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Post by Gargantua on Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:10 pm

U optužnici ima formalnih krivičnih dela, naravno, neprijavljivanje, nešto oko prelazaka granice itd, interesantan mi je samo deo za mreže.

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Post by Zuper on Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:14 pm

Uzasi promiskiuteta.

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Post by Quincy Endicott on Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:47 pm

“On April 20, 2018, school children around the country in public and private schools will be signed out and walk out at 11:00 am Colorado time, and march to mayors’ offices, governors’ offices, the White House, local NRA offices, Mar-a-Lago, campaign offices, etc. Enough is enough. And saying “enough is enough” is getting old. Not one more student should die by gun violence."


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Post by xie saike on Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:49 pm

studenti i djaci bolje da spreme vise novaca za politicare plave i crvene, od iznosa koje ce im usuti u bulje i dzepove nra.


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Post by beatakeshi on Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:56 pm

Što čekaju 2 meseca?
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Post by Quincy Endicott on Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:10 pm

zato što je plan, ako sam dobro shvatio, da bojkotuju nastavu dok se ne usvoje zahtevi


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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:21 pm

A Message From the Club No One Wants to Join

GLOUCESTER, Mass. — My sister Wendy died by suicide with a gun and my son, Galen, was killed in a school shooting. Lately, I’ve been working with fellow survivors to pass sensible gun laws, volunteering for Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety. We survivors have had children, spouses and relatives shot and killed by strangers, partners, or by their own hand.

Some of us have been shot as well. Holes in bodies presenting as mounds and stripes of scar tissue. Holes in hearts. Scar tissue all over. We are a diverse group, from the suburbs and the city. Many of us belong to other survivor groups. There are quite a few in the Boston area to chose from. The only criterion for membership is, well, you know. We joke that it is a club no one wants to join, but it gains a million members a year — 35,000 gun deaths, 100,000 wounds, the hundreds of thousands of family members, friends, neighbors and loved ones whose lives have been turned upside down by a gun.

On Thursday, we went to the State House in Boston. Demonstrations of one kind or another are frequent, but this one was about a gun bill. Images of the school shooting on Wednesday in Florida, in which 17 people were killed, still burned in everyone’s mind, and the local media were out in force.

We were there with other advocacy groups to support legislation that would temporarily restrict access to guns by people who pose a danger to themselves or others. We believe such a law will save lives, and our intent was to rev up the noise machine — to make sure that lawmakers know about the bill and its importance. The hall was swarming with brightly lettered shirts and buttons, even a few handmade posters.

The reporters saw our “survivor” T-shirts and asked if we’d mind saying a few words. We were happy to do so. That’s why we were there.
But the words we truly want to say about the obscenity of gun violence, and the cowardice and cynicism of politicians, and the misplaced pity of the American public, their self-absorbed refusal to put their clickers down, get off their couches and — it all turns into a rant so quickly. Or tears. We need discipline to stay on message.

Reporters asked me that day — they keep asking me — about how it feels. How does it feel, after all I’ve been through, to be standing there the day after all those people were killed in Florida? The blinding camera light goes on, and I’m back in the interrogation chair. How it feels is that I’d like to plant a Boston cream pie in your face for asking such an inane question. How does it feel? Why would anyone need to know that? It feels awful, of course. Not because I “know what they’re going through.” How could anyone truly know what other people are going through when they hear their teenager is dead?

It feels terrible, is one answer. Because I understand from my own experience that when you suffer a loss like this, it feels like this: Not only has my loved one died, I have died as well. My former life, the life I would have lived with that now-dead loved one, exists no more. All the years we’ll spend grieving for our loved ones, we’ll also be grieving for our own lives — our old lives. Because we don’t know we’re grieving for ourselves as well as our loved ones, we can’t get to the source of our grief, and it comes to seem bottomless, as if the world were made of grief. But somehow we survive. It’s amazing how many of us survive. It’s amazing that survival is the rule rather than the exception.

I told the reporter: “It feels like it did the last time, and the hundreds of times before that. My son was killed 25 years ago. It doesn’t seem possible that this could keep happening.”
“How could this keep happening?” the reporter asked.
“It’s too easy to get guns,” I said. “It’s too easy for disturbed juveniles with still-developing brains to get guns. It’s too easy for mentally ill people to get guns.”
We were already too deep in the weeds. The camera light snapped off; the reporters moved on.

But the interview continues in my imagination. I have questions for the reporter. Do you think that what you are doing will stop what’s happening with guns in this country? Why are you so curious about my squishy emotional insides when they are clearly not part of the situation you are supposedly reporting? Surely you’re aware of the iconography of televised mass shooting reports. The fleeing victims, the hugging weepers, the shrouded corpses, the departing ambulance. There’s a form to it now. It’s drama. It’s entertainment. How does it feel to keep reporting mass shootings as you do?

When gun violence becomes commodified as content by the media, we consume it rather than experience it. As a nation, we’re dead to it now. Despite our momentary hysteria, we’ve pretty much compartmentalized gun death, random mass shootings in particular. Consequently, we live in a country that seems to agree that 33,000 gun deaths a year is an acceptable price to pay for our unique, constitutionally guaranteed access to firearms.

