according to CBS News. But a U.S. official told CBS there were no “early signs” of Paddock having any links to radical Islamic groups.


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Post by diktotar on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:51 pm

isis se sam namece za novu epizodu south parka u ovom slucaju


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Post by Mr.Pink on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:51 pm

ISIS propo.


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Post by MNE on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:36 pm

problem je što im je ova budala dala nove ideje
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Post by паће on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:38 pm

Мислиш да ће да навале да се коцкају, јер то диже борбени морал?


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