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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Ointagru Unartan on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 1:45



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Re: a future to believe in

Post by plachkica on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 2:02

Bog je velik!


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Bluberi on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 2:23

Ne deluje mi uverljivo.
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Re: a future to believe in

Post by plachkica on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 2:24

Ni meni, ali lepo zvuči, mogu da se poradujem u ovoj turobnoj noći.
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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Bluberi on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 2:31

To da
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Post by Ointagru Unartan on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 2:33

Za vest ne znam, ali taj izvor deluje kredibilno.


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Kinder Lad on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 3:26

evo sad i Hillary podrzava 15 dolara po satu u celoj zemlji.

u evropi se zbog takvih stvari gube izbori, ali ovo je ocigledno drugo

u medjuvremenu 

http://pitchfork.com/news/64865-coachella-2016-bernie-sanders-introduces-run-the-jewels-via-video-message/
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Post by Bluberi on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 3:56

Komunistički znak večeras u Njujorku
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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Bluberi on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 4:38

Thomas Piketty Feels The Bern
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Post by Bluberi on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 4:46

Patetični NYT je zaboravio Hilarine transkripte.
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Post by William Murderface on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 9:33

“The way he kept tagging me as a typical rich guy who only cared about rich Republicans — it was very tough, and very effective,” said Richard Tarrant, a software executive who was the Republican Senate nominee in 2006 and ran many aggressive television ads. “Bernie knew that I earned my money myself, that my wealth was first-generation. But that didn’t matter.”


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by bruno sulak on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 9:41

zli starac


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by паће on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 10:11

Bluberi wrote:Komunistički znak večeras u Njujorku

Ma хау јес ноу, нему они појма.


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by William Murderface on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 10:12

Igraju na stereotip zlog starca i zajedljivog Jevrejina. Amanda Markot duradu nesto!


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by AnaDilajt on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 11:21

[size=39]Clooney: Sanders is right about 'obscene' amount of money in politics[/size]
Actor George Clooney, a major fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, said that it’s “ridiculous” and “obscene” how much money goes into presidential campaigns.

In an excerpt of an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” taped for Sunday, Clooney was asked if he thought the price of admission to attend a fundraiser the actor is hosting is an “obscene amount of money.”
“Yes, I think it’s an obscene amount of money,” Clooney responded. “You know we had some protesters last night when we pulled up in San Francisco – and they’re right to protest, they’re absolutely right, it’s an obscene amount of money. The Sanders campaign, when they talk about it, is absolutely right, it’s ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics, I agree.”
The actor and his wife Amal hosted a fundraiser on Friday night for the former secretary of State, charging couples $353,400 to sit at a table with Clinton and the Clooneys. They are throwing another high-dollar fundraising event Saturday night.
In March, Clinton’s opponent, Bernie Sanders, used the word “obscene” to describe the price of admission for Clooney’s fundraiser.
“It is obscene that Secretary Clinton keeps going to big money people to fund her campaign,” the Vermont senator said on CNN's "State of the Union."
“I have a lot of respect for George Clooney,” he added. “He’s a great actor. I like him. But this is the point. This is the problem with American politics, is that big money is dominating our political system, and we are trying to move as far away from that as we can.”


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by zvezda je zivot on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 12:20

Kinder Lad wrote: http://pitchfork.com/news/64865-coachella-2016-bernie-sanders-introduces-run-the-jewels-via-video-message/

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Post by zvezda je zivot on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 12:44

izislo ono sto spajk li snimio



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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Bluberi on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 15:52

Kako, zašto, i zbog čega George Monbiot kad sve lepo opiše nema snage da na kraju napiše Sandersovo ime.
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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Kinder Lad on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 15:58

Pa zato što nije za Sandersa. Lepo kaže

What the history of both Keynesianism and neoliberalism show is that it’s not enough to oppose a broken system. A coherent alternative has to be proposed. For Labour, the Democrats and the wider left, the central task should be to develop an economic Apollo programme, a conscious attempt to design a new system, tailored to the demands of the 21st century.

ne treba lomiti preko kolena, jutro je pametnije od večeri...

Drugim rečima, ako ti ide loše (u bilo čemu)...najbolje nastavi tim putem dok smisliš nešto bolje. Dok ne smisliš.

Dok ne smisliš...


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by bruno sulak on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 15:59

pa nije ni za hilari onda.


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Kinder Lad on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 16:03

Ne znam za koga je ali ovakav tekst sa ovakvim krajem može samo da demorališe. Bukvalno bi bilo korisnije da je napisao - ovo uglavnom ne valja, ali sada MORA da se popravlja, nego što je napisao - ovo qrcu ne valja al daj polako, da sednemo da vidimo, da smislimo, neki idealan model...


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by bruno sulak on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 16:05

pa mislim da treba razlikovati politicku agitaciju i neko, hajmo reci, naucno misljenje. treba podrzati bernija ali vec smo videli da su klasicni modeli danas nedostatni i lomljivi. poziv za misljenje je sasvim ok. nakon sto izaberemo bernija za predsednika, naravno.


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by zvezda je zivot on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 16:11

tu se ne slazes sa zizekom. on bi da samo da 'mislimo' a da ne uzimamo vlast jer ionako ne znamo sta cemo sutradan da radimo. a kad se pojavi alternativa, to je utopija jer ce se prekosutra ionako pojaviti novi problemi.

naravno to vazi za sve sem za ex-sirizu jer je ortak s varufakisom.

inace to trazenje novog modela je vec teren neoliberalizma. nama ne treba novi model nego neprestana borba.


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by Kinder Lad on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 16:15

ostap bender wrote:pa mislim da treba razlikovati politicku agitaciju i neko, hajmo reci, naucno misljenje. treba podrzati bernija ali vec smo videli da su klasicni modeli danas nedostatni i lomljivi. poziv za misljenje je sasvim ok. nakon sto izaberemo bernija za predsednika, naravno.

ma to je ok, nego ovo je problem

What the history of both Keynesianism and neoliberalism show is that it’s not enough to oppose a broken system. 

kako to oba pokazuju?

I ovo

The left has produced no new framework of economic thought for 80 years. This is why the zombie walks

Pa prijatelju sam si pokazao i dokazao u tekstu zašto nije proizvela.

No. First show me the money. Politika je, pre svega, praksa.


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Re: a future to believe in

Post by bruno sulak on Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 16:16

nama treba mobilizacija. i to sanders dobro radi kao i korbin, podemos i siriza. sto vise popularnih pokreta i novi nacini mobilizacije i militantnosti.

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