I do not believe this can be true. But how do I pierce America’s complacent hide? Polls tell us that than 90 percent of people favor universal background checks, but a much smaller percentage actually do anything — at the ballot box or anywhere else — to make background checks a reality. How do we break through to the goodness in people? How do we get the attention of that vast middle?
There we were, pushing for another law that will save a few families from enduring what our families have endured. There are models that work; Massachusetts has some of the most stringent gun laws in the country. It also has the lowest gun death rate in America. There are dozens of ways to reduce gun violence, but the country as a whole seems to lack the will to do any of them. We lack the will to elect people who understand that sensible gun laws will save lives.

I’ve been at this for 25 years, and frankly I’m fed up with carefully reasoned essays, with weeping in front of cameras. I’m fed up with vigils, candles and moments of silence, and I think America is, too.

Perhaps my next sound bite should be a snarl. I know of a survivor who has a crime-scene photograph of her daughter’s bullet-riddled corpse. When she speaks with politicians about gun laws, she shows them the photograph. I have a similar photograph of my son. Perhaps the time has come to use it.

Desensitized by repeated trauma? You bet!

In 1955, after the white men who tortured and killed 14-year-old Emmett Till were acquitted, the novelist Chester Himes said, “The real horror comes when your dead brain must face the fact that we as a nation don’t want it to stop.”

If we wanted it to stop, Himes said, we’d do something about it.

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Post by Zuper on Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:47 pm



 

Ima i bolji deo kada mu se smeje voditelj u studiju u SAD kada prica kako ceprka po kantama za djubre...
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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:08 am

An armed officer assigned to the Florida school where a gunman killed 17 people last week stood outside the building during the shooting and did not intervene, the local sheriff says.
Deputy Scot Peterson has resigned after being suspended, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said.
"I am devastated. Sick to my stomach. He never went in," Sheriff Israel said.




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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:14 am

e al lepo je reko Tranp, coach je taj koji će to da uradi, neće neki cvikeraš matematičar.

a može i bez naoružavanja, samo nek pitaju Megan McArdle:

I’d also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly, because even a guy with a very powerful weapon can be brought down by 8-12 unarmed bodies piling on him at once.
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Post by паће on Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:24 am

Још да науче да се искобељају из скамије за мање времена него што њему траје да савије кажипрст, ихај.

Шта они замишљају, да је сваки клинац са наоружањем неиживљени говорник па ће прво да им држи говор, злокобно се смеје и сеири пре него што крене да решета? Они стварно верују тим својим филмовима.


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Post by Filipenko on Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:36 am

Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:

I’d also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly, because even a guy with a very powerful weapon can be brought down by 8-12 unarmed bodies piling on him at once.




Eh da mi je videti njega kako jurisa na kalasnjikov...
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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:39 am

Nju. Krhka, lepuškasta libertarijanka, očito veliki self defence stručnjak. Ona je bukvalno primenila libertarijansku teoriju na odbranu od gunmana. Ne čekaj državu da ti pomogne već, kao pravi preduzetnik, shvati cev AR-15 okrenutu ka tebi ne kao problem već kao izazov.
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Post by Ointagru Unartan on Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:26 am

Blind Lime Pie wrote:Nju. Krhka, lepuškasta libertarijanka, očito veliki self defence stručnjak. Ona je bukvalno primenila libertarijansku teoriju na odbranu od gunmana. Ne čekaj državu da ti pomogne već, kao pravi preduzetnik, shvati cev AR-15 okrenutu ka tebi ne kao problem već kao izazov.

U ovom slucaju je u pravu. Posledice po drustvo bi svekupno bile pozitivne kada bi libertarijanci poceli da primenjuju njen savet i jurisaju na metke.


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Post by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov on Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Risen vs. Greenwald o Rašagejtu, zabavno je:

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Post by William Murderface on Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:57 pm

Russiagate Revisited


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Post by MNE on Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:26 pm

Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wrote:Risen vs. Greenwald o Rašagejtu, zabavno je:

Sve u vezi Rašagejta je zabavno.
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Post by Gargantua on Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:57 pm

Pat Dennis‏ @patdennis  47 минпре 47 минута

NEW: Can confirm that the politicians named in the new Manafort Indictment are (likely) Alfred Gusenbauer, Austria's former chancellor, and Romano Prodi, Italy's former prime minister.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-manafort-lobbying-firm-foreign-agent-20170428-story.html

Throughout 2013, the firm also set up "educational events" and meetings that featured Ukrainian government officials and other experts on Ukraine and the EU. It is not clear from the documents whether Mercury's experts were also paid. Among the firm's listed experts were Alfred Gusenbauer, Austria's former chancellor, and Romano Prodi, Italy's former prime minister. The firm said it also arranged meetings with legislators and congressional staffers as well as think tanks and the media.

Vođin veliki prijatelj Guzenbauer...
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Post by Filipenko on Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:18 am

Da li je realno da oni nemaju nikoga da pronadju i optuze pa ce da idu po prljavim politickim lesinarima koji pruzaju konsultantske prostitusluge?

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Post by disident on Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:41 am

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Do it. Arm all the teachers. Arm a contingent of generally left-leaning, constantly shit-on, underpaid, stressed, populace all armed all the time just as public sector unions are set to be gutted by the Supreme Court. I FUCKING DARE YOU.


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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:07 am

Veoma informativan tekst, prilog debati o zabrani AR-15 pisan sa tačke gledišta urgentne medicinske nege. tl dr verzija: AR-15 ima takve balističke osobine da ne ranjava, već ubija.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/
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Post by bela maca on Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:27 am

svim učiteljima treba dati mentalnu bolest


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