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Post by Blind Lime Pie on Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:45 pm

ja bih voleo da gledam film o ovom poduhvatu


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Post by ostap bender on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:22 pm

ili ova rasisticka lujka koja snima film o ovom 'poduhvatu'



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Post by William Murderface on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:23 pm

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Post by ostap bender on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:28 pm

maskiras se i onda to objavis na tviteru


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Post by No Country on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:41 pm

Опет глуме Канађане по Европи?
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Post by ostap bender on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:47 pm

da, da... to sam i ja pomislio kada sam video kacket


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Post by Gargantua on Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:43 am

BBC reportaža iz Srbije:



http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/40814884

How one man (and his kit bag) is giving cricket-loving refugees hope in Serbia
By James Montague
From the section Cricket



Refugees wait to bat at Belgrade's only cricket pitch

Vladimir Ninkovic has arrived early to discover that, just an hour before the scheduled start of play, most of his players are still asleep.

The general secretary of the Serbian Cricket Federation is standing in the middle of the Krnjaca Asylum Center, a few miles outside of the capital Belgrade, waiting to begin what has become a regular match for him and the Afghan and Pakistani refugees who live here.

Twice a week he comes to the camps, by public bus, often dressed in cricket whites, eliciting strange looks from his fellow commuters. At his feet is a bag stuffed full of batting pads, balls and a single box. The handle of a bat is poking out of the zip.

"There are not many cricketers in Serbia," he says. "And definitely not at this time of the morning."

Though there are several well-established clubs and a full national team, as well as youth teams, cricket is not wildly popular in Serbia.

But in 2014 something changed. It became a key transit point on the Western Balkans refugee route in to Europe. Tens of thousands of Iraqis, Syrians and Afghans passed through here, heading for the Hungarian or Croatian border, hoping to get to Germany or Austria.

When those routes were closed last year, thousands were effectively stuck in Serbia - unable to go home, and unable to get past the newly erected fences on the Hungarian border.

The vast majority left were young men and boys from Afghanistan and Pakistan. And the game of choice to pass the time in the refugee camps was cricket.

Enter Vlada, and the Serbian Cricket Federation, which in 2015 was given associate membership by the International Cricket Council.

The Serbian commissariat for refugees recognised that a strange game they barely understood appeared to be doing some good. After a few phone calls, they found Vlada and asked him to organise some matches.

"We have about 10,000 refugees in 17 camps across the country," says 35-year-old Vlada, who began coming to the camps in April.

"During these two hours, twice a week, it gives them a few hours where they don't think of themselves as refugees or migrants or inmates, just good cricketers," he says. "They are extremely passionate and enthusiastic about the game. And they have quality. I'd say 70% of these players could play club-level cricket in England."


The scorers take shelter from the Balkan sun

About 800 refugees live here, in tidy, well-kept lines of barracks that once hosted Croatian and Kosovan refugees from the Yugoslav Wars.

One Afghan player who plays for Vlada's Mirijevo club is Noor Ahmad Sherzad.

"I used to have a job as a police officer in the anti-narcotics department," the 32-year-old says of his life in Afghanistan. "We had a lot of problems with smugglers from the Taliban side. They called me and threatened me, so I left."

Sherzad is one of the few refugees here who has claimed asylum in Serbia. "Serbia is a transit country," explains Vlada. "Less than 1% want to stay.". For Sherzad, there were few options.

"When I was in Afghanistan I played for my police team in the academy," he says. "When I got here, after three months I told my lawyer: 'I like to play cricket.' And he called Vlada. I went to training. I am happy, I am alive and have friends, a small job and a cricket team."

About 30 young men and boys have now gathered around Vlada as he organises the teams. It is a half-hour journey on two public buses to Belgrade's cricket pitch. Many are unaccompanied children, which means their official guardian - a social worker - has to accompany them to the game.

"They are crazy for cricket. It is like with basketball in Serbia," says Miroslav Budimir, who is responsible for 40 boys, some as young as 10.

Many have had horrific experiences at the hands of people traffickers and various different border guards. Many have been beaten severely or jailed for long periods. Sometimes, the frustrations boil over in the camps. There was a riot involving 100 refugees in the camp the previous week.

"They are isolated form the rest of the population and sometimes it gets tense here," he says. "We had some fights, some unpleasant situations. But cricket is the best way to just release the pressure."


A makeshift match under way

Belgrade's single pitch can be found next to a small airstrip, near the Padinska Skela prison. A grey, concrete factory dominates one side.
Other members of the Serbian Cricket Federation are here, setting up a mobile scoreboard before handing out fresh fruit and water to the players. Kings XI will take on RCB.
"These are good people who respect the refugee," says Prince, a young Afghan refugee in his mid-20s who will captain the RCB team.

