Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by William Murderface on Wed May 24, 2017 11:53 pm

Ne, pa oni su... Pa oni nisu...


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Post by ostap bender on Thu May 25, 2017 12:01 am

joj daj jos nesto, ne drzi nas u mraku.


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by Filipenko on Thu May 25, 2017 1:27 am

ostap bender wrote:zato sto je sputnjik isto sto i v2? pa tupsoni, ovo bi filip mogao da ladno stavi kao najbolju propagandu staljinizma.


Ili još bolje, docrtam malo da bude jasnije...


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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Thu May 25, 2017 7:21 am




pa onda red ovoga:



praćen ovim:

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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Thu May 25, 2017 7:23 am



 

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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

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Joj, Slaviša.
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Post by sejlor on Thu May 25, 2017 8:21 am

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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by ostap bender on Thu May 25, 2017 8:56 am

bezveedne reorije  

prvo citira filozofski recnik o kibernetici a onda to slavisa verbatim ponovi o marksizmu.


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Post by beatakeshi on Thu May 25, 2017 9:00 am

Na stranu ocene, ovaj Tasić je funkcionalno nepismen.
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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by William Murderface on Thu May 25, 2017 10:17 am

ostap bender wrote:bezveedne reorije  

prvo citira filozofski recnik o kibernetici a onda to slavisa verbatim ponovi o marksizmu.



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Post by ostap bender on Thu May 25, 2017 10:24 am

pa invertirani staljinisticki ekonomizam


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by William Murderface on Thu May 25, 2017 10:34 am

Da, da, tačno, sve što im se ne uklapa, ne postoji, odnosno, "lažno" je.

Ama, meni nikako ne ide u glavu kako taj citat o kibernetici može biti pandan onom o arijevskim muškarcima, kao što mi nije jasno ni kako Sputnjik treba da bude pandan Fau raketama.

Za brkove su na najjačem tlu, brkovi su brkovi!


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by Filipenko on Thu May 25, 2017 12:03 pm

William Murderface wrote:Da, da, tačno, sve što im se ne uklapa, ne postoji, odnosno, "lažno" je.

Ama, meni nikako ne ide u glavu kako taj citat o kibernetici može biti pandan onom o arijevskim muškarcima, kao što mi nije jasno ni kako Sputnjik treba da bude pandan Fau raketama.

Za brkove su na najjačem tlu, brkovi su brkovi!


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by Zuper on Thu May 25, 2017 12:20 pm

Filipenko wrote:
ostap bender wrote:zato sto je sputnjik isto sto i v2? pa tupsoni, ovo bi filip mogao da ladno stavi kao najbolju propagandu staljinizma.


Ili još bolje, docrtam malo da bude jasnije...



Ne bih reko da Nemci nemaju delimicne zasluge i za desnu sliku. Ne kao u SAD ali...




Operation "Osoaviakhim"
The Soviet plan to deport thousands of German specialists into the USSR received code name Osoaviakhim, after formally volunteer Soviet organization which in 1930s united many enthusiasts of aviation, rocketry and related disciplines. Some two weeks prior to the operation, Serov received a list of people targeted for deportation. It included 2,200 specialists in the fields of aviation, nuclear technology, rocketry, electronics, radar technology and chemistry. They would be assigned to various industrial enterprises of the USSR:
Number of people to be deportedSpecializationAssigned ministryOfficial overseeing the deportation
1,250
aircraft, cruise missile expertsMinistry of Aviation IndustryMajor General S. I. Filatov, MVD chief in Brandenburg
500
rocket specialistsMinistry of ArmamentsMajor General S. A. Klepov, MVD chief in Saxonia
350
radar and radio expertsMinistry of CommunicationsColonel Svirin
30
specialists in solid rocket propulsionMinistry of Agricultural Machine building-
25
gyroscope, navigation system expertsMinistry of Ship Building-
Counting family members, the total number of people assigned for deportation would reach 6,000 - 7,000 people.



Given a pathological obsession of the Soviet government with secrecy, it was a remarkable phenomenon that Joseph Stalin did allow hundreds of Soviet specialists, many of them recent GULAG inmates, travel to postwar Germany and work side by side with their German colleagues on the development of rocket technology. Inevitably, the whole endeavor had a temporary nature, aimed to train Soviet cadre in the industry that was virtually nonexistent in the USSR at the time. From the outset of the program, Soviet authorities had grave concerns about engaging thousands of Germans, who had relative freedom of movement, into the sensitive defense project.

