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Post by William Murderface on Wed May 10, 2017 1:44 am

We can use an example to explain this situation. Let’s imagine, father and his some come into library, and son ask father: “Who printed this book?” Father says: “A human printed the book?” And son asks him again: “But, who printed a human?”
We can’t ask: “Who printed a human?” He wasn’t print, he was born. Human being is something different than book. In same way, we can’t ask “Who created First living being?” because he is different than we. He is eternal.
In this way, we can conclude three things. There must exist superior intelligence who created very complex living systems; this superior intelligence has two very important characteristics: it is live and eternal. This superior intelligence who is live and eternal, we call Creator in the science.
So, we can conclude that First Cause of all causes, without cause, must exist.

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Post by plachkica on Wed May 10, 2017 2:24 am

No Country wrote:
This means, if we scientifically prove that Creator exists, we can scientifically solve problem of death.

She blinded me with science!

Него, зашто се сви највећи злотвори увек & непогрешиво у`вате алтернативне медицине? Постоји ли какво научно објашњење?


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Kod njih se dolazi kad zakaže tradicionalna medicina, od njih očekuju čudo,
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zato i nema mnogo prijava.

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Post by No Country on Wed May 10, 2017 3:19 am

Има и тога да је тај "алтернативни исцелитељ" увек помало и гуру, очекују се ту једна посебна врста понизности, потчињавања, лечени је по правилу приморан да преузме и какав дебело ишчашени светоназор, травке, мириси и шарена светла нису довољни. Мислим да ове Радован-Караџић-types управо то привлачи, неограничена могућност манипулације људском несрећом.
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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Wed May 10, 2017 7:50 am

William Murderface wrote:
We can use an example to explain this situation. Let’s imagine, father and his some come into library, and son ask father: “Who printed this book?” Father says: “A human printed the book?” And son asks him again: “But, who printed a human?”
We can’t ask: “Who printed a human?” He wasn’t print, he was born. Human being is something different than book. In same way, we can’t ask “Who created First living being?” because he is different than we. He is eternal.
In this way, we can conclude three things. There must exist superior intelligence who created very complex living systems; this superior intelligence has two very important characteristics: it is live and eternal. This superior intelligence who is live and eternal, we call Creator in the science.
So, we can conclude that First Cause of all causes, without cause, must exist.

Ajme.

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Post by Filipenko on Wed May 10, 2017 9:43 am

No, sa ovakvim uglednim ličnostima koje mu oponiraju, može on slobodno da pravi mitinge i tribine do prekosutra.




Profesor sociologije i kulturolog dr Ratko Božović je objasnio da mladi ljudi često ulaze u ekstremne priče jer imaju određene predrasude, te ovakve ideje na njih deluju kao "crvena boja na bikove".

On takođe navodi da je često problem to što omladina nije dovoljno načitana i obrazovana, te nemaju dovoljno znanja i iskustva za formiranje sistema vrednosti.

- Treba svakog saslušati, ali uz argumentacije. To što on priča je ekstremizam u mišljenju, ali to može lako da proizvede ekstremizam u ponašanju. Vi možete da udarite na mejnstrim, ali radikalno rešiti problem povratkom u neizvesno, tradicionalno iskustvo deluje suludo – objašnjava profesor i takođe navodi da nisu dobre ideje koje su previše drastične, kad nema tolerancije i alternative.







Psihoanaliničar Zoran Milivojević navodi da su "Srbi kao narod demonizovani, i da mladi ljudi odrastaju sa nekom vrstom negativne optužbe, i da tako počinju da pripadaju grupi koja je agresivna, nasilna, negativna".

On, međutim smatra, da većina mladih sebe ipak vidi kao moderne Evropljane.

- Međutim, ovakvih pojava ima gde mladi imaju ekstremne stavove ima i u Evropi. Nije to samo kod nas - kaže za "Blic" Zoran Milivojević.