He fled his country after his brother joined the military. The Taliban threatened his family, he says, so his brother insisted he leave. Prince travelled most of the 5,000 miles by foot.
"I was in a closed camp for seven months in Hungary. It was like a jail. It was very bad. They do not treat you like a human; they treat you like an animal," he recalls. "But we are so happy in this country. Inshallah, we are playing cricket in Serbia. I'm so happy."


Vlada (far left) oversees the toss with Prince (second from right)

Vlada walks the two captains out to the wicket and flips a five dinar coin. Prince's RCB team win the toss and bat first, setting a challenging 141-8 in a match reduced to 15 overs thanks to the intense Balkan summer heat. Sixes are sprayed around, the ball sometimes disappearing for long periods when it lands in tall grass past long-on.

Vlada is the umpire, holding his hardback scorebook and meticulously noting every run, wide and no-ball. Occasionally there are heated arguments between players over the speed of play or overly aggressive bowling. But Kings XI chase down the target to win by four wickets.
A few days later, Vlada is back in the camps. This time he takes a bus to the Obrenovac camp. He arrives with plastic wickets to set up regular tape-ball cricket tournaments.

This is the bigger of the two camps. About 1,000 young men and boys live here and roughly 100 come out to watch the tournament, won by the Afghan Champions, beating the Afghan Eagles off the last ball.

As ever, Vlada notes each run and ball in his hardback book. "The underdog won - the Afghan Champions won by one wicket," he says, reading from his book of statistics.

Serbia's refugees are not going anywhere soon. Many are now talking about staying. For Vlada, that could mean a sudden influx of talented players in to Serbian cricket.
"We heard from the camps that young guys are now thinking about Serbia as an option, which previously wasn't happening," he says, before leaving the Obrenovac camp with his bag full of bats and balls, taking the next bus back to the city.

"Once the summer passes and the cold weather settles in, maybe they will change their minds."


Refugees play tape-ball cricket in the Obrenovac camp
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Re: seoba naroda

Post by plachkica on Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:19 pm

U medijima se ponovo stvara pozitivna slika izbeglica. Što je dobro.
Loše je što se sav bes namenjen Vučiću može sručiti na random izbeglice.
Imamo za to kapaciteta.


Vučić ponudio porodici Nuri državljanstvo Srbije FOTO
Beograd -- Predsednik Srbije Aleksandar Vučić ponudio je državljanstvo porodici 10-godišnjeg Farhada Nurija, izbeglice iz Avganistana.

Dečak je prodajom svojih crteža učestvovao u prikupljanju novca za lečenje sedmogodišnjeg dečaka iz Srbije.

Vučić je obećao posao ocu porodice, kako bi mogli da ostanu u našoj zemlji.

Predsednik je kazao da mu je želja da zadrži "slikarski, ali i ljudski talenat" Farhada Nurija i njegove porodice.

Vučić je malom Farhadu ponudio stipendiju, da bi mogao da nastavi da slika, a njegovom ocu posao, te državljanstvo za sve.

Farhad Nuri, koji sa roditeljima i braćom privremeno boravi u Centru za izbeglice u Krnjači, kazao je da bi želeo da ostane u Srbiji, iako je porodica nameravala da ode u Švajcarsku.

“Moje je da ponudimo da budete građani Srbije. Mi bismo bili počastvovani ako bi vi to prihvatili", rekao je Vučić.

“Znam koliko ste dugo putovali da biste došli do Srbije, sa koliko probelma ste se suočavali i da je vaša konačna želja da idete u Švajcarsku. Hoću da vam ponudim, a imate vremena, pošto planirate u januaru da idete u Švajcarsku, da ostanete u Srbiji. Srbija nije bogata kao Švajcarska, ali molim vas da obiđete Beograd i bolje ga upoznate, te vidite koliko je ovo lep grad. Ako se odlučite da ostanete u Srbiji mi bismo vam dali državljanstvo odmah“, kazao je Vučić prilikom prijema porodice Nuri u sedištu predsednika Republike.

Ukazao je da Srbiji nedostaju gipsarski moleri, te dodao da je siguran da će otac dobiti posao, od kojeg će porodica moći pristojno i lepo da živi u Sbriji.

Dodao je da ima više firmi koje su zainteresovane da zaposle Farhadovog oca, jer im nedostaju majstori njegovog profila i zanata.

Ponovio je da je Švajcarska bogatija zemlja, ali dodao da je uveren da je Beograd mnogo bolji i lepši grad od bilo kog drugog.

“Beograd je tri puta veći nego najveći grad u Švajcarskoj, veći je od Ciriha, Bazela, Ženeve, Berna“, podsetio je on u razgovoru sa porodicom Nuri i dodao da ne govori da će porodica u Srbiji živeti u bogatstvu, ali će živeti pristojno, ako prihvate ponudu.