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Operation Paperclip

Operation Paperclip was a secret United States Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians (many of whom were formerly registered members of the Nazi Party and some of whom had leadership roles in the Nazi Party), including Wernher von Braun's rocket team, were recruited and brought to the United States for government employment from post-Nazi Germany (after World War II).
The primary purpose for Operation Paperclip was for the U.S. to gain a military advantage in the burgeoning Cold War, and later Space Race, between the U.S. and Soviet Union.
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Post by Daï Djakman Faré on Thu May 25, 2017 12:43 pm

William Murderface wrote:Za brkove su na najjačem tlu, brkovi su brkovi!


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by William Murderface on Thu May 25, 2017 1:20 pm

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Jedno od najuticajnijih dela na svetu, Veličanstveni izvor Ajn Rend - od danas na našim, ali i policama knjižara!



gledam super im je tviter nalog, imaju i kampanju #pomerigradnjanina i ovaj plakat sa suptilnom notom disleksije




edit. aaaa nema dalje, Ajn Rend rigorozan mislilac
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Rigorozno!


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by паће on Thu May 25, 2017 1:32 pm

William Murderface wrote:

Rigorozno!

То и ја кажем. Сваки пут. Кад се наждерем па ригнем грозно.


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by Filipenko on Thu May 25, 2017 2:33 pm

Zuper wrote:
Filipenko wrote:


Ili još bolje, docrtam malo da bude jasnije...



Ne bih reko da Nemci nemaju delimicne zasluge i za desnu sliku. Ne kao u SAD ali...




Operation "Osoaviakhim"
The Soviet plan to deport thousands of German specialists into the USSR received code name Osoaviakhim, after formally volunteer Soviet organization which in 1930s united many enthusiasts of aviation, rocketry and related disciplines. Some two weeks prior to the operation, Serov received a list of people targeted for deportation. It included 2,200 specialists in the fields of aviation, nuclear technology, rocketry, electronics, radar technology and chemistry. They would be assigned to various industrial enterprises of the USSR:
Number of people to be deportedSpecializationAssigned ministryOfficial overseeing the deportation
1,250
aircraft, cruise missile expertsMinistry of Aviation IndustryMajor General S. I. Filatov, MVD chief in Brandenburg
500
rocket specialistsMinistry of ArmamentsMajor General S. A. Klepov, MVD chief in Saxonia
350
radar and radio expertsMinistry of CommunicationsColonel Svirin
30
specialists in solid rocket propulsionMinistry of Agricultural Machine building-
25
gyroscope, navigation system expertsMinistry of Ship Building-
Counting family members, the total number of people assigned for deportation would reach 6,000 - 7,000 people.



Given a pathological obsession of the Soviet government with secrecy, it was a remarkable phenomenon that Joseph Stalin did allow hundreds of Soviet specialists, many of them recent GULAG inmates, travel to postwar Germany and work side by side with their German colleagues on the development of rocket technology. Inevitably, the whole endeavor had a temporary nature, aimed to train Soviet cadre in the industry that was virtually nonexistent in the USSR at the time. From the outset of the program, Soviet authorities had grave concerns about engaging thousands of Germans, who had relative freedom of movement, into the sensitive defense project.

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Doduse, ovo je mnogo poznatije,





Operation Paperclip

Operation Paperclip was a secret United States Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians (many of whom were formerly registered members of the Nazi Party and some of whom had leadership roles in the Nazi Party), including Wernher von Braun's rocket team, were recruited and brought to the United States for government employment from post-Nazi Germany (after World War II).
The primary purpose for Operation Paperclip was for the U.S. to gain a military advantage in the burgeoning Cold War, and later Space Race, between the U.S. and Soviet Union.


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Re: Orošavanje na veličanstvenom izvoru

Post by паће on Thu May 25, 2017 2:39 pm

"Јел' знаш ти ко је носио браду!?"

"Маркс, Енгелс и Лењин. А ко се вама мота по глави?"


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