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Post by William Murderface on Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:14 pm

Baš lep intrevju.

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  • PrskatorVlado:
    Pofukani po običaju jugoslaveniše, a ovaj bradati mesopust suptilno srbendiše


  • Viking1986:
    eto nakon malo pohvala na članak mate mijića večernji me odmah vrati u surovu stvarnost ! I ide velikosrpska propaganda opet .. zašto ga niste pitali što misli o izjavama patrijarha irineja ?! I ovaj je poznat po velikosrpskim težnjama i tezama o "srpskoj dalmaciji " što je nedavno pisalo u slobodnoj dalmaciji i odmah naišlo na veliko odobravanje "Hrvatskih" ljevičara i antifa parazita koji su ga prozvali čovjekom mira ?! Majko naša što mi moramo trpit u slobodnoj Hrvatskoj za koju je toliko krvi proliveno protiv ovih bradatih ..


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Post by Daï Djakman Faré on Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:47 pm

koji mrak u ostalim komentarima, ta hajlajtovana 3 su potpuno reprezentativna.


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Post by Agdw Hmlkh on Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:08 pm

Vatican scrambles after pope appears to deny existence of hell

The Vatican has scrambled to clarify comments made by Pope Francis to a well-known Italian journalist that appeared to deny the existence of hell.

The Holy See issued a terse statement saying a lengthy article published in La Repubblica on Wednesday by Eugenio Scalfari, 93, the newspaper’s founder, was “the fruit of his reconstruction” and not “a faithful transcription of the Holy Father’s words”.

While the Vatican conceded that Scalfari, an atheist who struck up a friendship with Francis in 2013, had held a private meeting with the pontiff before the Easter weekend, it said an interview had not been granted.

During the meeting Scalfari asked the pope where “bad souls” go, to which he was quoted as responding: “They are not punished. Those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and take their place among the ranks of those who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot be forgiven disappear. A hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of sinning souls exists.”

The Vatican said the “literal words pronounced by the pope are not quoted” and that “no quotation of the article should be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father”.

Scalfari is said to pride himself on not taking notes or recording high-profile interviews. But this is not the first time he has been accused of misrepresenting the pope: in 2014 he was rebuked by the Vatican for an article saying Francis had abolished sin.

The friendship has been criticised in the past, with Scalfari once saying that it was the pope who asked for the meetings as he liked to “exchange ideas and sentiments with non-believers”.

The Catholic church’s teachings affirm the existence of hell and its eternity, saying “the chief punishment of hell is eternal separation of God”.

Pope Benedict XVI said in 2007 that hell “really exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much anymore”, while in 1999 Pope John Paul II announced that hell was “the ultimate consequence of sin itself … rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy”.


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The controversy came as Pope Francis washed the feet of 12 prisoners at Rome’s Regina Coeli prison on Holy Thursday. Among the inmates were two Muslims, an Orthodox Christian and a Buddhist. He told them: “Everyone has the opportunity to change life and one cannot judge.”

It was the fourth time since becoming pope that he held mass in an Italian prison. “I am a sinner like you but today I represent Jesus … God never abandons us, never tires of forgiving us,” he added.


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Post by William Murderface on Sat May 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Finally, I cannot but speak of the serious risks associated with the invasion, at high levels of culture and education in both universities and in schools, of positions of libertarian individualism. A common feature of this fallacious paradigm is that it minimizes the common good, that is, “living well”, a “good life” in the community framework, and exalts the selfish ideal that deceptively proposes a “beautiful life”. If individualism affirms that it is only the individual who gives value to things and interpersonal relationships, and so it is only the individual who decides what is good and what is bad, then libertarianism, today in fashion, preaches that to establish freedom and individual responsibility, it is necessary to resort to the idea of “self-causation”. Thus libertarian individualism denies the validity of the common good because on the one hand it supposes that the very idea of “common” implies the constriction of at least some individuals, and the other that the notion of “good” deprives freedom of its essence.
https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2017/04/28/170428h.html



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Post by William Murderface on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:25 pm

http://www.politika.rs/scc/clanak/407936/Papa-smenjuje-kardinala-Josipa-Bozanica

Даље се наводи да није тајна да папа Фрањо није био задовољан начином на који се води Црква у Хрватској, пре свега због конзервативних бискупа који су својим десничарењем, а нажалост и подилажењем пораженим идеологијама, често компромитирали Цркву.


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Post by KinderLad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:46 pm

Ili neka nađu novinare koji znaju srpski ili neka (protiv čega nemam ništa protiv) prenose test u originalu. Ne samo Politika, nego i svi ostali. Prebacuju iz ijekavskog u ekavski, sve ostalo ostave, izgleda ko neki izmišljeni jezik. 

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Post by otto katz on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:50 pm

Sad kad shvati da u Cro ne može naći crvenog popa, pa im dovede kakvog Urugvajca.


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Post by KinderLad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:56 pm

Pa ne bukvalno, nervira me to što je stav, i ovde i tamo - nisu to isti jezici. I onda krene prevođenje. I onda ne umeju da prevedu. Lakrdija.
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Post by otto katz on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:01 pm

KinderLad wrote:Ili neka nađu novinare koji znaju srpski ili neka (protiv čega nemam ništa protiv) prenose test u originalu. Ne samo Politika, nego i svi ostali. Prebacuju iz ijekavskog u ekavski, sve ostalo ostave, izgleda ko neki izmišljeni jezik. 

