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Post by Quincy Endicott on Mon May 14, 2018 6:52 pm

ali zapravo...

Hamas is paying $1000 to every Palestinian who tries to breach the #Gaza border with #Israel and murder Israelis.

The media wants you to think the #GreatReturnMarch is a human rights protest and that those people are innocent, but it is literally state sponsored terrorism.



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Post by Filipenko on Mon May 14, 2018 7:11 pm

Lukavi mali satnici. Sreca da Izrael ima cetnika Bibija.
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Post by Летећи Полип on Mon May 14, 2018 10:58 pm

In a rare moment of agreement with President Trump, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Monday praised the president for moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

“In a long overdue move, we have moved our embassy to Jerusalem. Every nation should have the right to choose its capital,” Schumer said in a statement. “I sponsored legislation to do this two decades ago, and I applaud President Trump for doing it.”
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Post by Летећи Полип on Mon May 14, 2018 11:00 pm

Gargantua wrote:Ludi talibani



Jes bakuta, al kako bi ja nju rasturo.
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Post by bruno sulak on Tue May 15, 2018 12:14 am

iracki izbori

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/world/middleeast/iraq-election-moktada-al-sadr.html?emc=edit_na_20180514&nl=breaking-news&nlid=60575147ing-news&ref=cta


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Post by Gargantua on Tue May 15, 2018 3:32 pm

Turska proteruje izraelskog ambasadora.
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Post by bruno sulak on Tue May 15, 2018 8:49 pm

i povukla je svoje iz vasingtona i tel aviva.


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Post by MNE on Tue May 15, 2018 9:39 pm

Kurdistan u najavi.
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Post by KinderLad on Tue May 15, 2018 9:54 pm

MNE wrote:Kurdistan u najavi.

Nadajmo se. 

Mislim, spandjao se sa nama, a to ti je wild card za propast.
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Post by Filipenko on Tue May 15, 2018 10:07 pm

KinderLad wrote:
MNE wrote:Kurdistan u najavi.

Nadajmo se. 

Mislim, spandjao se sa nama, a to ti je wild card za propast.


Aaaaa, zato ti zagovaraš naš ulazak u EU i Nato, mi zapravo želimo isto 
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Post by KinderLad on Tue May 15, 2018 10:10 pm

Pa pazi, primili su Hrvate i vec su na pola puta, jos nas i to je to
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Post by Gargantua on Thu May 17, 2018 7:43 pm

Što Rusi i Iranci puštaju buve da je MbS možda ucmekan u nekom dvorskom obračunu, jerbo se dugo nije pojavljivao u javnosti?


https://sputniknews.com/amp/world/201805171064543844-saudi-prince-health-concerns/?__twitter_impression=true

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/16/561951/Saudi-Arabia-Mohammed-bin-Salman-Palestine-Kushner
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Post by Летећи Полип on Sat May 19, 2018 12:20 pm



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Post by Gargantua on Sun May 20, 2018 2:12 pm

Europe, China, Russia discussing new deal for Iran: newspaper
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BERLIN (Reuters) - Diplomats from Europe, China and Russia are discussing a new accord to offer Iran financial aid to curb its ballistic missile development and meddling in the region, in the hope of salvaging its 2015 nuclear deal, a German newspaper reported on Sunday.

The officials will meet in Vienna in the coming week under the leadership of senior European Union diplomat Helga Schmid to discuss next steps after the May 8 decision by U.S. President Donald Trump to pull out of a 2015 nuclear accord with Iran, the Welt am Sonntag newspaper said, citing senior EU sources.
Germany, France, Britain, Russia and China would participate in the meeting, but the United States would not, it said. It was not immediately clear if Iran - which has resisted calls to curb its ballistic missile program in the past - would take part.

Under the 2015 deal, Iran agreed to curb its nuclear program in return for the lifting of most Western sanctions. One of the main complaints of the Trump administration was that the accord did not cover Iran’s missile program or its support for armed groups in the Middle East which the West considers terrorists.
Concluding a new agreement that would maintain the nuclear provisions and curb ballistic missile development efforts and Tehran’s activities in the region could help convince Trump to lift sanctions against Iran, the paper said.

“We have to get away from the name ‘Vienna nuclear agreement’ and add in a few additional elements. Only that will convince President Trump to agree and lift sanctions again,” the paper quoted a senior EU diplomat as saying.