Farhadu je poručio da sa svojim talentima, a naveo je da je za samo deset meseci naučio odlično da govori engleski, može da bude i predsednik Srbije, ako to nekada bude želeo.

“Ja sam peti predsednik Republike Srbije, ti bi mogao biti 10. ili 11. Stavrno mislim da bi mogao da budeš predsednik, samo da radiš vredno. Imaš sva prava da budeš predsednik Srbije“, poručio mu je Vučić.

“Naša politika je politika iskrenog prijetaljestva, solidarnosti i ljubavi prema izbeglom narodu i ljudima koji traže svoju budućnost, a ako vidite budućnost u Srbiji dobrodošli ste u našoj zemlji. Sve je na vama, niko vas ne tera ni na šta“, naglasio je on.

U razgovoru sa predsednikom Fahrad Nuri je rekao da bi on želeo da ostane u Srbiji.

“Želim da živim u Srbiji. Dobro se osećamo u Srbiji“, kazao je na srpskom i zahvalio se Srbiji na svemu što čine za njegovu porodicu.

“Kada sam crtao nešto tako u Avganistanu, niko nije obraćao pažnju na to“, rekao je Farhad.

Predsednik Vučić je upitao Farhada koliko je trebalo da ga naslika, na šta je mališan rekao da je predsednika slikao od osam do 11 sati.

Susretu predsednika Vučića sa porodicom Nuri prisustvovali su ministar odbrane Zoran Đorđević, komesar za izbeglice i migracije Vladimir Cucić, kao i gradski menadžer Goran Vesić.
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Post by Kondo on Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:21 pm

A drzava Srbija u 2017, do sada dodelila 1 azil.


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Post by паће on Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:28 pm

Колико је то одсто од потражње?


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Post by Kondo on Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:13 pm

mislim oko 1


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Post by hatama on Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:40 pm

heh

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Post by MNE on Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:39 pm

“Beograd je tri puta veći nego najveći grad u Švajcarskoj, veći je od Ciriha, Bazela, Ženeve, Berna“,


a tek Daka kolika je, džaba li ubiše toliki put 
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:48 am

ovo je postavio Zoran Zivkovic


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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:49 am

i pitao "gde je njoj stipendija Vucicu"
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Post by ostap bender on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:55 am

to je tek pocetak ludila. sacekaj malo da se okuraze. btw, vucic nije orban ili erdogan. vucic je, trenutno, makron.

btw, gde je hubert.


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Post by Gargantua on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:28 am

valjda na durmitoru, odsečen od sveta/neta 
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Post by ostap bender on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:35 am

pametan covek


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Post by Kondo on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:52 am

ne znam, ja pokusavam da desifrujem o cemu se ovde zapravo radi. uvek su 2 opcije, da je to neki proizvoljni tok svesti i operacija pa je videvsi akciju koju su vesara i ceca napravili u kampu resio da podigne na PR nivo iznad, u nadi da je sezona godisnjih odmora takva da nece imati rasisticki backlash od tihe vecine.

sa druge strane, treba priznati da je njegova poseta parku kod hotela bristol  u leto 2015 u sustini odredila OK odnos drzave prema izbeglicama (u razumnim okvirima) pa se ovo isto moze citati kao uvod u neke nove i relaksiranije azilne politike koje su u srbiji baš loše loše. prošle godine je od preko 500 zahteva (od kojih je većina i odustala) na kraju dato 16 azila a ove godine je još gore, 130 zahteva, 1 azil. 

sasvim je moguće da on zna nešto što mi ne znamo i da postoji neka ideja iza svega. npr trenutno se dešava jedan vrlo čudan i dosta brz (unutar datih okolnosti) proces pražnjenja zemlje od izbeglica, za par meseci se broj spustio sa 7700 na 4400. mislim da to bas ne moze bez neke agende iza svega i da je mozda jedan od ciljeva da se oslobode kapaciteti u kampovima (max 6500) za deportaciju onih koji budu bili odbijeni u nemackoj ili skandinaviji a zbog ko zna cega ne budu bili eligible za slanje u maticne zemlje a da ce ceo proces biti pracen ozbiljnim parama za programe za ove ljude.


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Post by Filipenko on Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Kondo wrote:mislim da to bas ne moze bez neke agende iza svega i da je mozda jedan od ciljeva da se oslobode kapaciteti u kampovima (max 6500) za deportaciju onih koji budu bili odbijeni u nemackoj ili skandinaviji a zbog ko zna cega ne budu bili eligible za slanje u maticne zemlje a da ce ceo proces biti pracen ozbiljnim parama za programe za ove ljude.


Sve se bojim da će pare biti potrošene na te ljude...
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Post by Kondo on Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:27 pm

To negde nije ni napisano


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