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Sad si me natjerao da pročitam i ništa nisam našao čudno. Šta je privuklo tvoju pozornost? :usvakomodnasčučiPaće:
Inače u cro medijima brižljivo kroatiziraju srpske izjave da im ne daj bog ne promakne koji utisak ili tačka.




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Post by Gargantua on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:07 pm

kompromitirali > kompromitovali
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Post by KinderLad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:10 pm

otto katz wrote:
KinderLad wrote:Ili neka nađu novinare koji znaju srpski ili neka (protiv čega nemam ništa protiv) prenose test u originalu. Ne samo Politika, nego i svi ostali. Prebacuju iz ijekavskog u ekavski, sve ostalo ostave, izgleda ko neki izmišljeni jezik. 

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Sad si me natjerao da pročitam i ništa nisam našao čudno. Šta je privuklo tvoju pozornost? :usvakomodnasčučiPaće:
Inače u cro medijima brižljivo kroatiziraju srpske izjave da im ne daj bog ne promakne koji utisak ili tačka.



promakne im, vrlo retko ali video sam "doprinijeti" ili da+prezent, a mislim da sam jednom pronašao i lubenicu, ali jako davno. Ređe nego u srpskim, gde je smešan "prevod" skoro svakodnevna pojava, ali promakne ponekad. Ali nije to prenošenje vesti ono što me nervira, nego citiranje. Ide citat recimo nekog hrv političara i ja to čitam i potpuno mi je nestvarno, pošto znam kako čovek govori kad ga pročitam na ekavici i sa "nedeljama" i u "direktnom prenosu". Ili obrnuto. Zato pto to što čuješ na bazičnom nivou ne doživljavaš kao strani jezik, nego kao drugi dijalekat svog. Prosto veze koje se stvaraju u mozgu nisu kao kad neko sluša engleski ili neki drugi jezik, pa taman ga znao fantastično dobro.


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Gargantua wrote:kompromitirali > kompromitovali

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Post by otto katz on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:18 pm

Ček šta je sad problem s lubenicom? Ili si pronašao baš pravu lubenicu? Ali to onda više nije jezičko pitanje, nego botaničko ili nutricionističko.

U posljednjih godinu dana je hrvatski jezički prostor preplavio "srbizam" uhljeb. Kapiram da je to ok, jer ima negativnu konotaciju.




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Post by William Murderface on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:22 pm

 

Pravi Hrvati se ukrušuju!


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Post by KinderLad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:28 pm

otto katz wrote:Ček šta je sad problem s lubenicom? Ili si pronašao baš pravu lubenicu? Ali to onda više nije jezičko pitanje, nego botaničko ili nutricionističko.

U posljednjih godinu dana je hrvatski jezički prostor preplavio "srbizam" uhljeb. Kapiram da je to ok, jer ima negativnu konotaciju.



au greška, to je samo u Dalmaciji da je dinja za lubenicu  

Ne znam, naleteo sam tu i tamo na srbizme, ali defo mnogo mnogo ređe. 

Ne, ok, posle Tudjmana je divljanje prestalo u dobroj meri, šta je od novogovora ostalo ostalo je, sve drugo se vratilo u...normalu 
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Post by otto katz on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:33 pm

Ono gdje je Tuđmanova rekroatizacija hrvatskog potpuno provedena je jezik administracije, prava, državne uprave, vojske i udžbenika. Potpuno u skladu s idejom sakrosanktnosti države koja govori jezikom nerazumljivim običnim smrtnicima.


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otto katz wrote:Ono gdje je Tuđmanova rekroatizacija hrvatskog potpuno provedena je jezik administracije, prava, državne uprave, vojske i udžbenika. Potpuno u skladu s idejom sakrosanktnosti države koja govori jezikom nerazumljivim običnim smrtnicima.

Pa dobro, s protokom vremena postaće razumljiviji i običnim smrtnicima.
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Post by otto katz on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:51 pm

Samo mi žao što se nije primio šport. Jebeni športaši nisu imali sluha. Nećemo, vele, da zvučimo kao lakrdijaši. 

Asociralo me na to kako su burzovne i slične špekulacije, ali je filozofska spekulacija. Jer filozofija je čista, ne trpi kvačica.


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Post by KinderLad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:58 pm

To sa spekulacijom, ubi me ako i u Srbiji postoji 10% ljudi koji bi se mogli zakleti je li š ili s
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Post by bela maca on Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:18 pm

Ja u kući imam Hrvata koji već 6 godina živi u Srbiji, pored njega sad više ništa ne znam, ni da li se kod nas kaže kafa ili kava a kamoli nešto kompliciranije lol. Inače auto korekt je pokušao da me ispravi i napiše komplikovanije al se nisam dala.


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Post by darling on Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:35 pm

otocani i stari splicani kazu kafa
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Post by Filipenko on Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:53 pm

darling wrote:otocani i stari splicani kazu kafa


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Post by darling on Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:56 pm

u dalmatinskog zagori se kaze kava, bez obzira na to da li srb il kroat.
srbi i hrvati u hrvatskoj govore istim jezikom.
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Post by Ointagru Unartan on Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm

KinderLad wrote:To sa spekulacijom, ubi me ako i u Srbiji postoji 10% ljudi koji bi se mogli zakleti je li š ili s

Nekada je bilo š, sada su obe varijante u upotrebi.


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