No immediate comment was available from the German foreign ministry.

The EU’s energy chief sought to reassure Iran on Saturday that the 28-member bloc remained committed to salvaging the nuclear deal, and strengthening trade with Tehran.

Officials from the EU, Germany and other countries that remain committed to the deal have said it would disastrous if EU efforts fail to preserve it.

Iran has struggled to achieve financial benefits from the deal, partly because remaining unilateral U.S. sanctions over its missile program deterred major Western investors from doing business with Tehran.
The officials are looking for a new approach given an understanding that it would be difficult for European firms to work around new U.S. sanctions, the newspaper reported.

It said the new deal could include billions of dollars of financial aid for Iran, in line with an EU deal that provided billions in aid to Turkey for taking in millions of migrants and closing its borders, which helped end a 2015 migrant crisis.

Iran and European powers have made a good start in talks over how to salvage the 2015 deal but much depends on what happens in the next few weeks, Foreign Minister Mohammed Javad Zarif said last week.
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Post by Gargantua on Mon May 21, 2018 4:46 pm

Pompeo Demands Iran Withdraw Forces From Syria, End Support for Hezbollah and Hamas

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Mike Pompeo demanded Iran withdraw its forces from Syria and end its support for Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad in his first major address as the top U.S. diplomat on Monday.

"Today, we ask the Iranian people - is this what you want your country to be known for? The United States believes you deserve better," Pompeo said.

Pompeo said that the U.S. is prepared to re-establish relations with the regime and "happily" support it when they see "tangible and sustained shifts" in Iranian policy.


The U.S. expects "major changes" in any new deal – with stipulations listed to ensure that "Iran never acquires a nuclear bomb."

Pompeo's list of demands – which he admits is "pretty long" with "very basic requirements," includes demanding that "Iran's nuclear aspirations not be separated from the overall security picture"; that Iran must declare all past nuclear programs; must stop "stop enrichment and never pursue plutonium reprocessing"; and "provide unqualified access to all sites through the entire country.


Regarding the Middle East, the U.S.'s list includes releasing "all U.S. Citizens as well as citizens of our partners and allies"; the end of "support to Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad"; and that "Iran must end its threatening behavior against neighbors, including threats to destroy Israel and attacks on Saudi Arabia."

"America's commitment to the strategy President Trump put down last year remains, and it will now be executed outside of the JCPOA. We will insure Iran has no path to a nuclear weapon, not now, not ever," Pompeo added. "We will apply unprecedented financial pressure on the Iranian regime. New sanctions are coming."


The secretary of state warned that "the regime will have no doubts about our seriousness. This is just the beginning. It will be painful if the regime doesn't change its course. It will be the strongest sanctions in history. Iran will be battling to keep its economy alive."

Pompeo added that "we will ensure freedom of navigation in the waters of the region. Iran will never again have carte blanch to dominate the Middle East. We will also advocate tirelessly to the Iranian people. The regime must improve how it treats its citizens."

"Here in the West, President Rohani and Foreign Minister Zarif are often treated differently. 'If only they could control, things would be great.' Yet they are your elected leaders. Are they not the most responsible for your economic struggles?" Pompeo continued.

He added that protests in Iran in recent months "show that the Iranian people are deeply frustrated." Pompeo said that, due to government mismanagement of economic resources, "People are angry at the regime that keeps for itself what it steals from the people."

"The leadership of the country is running scared," he said.

Pompeo added that the U.S. would continue with their plan to impose sanctions on Iran regardless of potential economic conflict with EU allies, some who hope to keep the JCPOA agreement in place.

"Our reimposition of sanctions will post financial and economic challenges to some of our friends," Pompeo said. "They may decide to keep their old nuclear deal going with Tehran. That is their decision to make, but they know where we stand."

"America's commitment to the strategy President Trump put down last year remains, and it will now be executed outside of the JCPOA. We will insure Iran has no path to a nuclear weapon, not now, not ever," Pompeo said.

Pompeo presented his approach during a speech Monday at the conservative Heritage Foundation. The speech comes a week after Trump announced he was pulling out of the deal struck by President Barack Obama, Iran and world powers. Europeans allies had pleaded with Trump not to scuttle that deal.
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Post by Filipenko on Mon May 21, 2018 5:24 pm

Moze, kada Amerikanci povuku trupe sa Bliskog Istoka i prestanu da podrzavaju Izrael.


