Doduše, ovo jeste moderni evropeizam, odnosno produkt onoga što moderna Evropa želi da napravi od nas kako bismo se bavili gajenjem nemačkih svinja.
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Post by паће on Wed May 10, 2017 9:52 am

No Country wrote:Има и тога да је тај "алтернативни исцелитељ" увек помало и гуру, очекују се ту једна посебна врста понизности, потчињавања, лечени је по правилу приморан да преузме и какав дебело ишчашени светоназор, травке, мириси и шарена светла нису довољни. Мислим да ове Радован-Караџић-types управо то привлачи, неограничена могућност манипулације људском несрећом.

Није само то, прц је у томе што још неутврђен постотак болести бива излечен упркос лечењу. Као што постоје психосоматске болести, постоји и психосоматско излечење. Пролазак кроз те мере које гуру гура је, у доста случајева, управо онај додатни играч на страни одбране тела и ето победе. Плацебо у облику врача.

Е сад колико таквог понашања има и у званичној медицини, зајебано би било истраживати. Гуру нема машину која прави "пинг", он има нешто друго, што пацијенту делује подједнако мистично. Постепено долазим до закључка да је хомеопатија најбоља - ради на чисто веровање без нуспојава. Ови остали би сви да секу, пеку, боду и трују.


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Toliko.‏ @parun_ 6m6 minutes ago


Doktori leče decu, ne SMSovi. SMSovi plaćaju lečenje. Ljudi šalju SMSove, ne roboti. I to je sistem takođe. Spontani sistem.
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Post by William Murderface on Wed May 10, 2017 1:24 pm

Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:
William Murderface wrote:

Ajme.

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Razbija logiku.

If we employ semiotics in the analysis of rocks, living organisms and lights, we can reach a few very interesting conclusions.
We can scientifically conclude that when we see nature and living systems in it, we must conclude that Creator exists. This conclusion were adopted from scientists who established basics of modern science, like Isaac Newton, Louis Pasteur, father of microbiology, Gregor Mendel, father of genetics, Michael Faraday, Johan Kepler, and other.
Because we can see that science say that Creator existed, in next step we are interesting to identify Him. It is logical to conclude that if Creator is created human beings who can speak, this means that Creator also can speak. But, where He speaks?
Scientists like Newton, Pasteur, Mendel and others, claim that Creator speaks in one book, which we call Bible. Semiotics of rocks, lights and other phenomena in the nature can reveal us are they were right.
What are implications of conclusions based on semiotics in this case? If Creator exist, all human beings are brothers, because all we have same Father. Maybe someone think that our parents created us. Many times we can hear that father tell to his child: “You must listen to me, because I give you life.” It is biologically wrong to say: “I give you life.” Parents can’t give life to their children; they just transmit the life to their children. Giver of life is Creator. He can create us without our parents, as first humans – this is creation. Also, He can create us with our parents – this is birth. Again creation of human being is called resurrection.
Another implication is, if Creator exist, who create us one time, it is logically to conclude that He can create us again. This means, if we scientifically prove that Creator exists, we can scientifically solve problem of death.


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Post by Ointagru Unartan on Wed May 10, 2017 1:47 pm

Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:

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Post by plachkica on Thu May 18, 2017 2:28 pm

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Post by William Murderface on Thu May 18, 2017 2:30 pm

Kam je riba list?


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Post by паће on Thu May 18, 2017 2:38 pm

Опала јесенас. А маслине што се размножавају паприком? Двоглаве птичурине?


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Post by beatakeshi on Thu May 18, 2017 2:42 pm

Boro Čorbo je bio bolji.
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Post by Filipenko on Thu May 18, 2017 3:59 pm

Vidim, Ršumoviću ne smeta ukrštanje Srba sa Jevrejima.
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Post by паће on Thu May 18, 2017 4:01 pm

Ма то су ствари за основну школу. Бар су биле у моје време. Беше

- шта се добија кад се укрсте јеж и глиста?

- бодљикава жица.


