Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom

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Re: Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom

Post by bruno sulak on Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:23 am

mislim eu stoji na stanovistu da je to unutrasnje pitanje svake drzave ALI...


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Post by Kondo on Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:30 am

moguce. mada mislim da brisel ovo uzima vrlo licno u ovom trenutku, posto je simbolicki rastakanje spanije rastakanje EU. ode pike, ode ćavi alonso, odoše svi - a nema teorije da ova ekipa može da se nosi sa tom etatizovanom regionalizacijom. to je tektonski proces. pogotovo što je ovakva vrsta radikalizovanog separatizma zapravo koliko šamar madridu na neki način još više briselu, jer je EU politički pravljena upravo za to da granice postanu nebitne i da se svi vidovi političkog identiteta bespogovorno ostvaruju.

zato mislim da junkers ispod stola šutira cevanice i gazi štiklom pućove negovane prstiće...


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Re: Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom

Post by Kinder Lad on Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:45 am

Jeste, ali to je ono - mnogo kasne sa tom "nebitnoscu" granica. Jer, onog momenta kad 
Evrozona ima jedinstvenu fiskalnu politiku de facto nestaje razlog za otcepljenje bilo koga u Evrozoni ako nigde drugde. Ali to nije prevashodno pitanje ni za Madrid ni za Kataloniju.


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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:00 pm

bice fora kada Rahoj aktivira clan 155 ali sa odlozenim dejstvom
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Post by Kondo on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:05 pm

verovatno da bi za rahoja bilo bolje da ga tiho primenjuje a da ga ne aktivira. ovaj jucerasnji momenat je mahanje crvenom krpom ispred madrida u nameri da se isprovocira odmazda.


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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:11 pm

Verovatno ali španski mediji nagoveštavaju nekakav ultimatum od 48h za povlačenje deklaracije, or else.
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Post by Ointagru Unartan on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:21 pm

Posto ce i ovakva tunjava polu-deklaracija nezavisnosti izazvati odlucnu reakciju Madrida, mogli su Katalonci to malo upecatljivije odigrati, sa vise osecaja za dekorum: direktno proglasenje nezavisnosti, Pudjemonov govor kratak i jebitacan, tako da ga buduca pokolenja znaju napamet i citiraju kao primer patriotskog jebitacnog govora, svecano polaganje zakletve novoj drzavi od strane parlamentaraca, skidanje spanskih zastava sa zgrada drzavnih institucija, vatromet, koncert lokalne cece na gradskom trgu, volovi na raznju, itd.


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Re: Kataloniji u čast - mogući referendoom

Post by Guest on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:22 pm

Uostalom evo odgovora, nema nikakvog ultimatuma, postavljeno je jasno pitanje i ako odgovor bude "da" primena člana 155 počinje odmah.

Sad se pitam da li će "tuc muc Franko pravo na samoopredeljenje bla" biti shvaćeno kao "ne" ili kao "da".


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Post by Kinder Lad on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:27 pm

Ok, nije bas toliko glup


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Post by Gargantua on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:32 pm

jel oće puć u tvorza?


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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:33 pm

ko, Rahoj ili Pućdemon?

Ovo što Španija radi je onako malo brinkmanship, izgleda da računaju sa time da će se Pućdemon ponovo utronjati.

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Post by Kondo on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:35 pm

vaso pogodijo



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Post by Kinder Lad on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:37 pm

Blind Lime Pie wrote:ko, Rahoj ili Pućdemon?

Ovo što Španija radi je onako malo brinkmanship, izgleda da računaju sa time da će se Pućdemon ponovo utronjati.


Pa ok je u diplomatiji traziti razjasnjenje


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Post by Kondo on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:37 pm

azem puć


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Post by Mr.Pink on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:40 pm

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Post by Gargantua on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:40 pm

Kondo wrote:vaso pogodijo



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Catalan govt spox: If Rajoy govt invokes #Artículo155, we will declare the "Republic of #Catalonia". http://atres.red/vketi1  #Spain
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Post by Kinder Lad on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:41 pm

Pa zar je nisu vec proglasili?


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Post by Gargantua on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:42 pm

Catalan News‏ @catalannews  8 мин
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 #UPDATE Enforcing a suspension of Catalan self-government requires prior official request by Spanish govt, which Rajoy has just announced


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Post by Gargantua on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:43 pm

Kinder Lad wrote:Pa zar je nisu vec proglasili?

to je valjda ono pitanje tumačenja, "nismo još" - "jeste, jeste"
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Post by Gargantua on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:45 pm

evo i berlina


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FM @sigmargabriel on #Catalonia: Unilateral declaration of independence would be irresponsible. Solution can only be found through talks.


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Post by Kinder Lad on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:46 pm

E vidis, onda oni ne smatraju da su vec proglasili ("would be").


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Post by Gargantua on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:54 pm

dok su italijani odbili da priznaju proglašenje


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Post by Mr.Pink on Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:57 pm

ja sam video samo tvit nekog ministra koji je na istoj poziciji kao i berlin. to bi bilo neodgovorno, trt-mrt.


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