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Post by Gargantua on Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 pm

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1. Whatever Pompeo’s speech says today, Trump team has opted for an Iran regime change strategy. if there’s one thing we’ve learned from the Middle East it’s that even if you succeed at regime change what comes next is anybody’s guess & probably not good

2. Pompeo will say today that the plan is to get Iran back to the table for a better deal. RIDICULOUS. It will be years before Iran negotiates anything with the US after the lessons of the JCPOA, which is that US will not keep its word.

3. Bolton & company will push for regime change arguing it is the only way to change Iran’s behavior. There have been protests in recent months & they’ll argue the regime is showing cracks. Pressure for pressure’s sake will become the default strategy

4. I’m deeply skeptical the regime is on the verge of collapse. The Islamic Republic has proven quite adept at suppressing domestic opponents. They know a little something about revolutions. But lets assume regime change succeeds. What happens then?

5. My money is on the Egypt model. The IRGC - the country’s most powerful actor - simply takes over for the clerical regime. Just the way Sisi ultimately took over Egypt’s revolution.

6. God forbid we get the Syria model. A massive civil war and huge security vacuum wedged between Iraq & Afghanistan. This would be a bonanza for extremist groups & a human catastrophe

7. Maybe it’s the Iraq model. Regime change via external military action as Iran nears a nuclear weapon. A terrible & costly option for the US dealing with a country with 3 times the population of Iraq

8. Or maybe just maybe we get transition to a functioning liberal democracy. But the best way to accomplish that would have been to contain Iran while slowly empowering more pragmatic/moderate elements in the system & having a managed transition

9. Instead we just completely undercut the pragmatists and reformists by walking away from the JCPOA

10. In terms of US policy objectives, The clearest benefit of major instability in Iran is that it would lead the regime to get distracted & move away from focusing on their regional agenda

11. But if Iran is a near-nuclear power when instability hits, that could have frightening  implications for Command & control of nuclear weapons & danger of loose nuclear material around the country

12. Bottom line: we had a total reasonable strategy for containing the challenges posed by Iran & leaving open possibility for engagement or even regime evolution. We’ve replaced it with a wing & a prayer strategy that even if successful could be catastrophic
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Post by William Murderface on Mon May 21, 2018 5:58 pm

Ovi ludaci se neće smiriti dok ne izazovu WW III.


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Post by Zuper on Mon May 21, 2018 6:27 pm

Mislim da im za sada savsim dobro ide i bez rata.
Nego ispada da je dogovor sa Iranom 2015 zamisljen kao deo projekta smene rezima u Teheranu.
I sada napadaju Trampa sto nece da se sluzi njihovom taktikom u procesu smene rezima vec hoce neku svoju taktiku.
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Post by KinderLad on Mon May 21, 2018 6:33 pm

Naravno da je regime change krajnji cilj. Ubedjen sam
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Post by Gargantua on Wed May 23, 2018 12:29 pm

ecce strategy


https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/21/the-united-states-finally-has-an-aggressive-plan-to-defang-iran-trump-pompeo/

The United States Finally Has an Aggressive Plan to Defang Iran

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has an impressive strategy to counter Tehran and break free from two decades of failed U.S. policy.
By Ray Takeyh, Mark Dubowitz


Ever since President Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal earlier this month, the commentariat has been aghast at the lack of a new plan. Critics said that the administration was all instinct and no insight, and that coercion without purpose was its only strategy. On Monday, in one of the most important speeches on Iran ever delivered by a secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, in his first major policy address since taking the role, put that criticism to rest as he laid out an aggressive plan for defanging the theocratic regime. The United States today has a strategy, one that is expansive in its ambitions, justified in its tactics, and judicious in its assessments of Iran.

Pompeo’s most impressive intellectual breakthrough was to transcend the paradigm that has guided Washington’s Iran policy for nearly two decades. For too long, a peculiar consensus has suggested that it is possible to isolate the nuclear issue from all other areas of contention and resolve it in a satisfactory manner. The subsidiary theme embedded in this logic is that despite the bluster of Iran’s rulers, it is governed by cautious men, who if offered sufficient incentives and soothing language would respond with pragmatism. No one embraced this notion more ardently than former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, who crafted an accord whose deficiencies are apparent to all but the most hardened partisans.