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Post by No Country on Thu May 18, 2017 4:09 pm

Или Македонац и октопод.
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Post by beatakeshi on Thu May 18, 2017 7:35 pm

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2017&mm=05&dd=18&nav_category=12&nav_id=1261931

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Post by William Murderface on Thu May 18, 2017 7:42 pm

Ma nije zato, nego zato sto mu je zastitnik zglajzao sa mesta ministra, a novi hoce da udomi nekog svog pajtosa. Tesko mi je da pustim suzu.

Šef kabineta ministra prosvete Nemanja Đorđević rekao je tom prilikom da se novinari nisu držali dogovorene teme o maloj maturi, te da on "može da prekine pres konferenciju zato što je šef kabineta".

"Ja sam kriv, mene mrzite", rekao je Đorđević novinarima.

Novinari su prekidani pri pokušaju da saznaju mišljenje ministra prosvete o doktoratu ministra unutrašnjih poslova Srbije Nebojše Stefanovića na Univerzitetu Megatrend i akreditacijama viskoškolskih ustanova, a na pitanje da li će se pridružiti peticiji svojih kolega za preispitivanje doktorata vlasnika Megatrenda Miće Jovanovića, ministar je rekao da to nije posao ministarstva.

"Čemu nam služe komisije za akreditaciju, čemu služe univerziteti, senati, rektorati, šta se tamo dešava? Svako treba da radi ono što mu je posao. Posao ministarstva je da sistemski rešava stvari.

Ukoliko sistem predviđa da se reaguje u određenoj situaciji, ukoliko nadležno ministarstvo u određenoj situaciji reaguje - reagovaćemo", izjavio je Verbić.

Ministar je prethodno na zatvorenom sastanku sa direktorima škola u Jablaničkom i Pčinjskom okrugu razgovarao o sprovođenju male mature.

"Očekujemo da prođe bez problema. Sve je spremno. Zajednički je utisak da želimo da završni ispit postane jedan normalni, sastavni deo školovanja. To će se videti onoga trenutka kada nam više ne budu bile potrebne policijske marice da razvoze testove", kazao je Verbić.

Nebojša Stefanović je prošle godine doktorirao na Megatrend univerzitetu, a za delove tog doktorta trojica naučnika iz Srbije koji rade na visokoškolskim ustanovama u Velikoj Britaniji, tvrde da su plagijati. Nakon tih tvrdnji naučnika, objavljenih na sajtu Peščanika, taj portal je izložen hakerskim napadima.


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Post by diktotar on Thu May 18, 2017 7:49 pm

meni uvek pretesko kad razni takvi uhlebi zakukaju jer ih takvi isti smenjuju posto je doslo njino vreme.


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Post by William Murderface on Thu May 18, 2017 7:51 pm

Ja mislim da je ovaj bio okej na tom mestu, da nije bio uhljeb i da ce ga izvesno zameniti neko mnogo gori, ali jbg, bio si zamenik ministra u Vucicevoj vladi. Kontrarevolucija jede svoju decu.


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Post by beatakeshi on Thu May 18, 2017 7:56 pm

Pri tom je to vlada koja ima dosta neizvesnu sudbinu, mada ne verujem da će Pantela nešto da menja. "Tim koji dobija..."
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Post by diktotar on Thu May 18, 2017 7:56 pm

pa ne znam, ne mogu lako da prihvatim to ok je lik za bilo koga ko udje u dil sa vucic mafijom i slicnim. tim pre sto u takvim situacijama vrlo dobro uvek znaju kako i zasto su dospeli na pozicije. struka, kompetencije, cv, i sl druge primarne stvari za takva mesta su tada uvek u drugom planu. zato ovako i funkcionise.


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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Fri May 19, 2017 12:19 am

US edition

The Dangers of Empathy

Just over 14 years ago, my daughter almost died minutes before entering the world. My wife had to have an emergency C-section. The whole thing was harrowing. Someday I’ll tell the whole story. But because of that experience, and simply because I am a father, I could empathize with late-night host Jimmy Kimmel’s story about his son’s birth. His story is almost surely more harrowing than my story, but that doesn’t matter. Empathy is the ability to feel what someone else is feeling.

Empathy is different than sympathy or compassion. Sympathy is when you feel sorry for someone. Compassion is when you do something about it. But empathy is something else. Researchers studying the brain can actually see how the various centers controlling certain feelings light up when we observe or imagine the experiences of others. “If you feel bad for someone who is bored, that’s sympathy,” writes Yale psychologist Paul Bloom in his brave and brilliant new book, Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion, “but if you feel bored, that’s empathy.”

Bloom, a liberal transplant from Canada, distrusts empathy because empathy is like a drug. It distorts our perspective, causing us to get all worked up about an individual or group. He compares it to a spotlight that illuminates a specific person or group, plunging everything and everyone else into darkness.
govno debelo iskopalo Bluma pa rešilo da je, od svih jebenih načina na koje će da brani ono republikansko zlo od zakona, baš pravi način da pokaže da empatija sa ocem deteta rođenog sa ozbiljnom bolešću ne valja.

“When some people think about empathy, they think about kindness. I think about war,” Bloom writes. He’s got a point. Look at the Middle East today. Sunni nations empathize with the plight of suffering Sunnis, and that empathy causes them to further hate and demonize Shiites. Many people around the world empathize with the Palestinians, blinding them to the legitimate concerns of Israelis. And vice versa.

Adolf Hitler was a master of empathy — for ethnic Germans in the Sudetenland, Austria, and elsewhere. The cause of nationalist empathy for the German tribe triggered profound moral blindness for the plight, and even the humanity, of Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs.
aha, fakin Hitler.

Human beings are naturally inclined to sympathize and empathize with people like them. There has never been a society where people didn’t give priority to helping family and friends over strangers. This tends to blind us “to the suffering of those we do not or cannot empathize with,” writes Bloom. “Empathy is biased, pushing us in the direction of parochialism and racism.”

Look at the intractable debate over the phrase “black lives matter.” The slogan itself is a kind of spotlight, argue supporters, highlighting the legitimate complaints of African Americans. But it also blinds them to why others respond to the term by saying “all lives matter.”


But where I agree with Bloom is that empathy alone is dangerous and can distract us from rational thought and meaningful compassion. Which brings me back to Jimmy Kimmel. His story about his son aroused a riot of empathy across the nation. And he used that response to make an argument about health-care policy that was largely devoid of any consideration of the facts, trade-offs, or costs of what is the best way to deal with people, including babies, who have pre-existing medical conditions.
He was largely wrong on the facts: Babies with dire medical conditions are covered by their parents’ insurance, and when their parents are uninsured, doctors don’t just let the baby die on the table. That doesn’t mean there aren’t inequities in the system or that the current health-care regime is anywhere close to perfect.
a riot of empathy!

znači kad se razgovara o health care policy, nije trenutak da se skreće pažnja na konkretne instance ljudske patnje vezane za zdravstvo jer će nas to odvratiti od hladne i racionalne diskusije. uostalom, lekari ne puštaju da im bebe umiru u bolnicama. dakle, nothing to see here, you bunch of Hitler-lovers.
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Post by William Murderface on Fri May 19, 2017 12:32 am

Ali zato kad se priča o, recimo imigracionoj politici, imperijalnim ratovima ili svetom nacionalnom interesu, empatija je sasvim okej, štaviše, baš je super što smo biased!

I don’t go as far as Bloom in detesting empathy. It seems to me not only natural but also defensible to give priority to figuratively kindred people. England is a lot more like America than, say, Singapore. That similarity has forged a long and important bond, both formally (e.g., treaties and shared institutions) and informally in terms of an emotional and cultural bond. If England were attacked, our empathy for its plight would inform our response in ways that I think are important and useful.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447365/jimmy-kimmel-baby-son-health-care-empathy

Jer, kad pozivaš na empatiju sa decom koja će izgubiti healthcare, onda je to Hitler, ali kad pozivaš na ratne angažmane u korist "sličnih sebi", onda to nema nikakve veze sa Hitlerom!


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