The lure of continuity and the need to be praised by polite society could have easily tied Pompeo to the Washington consensus. But instead, in his maiden speech as secretary of state, he identified the problem: a regime that is bent on extending its imperial frontiers, developing nuclear arms, and abusing its citizens. All of these issues are connected, as the guardians of the theocracy believe that their revolution succeeds only if it is relentlessly exported. This, after all, was said to be a revolution without borders. Nuclear arms are an indispensable instrument of Iran’s revisionist revolution. To negate Iran’s challenge, one has to have a comprehensive agenda. Pompeo outlined steps to deplete Iran’s treasury, bolster local alliances, and assist the Iranian people in their persistent quest to emancipate themselves from the clutches of the clerical tyranny.

The speech is likely to upset the arms controllers — a category of analysts who believe that all problems are mere technical disagreements and all solutions can be detected by the right physics formula. “Iran must stop uranium enrichment and never pursue plutonium reprocessing,” Pompeo said. Critics might say that this is an impractical diversion from a prudent course laid out in the Iran nuclear deal. In fact, the speech is a necessary correction of the deal’s radical departure from five decades of counterproliferation norms that have guided successive U.S. administrations.

In 1965, as then-President Lyndon B. Johnson became alarmed about the proliferation of nuclear arms, he commissioned his deputy secretary of defense, Roswell Gilpatric, to carefully study the problem. The ensuing Gilpatric commission’s report laid the foundation for arms control policy for decades to come. The United States was now committed to denying other nations dangerous nuclear technologies, such as the ability to enrich uranium and reprocess plutonium. Since then, those standards have at times attenuated, as the country looked the other way when a number of its allies, such as Japan, mastered those capabilities. But the United States did not grant all of its allies such dispensations — when the Shah of Iran wanted enrichment technologies, U.S. President Gerald Ford’s administration said no. In one of the strange ironies of history, Kerry offered the mullahs what former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger refused the shah. The Iran deal was indeed a landmark agreement, as it was the first time that the United States conceded an indigenous enrichment capability to an adversarial nation. It is this principle that Pompeo has now reclaimed. Iran, a country that only set out to enrich uranium for the purpose of developing a reliable nuclear arsenal, must be coerced into giving up those capabilities.

Those who discuss geopolitics and nuclear fusion often forget that the primary victims of the theocracy are Iranians.

Too often, Western policymakers look at the ongoing struggle for freedom in Iran as episodes of protest that inevitably die down. In one of the most memorable passages of the speech, Pompeo, quoting Trump, said, “We stand in total solidarity with the Iranian regime’s longest-suffering victims: its own people. The citizens of Iran have paid a heavy price for the violence and extremism of their leaders. The Iranian people long to reclaim their country’s proud history, its culture, its civilization, its cooperation with its neighbors.” Iran is not the sturdy, stable government that its enablers like to depict. It is a regime that has forfeited its legitimacy, is drowning in corruption, and rests its power on security organs that it fears will prove unreliable in a crunch.

The United States today has a robust Iran policy. A regime as dangerous as the Iranian one requires no less than a comprehensive strategy to counter it. This means exploiting all of its vulnerabilities, increasing the costs of its foreign adventures, draining its economy, and aiding our allies. Most importantly, the United States must find a way of connecting itself to domestic opposition that continuously haunts the mullahs. Washington should no longer settle for an arms control agreement that paves Iran’s path to a bomb but rather a restrictive accord that ends its nuclear aspirations. The United States should not implore its allies to share the Middle East with Iran, as former President Barack Obama did, but partner with them in defeating the clerical imperialists. And most importantly, the United States should never forget that its most indispensable ally is the Iranian people.

On Monday, Pompeo laid out an impressive strategy, which is sure to face criticism in the echo chamber. All arms control agreements create their own constituency, and the Iran nuclear deal has a powerful one in the form of those in the United States for whom this was the only Obama foreign-policy legacy that they could try to defend with a straight face. Some in the bureaucracy will resist this new path, and the administration lacks enough political appointees to police the system on behalf of the secretary. All of these are formidable obstacles that will try to nudge and pull the administration away from its contemplated course. The challenge for Pompeo now is to implement with precision what he has laid out with eloquence.


Ray Takeyh
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Mark Dubowitz is the chief executive officer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
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Post by bruno sulak on Wed May 23, 2018 12:32 pm

meni rezim u iranu deluje stabilnije od trampovog.


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